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PostPosted: Aug 13, 2006 8:11 pm    Post subject: Toe Side wake jump Reply with quote

I am looking for any advice on toe side wake jumps. I have yet to try one, but every time I edge out on my toe side, I feel incredibly awkward and even riding over the wake takes some effort. Is there anything that I can do to make my toe side more comfortable?
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PostPosted: Aug 13, 2006 8:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

just spending time on the water working on it
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PostPosted: Aug 14, 2006 2:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

it'll feel like you're going to fall over, but if you just relax you'll be fine. keep the handle no higher than your hip, lean back a bit and stay tall, don't bend over. before trying wake jumps practice crossing the wake toeside at high speeds. inside the wake, try carving heelside with two hands, then carve toeside and let go with one hand. keep practicing it and it will come.
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PostPosted: Aug 14, 2006 5:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I used to let go of the handle cause i was afraid of going off axis in the air, it was a bad habit, but ts is soooooooo simple, bro, just take a progressive cut and rise up, thats all there is.....its simple, give it 5 tries and you'll have it, just give er bud..
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PostPosted: Aug 14, 2006 6:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

push your hip in the direction of the wake. make sure you over-exadurate(sp) it and push your shoulderblades together, stand tall, and make a progressive cut into the wake. make sure you DO NOT bend over before you jump because you could faceplant. after you get used to this you can start adding a little legs into it
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PostPosted: Aug 15, 2006 6:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks guys, this will help a lot, seeing as I don't get a lot of water time to work things out as much.
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PostPosted: Aug 15, 2006 6:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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When learning heelside everyone talks about progressive edge and standing tall. The exact same principles apply to toeside. The biggest thing I find people have trouble with is doing a true progressive edge toeside. The word progressive means consistently changing, and so the strength of your edge should be changing throughout the whole cut. Many people who are not comfortable with TS generally start off their cut toeside then about 10 or 15 feet from the wake they stop the progression and just hold the same edge strength through the wake. The problem with this is that once the progression of edge strength stops the line tension begins to decrease because all you are really doing is just coasting into the wake. So my biggest suggestion is to take a smaller maybe 15-20 cut but focus on having that edge strength increasing the whole time. There is a large misconception that as long as you don’t flatten off and hold your edge that you are doing a progressive edge, this is not true, it has to remain getting stronger the closer you are to the wake. You can hold your edge at a certain strength without flattening off, so tell me what is progressive about that?, nothing. The point I am stressing is in order to get good pop you need line tension and to get line tension you need a proper PROGRESSIVE edge. Now as for standing tall it is a little different than heelside. When doing it heelside you are already square with the boat so in its basic principle you are extending you legs while riding up the wake. With toeside it is difficult to ride in with a bent knee approach and straiten your legs to stand tall. It can be done this way but is much harder. It is best to cut in with a tall standing approach. This will save you from having to properly time the extension of your legs while riding up the wake, and contending with the handle at you back hips and the thousand other things you have to deal with when jumping toeside. Instead of trying to stand up from a bent position to tall while riding up the wake approach the wake in a tall position and think about driving your hips straight up to the sky as you are riding up. This will force you to load you rear foot as you ride up the wake and will promote the proper mechanics of standing tall at the peak of the wake. Overall try to work on a proper progressive edge and using your hips and trying to lift them to the sky at the wake. If these two things are done properly, and providing the rest of the basic mechanics are in tact, you should be able to get plenty of pop on your toeside edge
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PostPosted: Aug 15, 2006 9:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

When I jump toeside the board has a tendency to want to rotate in the air. I end up landing with the board pointed toward the boat and sliding out. Will letting go of my back hand help this?
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PostPosted: Aug 15, 2006 9:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nooga678, not necessarily. Keep the handle close to your hip and don't look towards the boat. Look towards the shore. Also make sure that you keep edging upon landing to keep from sliding out.
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PostPosted: Aug 17, 2006 3:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am still having problems with the rotating. I tried looking at the shore yesterday, but my body just wants to naturally rotate around. Any other suggestions? I will keep working at it.
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