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PostPosted: May 14, 2003 5:35 am    Post subject: the dark slide Reply with quote

Okay, Rodney Mullen does them on rails and pretty much anything he can, and it's a pretty sick trick. I've never seen this done on a wakeskate, but I think it's time (if it hasn't already happened). I'm so going to try that this year. I'll get pics if it goes well.

For those that don't know, the dark slide is when you do a 1/2 kickflip, slide on the griptape and 1/2 kickflip out so that you land on the wheels.
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PostPosted: May 14, 2003 6:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

have fun trying it im sure youll be successful Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: May 14, 2003 7:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

im goin to owc sat, i think im gona try one on the john boat
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PostPosted: May 14, 2003 9:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

there is already a thread on this.......good luck though, get some videos and pics
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PostPosted: May 14, 2003 11:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

in skateboarding it's called a dark slide, so I didn't even look at the other post cause it's not spelled the same. I thought it was talking about star wars or something.

I'll check it out
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PostPosted: May 14, 2003 11:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

no, its wakeskating, thats why its in the wakeskating forum.....if its in the wakeskating forum, its most likely supposed to be, someone just thought it was a different name
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PostPosted: May 14, 2003 12:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

x2xwakegurlx2x layin down the law!
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PostPosted: May 14, 2003 12:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

lol ya, sry, i didnt mean for that to sound rude, i was saying it
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PostPosted: May 14, 2003 1:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

graphik-- I am the ignorant bum who started the thread "darkside". I don't skateboard, but I had heard of that family of tricks and thought it would be cool if someone did it on a wakeskate. Sorry to confuse you with the name of the post. In my defense, there is quite a bit of discussion in the previous thread about the name. Plus, I've talked to some friends who skateboard and they claim that the term "darkside" isn't completely inaccurate.

The way it was explained to me: "darkside" is more of a family name. If you were actually going to describe a specific trick you would say darkslide though. Jester explains it better in the previous thread.

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PostPosted: May 14, 2003 4:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i dont think it will be long before people start doing them, i wouldnt be suprised if someone is doing them now. guys are already doing nose/tail slides and blunts so it wont be long before darkslides and caspers will be attempted.
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PostPosted: May 15, 2003 5:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i could see darkslides in five years possibly i dont think anybody could do them any time soon. ok think of how many people can do a consistet kickflip. ok now think of how many people can do those on a rail. if you thought of anyone that could kickflip on a rail please let me know cuz i wanna see video(sick). just think about doing half a kickflip with a 90 degree turn onto a rail thats pretty tuff but then doing it off would be even harder. and if anyone has time get a piece of sandpaper and a small section of pvc and see how well the two rub together.
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PostPosted: May 15, 2003 6:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i would think the wakeskates that had the foam,rubber tops or w/e would just stick to pvc like glue
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PostPosted: May 15, 2003 6:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

x2xwakegurlx2x - easy... (kidding)
Dave, no worries, but if you get the chance check out a skate video and see the dark slide. It's pretty impressive. Of if you have Tony Hawk 2(or 3) I think Mullen does them in the intro video.

I never even thought of the the PVC vs rubber thing before. I was actually thinking of doing it on the wake first. Just to get a feel for it. Grip tape will actually slide on metal, but you won't go that far before it grabs. We should start a pool for who the first pro wakeskater is to land one. Not sure who I'd pick. Maybe Byerly or Grubb. Actually I bet Horell will get it before Grubb.

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PostPosted: May 15, 2003 7:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i think Tim Kovacich will get it if he even is trying that i really like watching him wakeskate
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PostPosted: May 15, 2003 7:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

How would someone do a casper? You definitely couldn't do it in the water & I'd LOVE to see someone try it on a rail since Rodney doesn't even do that.

I agree that the foam top will probably not slide at all, but you should be able to get the griptape to grind just fine.
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PostPosted: May 15, 2003 9:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

and usually on the concaves the wooden edges lie above the grip tape so it would slide easy as pie.

Also, isn't a darkslide usually done by half kickflipping on then half heelflipping off? Could be wrong...

And you are dreaming about caspering a rail...maybe a funbox though? Although at 20mph its pretty damn hard, and with no trucks to hold your feet on Smile

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PostPosted: May 15, 2003 2:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

maybe you could do a casper on a floating dock
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PostPosted: May 15, 2003 2:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

im gonna agree with viking on this one im not saying its not gonna happen i just dont think its gonna happen anytime soon
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PostPosted: May 15, 2003 3:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i dont think grip tape would slide any more on pvc than foam would. Im also not sure about the concave idea where the grip tape doesnt go over the edge. i dont know about cassetes but last years hyperlite definitely had not enuff concave for this to happen. oh and i didnt mention this in my firs post but how easily do you think your feet can stay on the board. with the combination of water and rocker i think this part of the trick is currently impossible. the only way i think this trick is currently possible is by doing a lipslide on the wake. i dont see why we still have arguements about this there have been like three or four topics regarding this subject. ive personally heard all the arguements and think we should all keep our opinions to ourselves at least till someone has tried the trick.
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PostPosted: May 15, 2003 3:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It'd be impossible on the wake, how would you flip it back around?

If you can grind on cement with griptape you can definitely do PVC.
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PostPosted: May 15, 2003 4:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i was watching the snap promo vid and saw someone doing a lipslide and with out coming out of the lipslide did an ollie 180 back into another lipslide and then come out of the lipslide. i figure if someone could do this someone could do a half kickflip out.
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PostPosted: May 18, 2003 10:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

dude a casper on a floating dock doesnt sound as hard as a darkslide , im thinkin the casper will come first, i think ill try that to , i busted my face tryin the darkslide at owc on the fun box, but the grip tape did slide
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PostPosted: May 18, 2003 3:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jibn-it-all, a casper at 20mph with no trucks to hold your feet on??? Not saying it will NEVER happen, but...
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PostPosted: May 19, 2003 6:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

on the cable it doesnt seem that fast, i think it could be done soon
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PostPosted: May 19, 2003 7:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Vikingsextreme107 wrote:
i was watching the snap promo vid and saw someone doing a lipslide and with out coming out of the lipslide did an ollie 180 back into another lipslide and then come out of the lipslide. i figure if someone could do this someone could do a half kickflip out.


There is a HUGE difference between doing a 180 or even a shuvit on a wake & doing a half kickflip. If you watch Rodney come outta his darkslides it's not just a simple half flip, it ends up more like an inward heelflip, the nose flops over the tail & half heelflips back around. If you think that's something you can bust on a wake feel free to try, but last I saw the wakes don't get to be 41".
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PostPosted: May 19, 2003 8:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

well if you could ollie out of the lipslide/boardslide(butterslide) and kick down with your toe you should be able to get it around and you dont really have to worry about sping 90 degress of the rail(wake) so that makes it easier. i know it would be tough pretty close to impossible i just think this is the only way that seems possible to me. another idea would be like a darkslide 50-50(i dont know what this would be called in skateboarding or if there is even such a trick) but this seems possible to do on a wakeskate and a whole lot easier than a darkslide. i just havent figured out how you would get of the rail yet.
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PostPosted: May 22, 2003 5:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

jibn-it-all You tried it at OWC? C'mon, we need more details than "I busted my face". What happened? How exactly did you bust your face? What part of your face did you bust? What deck were you using for the attempt? Do you have a video of the attempt? Details, we need details.

Ummm... How bad did you really bust your face? I hope not bad. I'd feel pretty stupid if you were in the process of having reconstructive surgery and I was making light of it.

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Some of you play too much Tony Hawk's Pro Skater.
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You're just jealous 'cuz you can't 900 varial revert to casper to 360 flip out!
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DAMMIT how did you know?? Shocked
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jibn-it-all do u go to o dub a lot? i ahve a year pass im there pretty all the time.
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yeah i kno who u are
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come up and talk to me next time u see me out there so i know who u are.
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i can ride my cwb lucky upside down al the way to the first corner on our cable ski here in Alphen city holland but there is no way i can flip it back cause the tip and tail are submerged Sad
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