new tower

deltakid · Newbie Joined: 14 Nov 2005 Posts: 16

So im sure this has been asked on here tons of times before, but i searched for it and couldnt find anything that really answered my questions. So here it goes... My family and I decided to finally throw down and buy a tower for our 2004 Reinell 185 Runabout. It throws a pretty decent wake with people in the back, but my cousin and i couldnt really seem to get a big boot off of the wake because we were tied to the back of the boat right over the swim deck. Im wonding, now that the tower is on its way, will that give us a little bit of help being we are tied off higher up. We pretty much have progressive edging down and everything, but otherwise hauling balls into the wake doesnt get us very far. How much difference should i expect? Im just waiting on UPS to bring it and a sunny day on the delta. Thanks guys.

kind · Outlaw Joined: 03 May 2006 Posts: 118

from my understanding a tower does nothing for air.. it only helps air time.
lets you spend a second longer in the air... so it won't help you get more pop.
you should get some fat sacs and weigh down the rear end it sounds like.

ckligor · Soul Rider Joined: 18 Feb 2003 Posts: 454 City: A-town

kind, Not exactly true! If you are jumping to the limits of the rope and it just keeps pulling you down a tower will help alot. However if the technique is not there a tower will do you no good at all.

Blake · Posted: Jun 06, 2006 3:23 pm Post subject:

ckligor, fa sho...

This should be the reply to all tower threads.. Even if its a "which tower looks better" thread. Cool

WachoZacho · Criminal Joined: 18 Oct 2005 Posts: 64 City: Bridgewater

yea towers won't help ya unless you're maxing out the rope really

WattsBarRiDr · Outlaw Joined: 12 May 2006 Posts: 115 City: knoxville

NO way dude... i ve ridden mostly with like smi pros and sum pro wakeboarders like philip soven and shaun murray and mosty adam fields but all they talk about is using the tower because it does indeed pull u higher in the air only if u use it right.... the main thing is to keep ur elbows in..likeright on ur side and when u do jump push the handle down like to ur hips and this will make u go way higher than u were without the tower.. but it takes alot of time and profection and alil boring cause i no u want to be doing inverts and stuff but thoes will come way easier if u have a awsum wake jump

Blake · Posted: Jun 07, 2006 11:49 pm Post subject:

deltakid, just to point out, I would not listen to anything WattsBarRiDr just said... I am pretty sure that you just read the most grammatically flawed post too.

WattsBarRiDr, they must be using the new helicopter towers ehh?

WattsBarRiDr · Outlaw Joined: 12 May 2006 Posts: 115 City: knoxville

o yeah bra let me tell u.. then y do u even think they have towers then??? they arnt there 4 just looks even tho most people are posers and have them to look cool, but if u dnt think i no what im talkin bout dnt listen to me but hey dude thaks 4 the comment about my GRAMMR ohhh.. i spelled that one wrong.. r u a wakeboarder or a damn english teacher bra???? but NO WORRIES

screwston_boarder · Soul Rider Joined: 08 Jun 2006 Posts: 342 City: Houston

WattsBarRiDr, im not going to lie but i don't think you only misspelled one word

but on another note.. deltakid, although the tower may help.. like some have said above it won't make worlds of difference unless you have the right technique. and its not all about hauling ass into the wake. standing tall as you ride up the wake will also help you get bigger air

Blake · Posted: Jun 09, 2006 7:49 am Post subject:

WattsBarRiDr · Outlaw Joined: 12 May 2006 Posts: 115 City: knoxville

Thats funny..... im not going to disagree with you, but since you are so sure about this why don't you try wakeboarding behind a newer wakeboard boat with the tower then ride w/o it and then i want you to tell me what you just learned, but if you found no difference try my tips i left and do it again.. then there will be a huge difference.. just believe me on this one.. i know. I rode behind a sea ray w/o a tower for a year then we got a malibu wakesetter 23lsv with one of those towers that we paid extra for just to ''look cool'' and have no other reason with physics ( witch is like very stupid... no worries bro i respect that you think yyou no physics enough that if your being pulled up you will go up, but if you are being pulled down you will get pulled down.. but give it a whirl buddy

Blake · Posted: Jun 10, 2006 2:29 am Post subject:

WattsBarRiDr, my father owns a 04 SANTE TE.... I own a SeaRay without a tower... The pull is nothing different in reguards to an "upward" pull that you speak of with a tower. Could it be, that the reason you are going higher behind an LSV is because that is a wake specialty boat? Naw.... That couldnt be it; its the tower, I am certain.

Before you post again, you can read this: http://forums.wakeboarder.com/viewtopic.php?t=55036&highlight=tower+physics

I dont want to argue with you on this one kid, as it does nothing to help the original topic poster. However, just to let you know, I started riding when you were still sh!tting yellow! Wink

WattsBarRiDr · Outlaw Joined: 12 May 2006 Posts: 115 City: knoxville

Yes.. the tower plays a big roll in that i go so high.. in fact i did try rideing with the rope on the ski thing that is down low.. but still not as low as a i/o and there was a huge difference... for example when i did a jump w/o the tower it does pull you out of position and your arms downward... i had a hard enough time passing the handle too because of it... so think what you want buddy im just telling you what most people would pay $$$$ for in some lessons with a big name wakeboarder but owell

K-dub · Ladies Man Joined: 12 Jan 2003 Posts: 14760

Blake · Posted: Jun 10, 2006 9:07 am Post subject:

WattsBarRiDr, I am not your "buddy", "bro", or "bra"... You are trying too hard.

You didnt read the link yet did you? Laughing

Ian_82 · Addict Joined: 24 Mar 2005 Posts: 803 City: Longview, WA

oh man. that thread was

what i have in my head is, as you are jumping, the boat is moving. the tension on the line should pull the rope up to a level point with the tower.

but i think what were forgetting is most wake jumps, after you leave the wake, tension on the line isnt there anymore, therefore there is no "pulling" of anything, up or down.

then again, i may be wrong. just my $.02

WattsBarRiDr · Outlaw Joined: 12 May 2006 Posts: 115 City: knoxville

yeah... ummm there should always be tension on the line but yep.. the line.. if theres not you are doing something wrong , but sorry if i caused any problems with calling you bro,bra,or buddy..thats just how i roll but yeah just think about it .. it makes alot of cents..also the line doesnt go slackly when you do a regular w2w jump just by the way your goin and the boat pullin and the TOWER PULLING YOU UP!!!

Blake · Posted: Jun 10, 2006 9:09 pm Post subject:

My god; you are still retarded. Then again, when I was 15 I knew everything as well.

So it is my understanding a tower will make someone ride like:

hco · Posted: Jun 11, 2006 1:53 pm Post subject:

I am sorry for flaming and what-not, but Watts, you are a moron. Yah bra we r 4 reel mang, i chillll wif bonifay all teh time an they say tht teh towr givs u lik 300000+ feat of air and lik 30 sekonds of air time.

First off, I will call shenanigans on your wakeboarding with those said pros. If you do ride with them, I am sorry, and I envy your ability to ride with such amazing boarders.

HOWEVER, towers do not make that much of a difference. I won't say that they do not help at all, but as long as your rope isnt the height of the swim platform, I highly doubt you will notice a difference (like Blake said with his reference to his sea ray and his parents boat). Furthermore, the:

WattsBarRiDr · Outlaw Joined: 12 May 2006 Posts: 115 City: knoxville

YEAh Buddy calll up ADAM FIELDS and ask him how much the tower helps ypu in wakeboarding, and i wasnt talking about when you cut in to the wake when the rope gets slak but some guy said ''but i think what were forgetting is most wake jumps, after you leave the wake, tension on the line isnt there anymore, therefore there is no "pulling" of anything, up or down. '' words from Ian 82, but yep Adam lives on the same lake as philip soven and i rode with both of them in march but now adam is in NC... also i rode with gerry nunn..like 4 or 5 weeks ago with the malibu thing and he talked about the tower... Let me ask yall this one.. Why even have a tower if it does nothing???

hco · Posted: Jun 11, 2006 6:17 pm Post subject:

Because it allows people to sit in the back seat. Also, when you jump, there is always tension in the line assuming the boat is going forward and you don't cut forward. And if there wasn't any, why would the tower create tension? It wouldn't. You have NOTHING to back you up besides the fact that you drop names like I drop crap in the toliet. Also, I didn't say that it didn't do anything, but you are over-exaggerating its influence on the rider.

K-dub · Ladies Man Joined: 12 Jan 2003 Posts: 14760

WattsBarRiDr, bra....can I have your autograph? You know so many pro's....I'm actually kind of jealous.

I must really suck. Rolling Eyes

Blake · Posted: Jun 11, 2006 8:21 pm Post subject:

WattsBarRiDr · Outlaw Joined: 12 May 2006 Posts: 115 City: knoxville

O yeah.. Your a funny guy... you might have been on the water longer than i have, but you didnt do nothen, or if you did umm lets see.. you would be relly good.. 15 years or riding.. damn.... but relly a pylon that stands stright up in the boat right??? yeah they arn't good because they swing your boat back and forth way more than a tower witch messes up the wake...but you wouldnt no that cause you ride behind a searay w/o a tower??? yeah..ive been there and it sucks...And LITTLE MAN??? you dont know me... But since you are so old you must be a pro trick skier right so you are use to the old no tower little wake jumps and see how fast you can flip back around.And ummm leaned a few pro names??? whats up with that why dont you watch ''Scrubs of the south'' cause im in it for like 2 tricks i think?? but thats doesnt matter to you since youve been around for so long you ve probally been in so many more videos than everybody else

WattsBarRiDr · Outlaw Joined: 12 May 2006 Posts: 115 City: knoxville

O yeah... but iguess since you are so smart and everything you can just change somebody s name just because you want to... but most deff. its Gerry Nunn but no worries thats just how you roll, old wise and very smart fellow wakeboarder

K-dub · Ladies Man Joined: 12 Jan 2003 Posts: 14760

Blake, he's right....it is "G"erry Nunn. Laughing

....send that autograph on a piece of toilet paper for me.

hco · Posted: Jun 12, 2006 10:41 am Post subject:

Blake · Posted: Jun 12, 2006 10:46 am Post subject:

K-dub, I said Joe Montania! Laughing

It is in the mail amigo... Heading strait towards the land of fruits and nuts! Get you some Kyle.

WattsBarRiDr, I know nothing... I made everything up... Even 4 years of coaching wakeboarding! As for my SeaRay: I also ride behind a loaded SANTE via fathers boat. I purchased the SeaRay becuase I am away from home right now, and didnt feel the need to drive 200 miles every weekend to ride... But you wouldnt know anything about that, because you are 15, and unable to establish a line of credit.

WattsBarRiDr · Outlaw Joined: 12 May 2006 Posts: 115 City: knoxville

but yeah.. lol.. i got the pole thing from shaun murrays instrunctional movie so i guess your calling one of the guys who helped to get wakeboarding where it is today a moron, but maybe you should check that out there kdub.. and back from ''That, and the free pull you give them behind your Malibu! And its Jerry Nunn by the way. '' MY bOAT RUNS ON GAS NOT THANKS BRA.. so i dnt give away free pulls and where did you get Jerry??? its Gerry there... but owell

hco · Posted: Jun 12, 2006 3:05 pm Post subject:

You didn't help wakeboarding at all. So Shaun Murray said that pylons throw the boat side to side when being used? If Shaun Murray came out and said that exactly (or very close to it), I would be very suprised, and I would then doubt Murray's intelligence level. If the pylon is not fitted correctly it could potentially jerk around a bit, and if the rider is huge enough, I guess it could potentially move a boat an inch or two off course, but nothing that you would notice.

Quit name dropping and start learning how to type coherent english with sentences that include valid information.

Blake · Posted: Jun 12, 2006 5:10 pm Post subject:

WattsBarRiDr · Outlaw Joined: 12 May 2006 Posts: 115 City: knoxville

no shaun murry helped wakeboarding not me....but thats his exact words in detition i think but he was comparing a tower to a pole and he said that a tower is more stable while riding and wont sway the boat as much as a pole

WattsBarRiDr · Outlaw Joined: 12 May 2006 Posts: 115 City: knoxville

YEah thats my bad blake..thanks for pointing that out to me it was HCO or whatever.. my misstake

K-dub · Ladies Man Joined: 12 Jan 2003 Posts: 14760

WattsBarRiDr, hey stoner....I was backing you up with the Gerry Nunn thing, douche bag.....actually, now that I read your last post again, i'm confused. Who "were" you calling out? Me, or this goat roaper Blake?

hco · Posted: Jun 12, 2006 5:21 pm Post subject:

The day that a pylon will sway the boat a noticable amount and be ALOT different performance wise from a tower is the day I start to practice cannabalism.