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PostPosted: Jul 15, 2006 8:10 am    Post subject: can a 400lb guy wakeboard? Reply with quote

a buddy of mine is about 6'8" 390lbs and he asked me if he could try and wakeboard...

its got me kind of nervous, will my tower hold up? will the rope snap? is it even possible to get him out of the water?

i told him he needs to rent a board cause nothing i have will work

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PostPosted: Jul 15, 2006 8:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

better title: "can a boat pull up a 400 pound person"

or

"Will my boat shatter into pieces if i try and pull up a 400 pound person?"

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PostPosted: Jul 15, 2006 8:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

but yea, theres a guy on the river where i live thats an easy 375 and he can go wake 2 wake so at some point, im sure he has to get up, and its behind a tige' 20v so... ya its possible
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PostPosted: Jul 15, 2006 8:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

my boats only got 170 hp Sad
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PostPosted: Jul 15, 2006 8:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Your buddy might be better off on one of those three person inner tubes. It seems anyone who is close to 400 lbs has some major mobility issues to begin with.
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PostPosted: Jul 15, 2006 8:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dip_Krew, that's pushing it Shocked but as long as he has a big enough board then it really shouldnt have a problem...but the board would have to be like 148 cm
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PostPosted: Jul 15, 2006 8:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

H20orSnowLetsGo wrote:
Your buddy might be better off on one of those three person inner tubes. It seems anyone who is close to 400 lbs has some major mobility issues to begin with.


tell that to my friend who i believe weighs 350lbs+, does crows, roll to reverts, 360s, grabs, etc.

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PostPosted: Jul 15, 2006 8:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

From a tower though? Don't most towers have a much smaller weight limit? I know the tower on our boat would never pull him up. But pulling from the ski eye might be better. If you know how to wakeboard, weight probably wouldn't be an issue, but if he's learning, no way I would risk pulling someone that big from a tower.

I wouldn't doubt he could do it though, as long as you have enough boat to pull him up.
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PostPosted: Jul 15, 2006 9:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

yeah probally better from the tow hook, my buddy is 250 and when he gets up it shakes the tower, makes me nervous.


and for a guy of that size, hes about as agile as an NFL linebacker.

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PostPosted: Jul 15, 2006 4:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

this is why hydroslide put out a board right?
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PostPosted: Jul 15, 2006 5:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jumalian, how much does Buffalo weigh? He's a damn big guy IIRC.
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PostPosted: Jul 15, 2006 6:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hmm i would think a regular wakeboat with tower can easily pull him up,people pull up dbls and triple riders sometimes for fun with no problems..

besides 6'8 is tall so he might be built like a linemen and soemwhat athletic... Rolling Eyes

JB is not the norm but the excpetion ,i think a 400lb guy would have issues with wakeboarding progression and what not but im sure he can learn to get up and ride

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PostPosted: Jul 15, 2006 8:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Jul 15, 2006 9:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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From a tower though? Don't most towers have a much smaller weight limit? I know the tower on our boat would never pull him up. But pulling from the ski eye might be better. If you know how to wakeboard, weight probably wouldn't be an issue, but if he's learning, no way I would risk pulling someone that big from a tower.

I wouldn't doubt he could do it though, as long as you have enough boat to pull him up.


yes, from a tower.

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PostPosted: Jul 15, 2006 9:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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jumalian, how much does Buffalo weigh? He's a damn big guy IIRC.


i think he's over 350lbs. that's who i'm talkin' about.

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PostPosted: Jul 15, 2006 9:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jumalian wrote:
H20orSnowLetsGo wrote:
Your buddy might be better off on one of those three person inner tubes. It seems anyone who is close to 400 lbs has some major mobility issues to begin with.


tell that to my friend who i believe weighs 350lbs+, does crows, roll to reverts, 360s, grabs, etc.


Wow! He must be a bit more on the athletic side for a big guy then.
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PostPosted: Jul 15, 2006 11:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

He's good enough that I know about him here in Austin and I've never met him. He's been in the mags a couple of times (back when I subscribed to the mags).
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PostPosted: Jul 16, 2006 9:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

well considering that ive pulled a couple of guys behind my x2 doing doubles and the tower didnt fly off... id say he would be fine trying it
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PostPosted: Jul 16, 2006 10:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just tow him from the ski pylon. Newb's don't benifit that much from towers anyways.
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PostPosted: Jul 16, 2006 6:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Just tow him from the ski pylon. Newb's don't benifit that much from towers anyways.


Ah yes, reason comes to the board. But hey, if you guys want to pull hefty guys from your towers, I guess it's okay. I mean, if you spend 50 grand for a wakeboard boat, you won't have a problem replacing that tower and getting the holes in your boat patched up after he rips it out.

Now, a guy that knows how to wakeboard, I'm sure it would be okay, but for someone learning how to wakeboard? Just let me know, I can get some towers for you after you break yours.
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PostPosted: Jul 17, 2006 5:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

With the right boat, towing someone 390 lbs. should be no problem. However, if your boat is only 170hp, it will probably be hard to pull him out of the water. I agree that I'd rather hook him to my tow hooks or the ski pylon, just to be on the safe side. If it was a brand new boat with a factory installed tower, I'd say go for it.
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PostPosted: Jul 17, 2006 5:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It wont hurt anything. Give it a try. He will have to have pretty good technique to get up with only 170 horse.

Tell him to keep his arms all the way extended and don't pull them in. And to bend his knees as far as they will go.

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PostPosted: Jul 17, 2006 8:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

jt09, I was thinking about the same cat, Jason Buffalo is a big guy and can bust inverts....

I'd say he is 350+ for sure who know by now...
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jumalian, You ride with him? That would be very motivational. Seeing some big dude busting inverts always gets the skinny wimpy guy to take off the skirt and try something new.

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PostPosted: Jul 17, 2006 8:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think you need two wakeboards and a roll of duct-tape. Tape one to each foot and give it a shot.

In all seriousness, I would do as mentioned, try with the ski hook and definitely rent the largest board possible. **IF** you can get him up, then you should be fine, but I think it will be extremely difficult to get him up if he has no atheletic skill or balance. If he is just a large, rather unmobile person, then I dont think its ever going to happen. If he is a good athelete, just supersized, then you might have a shot.
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PostPosted: Jul 17, 2006 8:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Atleast while he's just getting up i'd put him on the ski hook. You know how newbies fight the pull and muscle their way up. And plus a tower isn't gonna do him any good anyway right now.
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Put fins and bindings on a 4x8 sheet of plywood and the boat can probably pull him at 10 MPH. Mr. Green
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PostPosted: Jul 17, 2006 12:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jumalian wrote:
tell that to my friend who i believe weighs 350lbs+, does crows, roll to reverts, 360s, grabs, etc.[/quote]


That's bada$$ Surprised

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jumalian wrote:
tell that to my friend who i believe weighs 350lbs+, does crows, roll to reverts, 360s, grabs, etc.


[/quote]

I don't think anyone here doubts a big guy can do any of that stuff. The big question, is if you owned a $50 grand wakeboard boat and you had a friend that never rode before, would you pull him from your tower? If so, you either have too much money, or you need to see a doctor.
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PostPosted: Jul 18, 2006 4:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you spent 50 G's on a wakeboat that wouldnt pull two 180 pound riders, you got ripped the hell off. The stresses of pulling a tuber from a tower are probably more than a 400 pound wakeboarder would be. Just think how much stress a kite tube puts on a tower.
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PostPosted: Jul 18, 2006 5:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The stresses of pulling a tuber from a tower are probably more than a 400 pound wakeboarder would be. Just think how much stress a kite tube puts on a tower.

Hmm... but every single tower manufacturer out there advises against doing this. In fact prjetty much all totally condemn it.

Dip Crew - check the weight limitation of your tower and that your boats deck meets your tower manufacturers specifications - if it does... go for it. 170 horses should be fine... its not as if you're trying to get him up on a duck swerver. a board of around 140+cm should be fine for learning.

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PostPosted: Jul 18, 2006 6:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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If you spent 50 G's on a wakeboat that wouldnt pull two 180 pound riders, you got ripped the hell off. The stresses of pulling a tuber from a tower are probably more than a 400 pound wakeboarder would be. Just think how much stress a kite tube puts on a tower.


It's like you guys miss the main part of my replies. IF THE GUY IS A ROOKIE, NEVER BEEN UP ON A BOARD!!! I don't give a damn if you spend $100 g's on a boat, a rookie is going to put a LOT of stress on a tower. The boat is plenty powerful enough, no doubt about that. No way, does a tube put that kind of stress on anything. And like brit rider said, all tower manufacturers advise against it. That's all I mean.

So Dip Crew, listen to exactly what brit rider said. It's one of the more intelligent replies in this thread.
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PostPosted: Jul 18, 2006 6:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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It's like you guys miss the main part of my replies. IF THE GUY IS A ROOKIE, NEVER BEEN UP ON A BOARD!!! I don't give a damn if you spend $100 g's on a boat, a rookie is going to put a LOT of stress on a tower. The boat is plenty powerful enough, no doubt about that. No way, does a tube put that kind of stress on anything. And like brit rider said, all tower manufacturers advise against it. That's all I mean.

So Dip Crew, listen to exactly what brit rider said. It's one of the more intelligent replies in this thread.


IMO, I think you over estimate a persons ability to hold onto a rope. Its not like your using the tower to pull out a tree stump. Plus have you ever seen a tube get caught under water and submarine? I think that can pull a lot harder on a rope than a person can, even if he is 400 lbs.

No matter how you slice it, getting a 400 pound guy up with only 170 HP is going to be a challenge. Theres plenty of 160 pound guys that dont do anything but plow water all day long their first time out.

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alafiaboarder wrote:
better title: "can a boat pull up a 400 pound person"

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"Will my boat shatter into pieces if i try and pull up a 400 pound person?"


Are you serious? We have pulled 2 people both at about 200 pounds each behind a SeaDoo boat. If your boat won't pull 400 pounds you should probably retire the wooden hull Chris Craft

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PostPosted: Jul 18, 2006 11:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No I dont think so. not unless you have a really powerful boat or something. or mabey if he learned to beach start or dock start. lol. I dont think its happening.
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