What did I do wrong on this half cab roll attempt (video)

Erik

The half cab roll is the last invert I need to 'get back' after breaking my leg a few years ago. I worked on them this weekend, and I am not sure what is going wrong. I would appreciate it if someone who can stand this trick up, could take a look at this video and let me know what I am doing wrong. Thanks very much in advance for your help!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-UBSserpHQ

bradb · Outlaw Joined: 09 Jan 2004 Posts: 204 City: Parksville

erik,
Looks to me like you open up to the boat way earlier than I do. Is that the way you do your regular roll to revert? When I do both of those tricks, I think backroll (but with slightly more upright edge - less line tension) until I'm all the way upside-down. Then I start to think about the 180 and break forward at the waist (not with my upper body, but with my legs) a bit to bring my toes down before my heels.
If you look at the first few frames off the wake, you let go of the handle and throw your head and shoulders back off the wake. The board doesn't even go over your head. If I was you, I would think "backroll" first, then throw in the half-cab when you get inverted.
Don't know if that is the proper way, but it is how i do them.
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bradb · Outlaw Joined: 09 Jan 2004 Posts: 204 City: Parksville

If you check out my gallery, I have a roll to revert in the vid I did last year. You can really see the difference off the wake. (it's about the 4th trick in)
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goinbig143 · Addict Joined: 20 Feb 2005 Posts: 659 City: Wonder lake

I would try a taller approach. You have rotation to spare but no height and you cased the second wake.

(disclaimer..... I cannot do one, so what do I know?) While learning backrolls I suffered the same issue, crouching all the way in and initiating the spin to early, as well as dropping the handle off the top of the wake, and it caused me to repeatedly case the second wake. I just stood taller and waited longer for my pop.

J_DOGG · Posted: Jun 21, 2006 8:35 am Post subject:

Erik Jernberg, do you mean halfcab roll or switch roll to revert?

either way, why the one hand only method????? you should be able to do the entire trick (either one) with both hands on the handle.

spinnintowin · Guest

J Dogg,

Half Cab Roll and Switch Roll to Revert are the same thing. Nobody does them with both hands on the handle.

bradb · Outlaw Joined: 09 Jan 2004 Posts: 204 City: Parksville

I'm with J Dogg... Learn it keeping 2 hands on the handle at least until you are upside-down. Good luck.
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Erik · Posted: Jun 22, 2006 10:54 am Post subject:

I have to agree with spinnintowin there. I thought half-cab rolls and rolls to revert were identical. I guess they are similar And in the past, I have landed them. I always let go with my back hand to aid the rotation. But I see your point that maybe I released it too soon. Thanks!

J_DOGG · Posted: Jun 22, 2006 11:53 am Post subject:

spinnintowin, Are you sure about that statement?

Halfcab, if I recall Mr. Murray correctly in Detention it is just the old school term for approaching the wake SWITCH.

I.E. Halfcab 180 = switch 180.

That is my understanding so NO a roll to revert is not a halfcab roll.
A halfcab roll is a switch roll and YES I do those with both hands on the handle.

I'll try to check the vid tonight to make sure for my own benefit and all others that use this board for knowledge.

Craig-R · Guest

J_DOGG, a SWITCH roll to revert is the same as a halfcab roll. yes halfcab means going in switch and landing with your normal foot forward so a halfcab roll is a backroll with a 180 but you start switch and land in your normal stance just like a switch roll 2 revert you start switch and land normal.

Erik · Posted: Jun 22, 2006 2:52 pm Post subject:

Just to be clear - I am approaching the wake switch in that video. I can do regular backrolls, switch backrolls and regular rolls to revert just fine & dandy. So it is this half cab roll aka switch roll to revert that vexes me still.

kyle2 · Newbie Joined: 21 Jun 2006 Posts: 15 City: Tampa

Erik, you let go with your lead hand WAYYYYY to early, you shouldnt let go until you are about midway or over midway through your flip.

And to clear the argument, a Half Cab roll IS a switch R2R

J_DOGG · Posted: Jun 23, 2006 3:40 am Post subject:

Craig-R, correct, I didn't remember that it was anything you start switch and land regular, invert or spin regardless.

So a halfcab roll is a switch roll to revert.

I'm glad I don't argue and just check the facts, thanks for taking it easy on me guys, I was slightly off in my definition above limiting it only to spins.

You know me, I like to make sure we keep things tight and right on here.

Ride DH · Outlaw Joined: 10 Jun 2006 Posts: 186

i'm pretty sure there would be no thing as cab if half cab was coming in switch Rolling Eyes

wake_jake · Newbie Joined: 19 Mar 2005 Posts: 2 City: Australia

It would also help if you had the handle at you back hip when your coming into the wake so when you throw it your body will automatically roll around into the rotaion. The closer it is to your back hip the easier it should be to do the half cab part of it, It feels really weird at first but works, And try having bent kness through the whole rotation so that when you land you stomp in the landing and dont slide out on your ass. Oh and im not sure if you know or not but if you landed that attemp in the video you would have done a switch backmobe Wink

.. Good luck at it mate.

DopetasticM.large · Newbie Joined: 01 Jul 2006 Posts: 4 City: fenton

a cabalerial was created by steve caballero on a half pipe in skateboarding, its a fakie 360. so a half cab would be half of a fakie 360...ie. fakie 180

Stewie · Posted: Jul 07, 2006 11:37 am Post subject:

Halfcab rolls are the same thing as a normal roll to revert, except switch...duh. So just do the same thing as a r2r, but everything is backwards.