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kimball Criminal
Joined: 22 Jan 2003 Posts: 67 City: Iowa
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Posted: Apr 30, 2003 2:07 pm Post subject: heelside front flip help |
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What are some pointers on doing this trick? Are they fairly easy?
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Stephan Guest
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Posted: Apr 30, 2003 4:08 pm Post subject: |
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I have issues with it too. I'm self conscious after breaking my leg trying them . But the key is to come in hard and compact and extend off the top over your lead shoulder.
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toothpick Wakeboarder.Commie
Joined: 28 Jan 2003 Posts: 1218 City: Clermont
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Posted: Apr 30, 2003 4:29 pm Post subject: |
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Two things that help me with it:
Make sure you have a very progressive edge.
Really pop off of your back leg, bringing your lead knee up high.
When I first learned them, I remember watching Jeremy Kovak's slowball and thinking that if he can wait that long to throw it and still go around, I can wait longer than I think I need to and still make it around, and it worked
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BR_WB Wakeboarder.com Freak
Joined: 12 Jan 2003 Posts: 2850
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Posted: Apr 30, 2003 6:05 pm Post subject: |
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Yea, I had an absolutely perfect tip to tip h/s front last summer, and when I started doing them this year, they were absolutely terrible looking frantrums...I noticed I'm not getting the super hard buck off the wake as I did last year. Hey toothpick I remember you from TWC March 2002.
Later,
Brad
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toothpick Wakeboarder.Commie
Joined: 28 Jan 2003 Posts: 1218 City: Clermont
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Posted: Apr 30, 2003 7:42 pm Post subject: |
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Oh yeah Brad, I remember you there. That was so much fun, I'm going back in two weeks!
One more tip on those fronts is to keep the handle down by your stomach throughout the flip. Naturally most people want to put their arms up above their head, which just lays you out and will hurt your rotation.
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bizzuck Addict
Joined: 12 Jan 2003 Posts: 593
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Posted: May 01, 2003 6:52 am Post subject: |
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the way i do em is fairly easy, cut in hard ~ progressive with 70% of your weight on your back foot, pop up then put your cheek to your lead shoulder, keep the handle in the same place the whole time. the same place it is on the edge in is where it should be when you are inverted and land. easy trick.
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Nathan Newman Addict
Joined: 08 Feb 2003 Posts: 711 City: Baylor
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Posted: May 01, 2003 7:48 am Post subject: |
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Thomas Horrel blew out his knee trying these, as have a lot of other pros. Why is this such a dangerous trick?
_________________ The consciousness of self is the greatest hindrance to the proper execution of all physical action.
-Bruce Lee
An eye for an eye will make the world blind.
-Gandhi
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BR_WB Wakeboarder.com Freak
Joined: 12 Jan 2003 Posts: 2850
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Posted: May 01, 2003 9:16 am Post subject: |
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Yea, my problem is that I'm raising my hands above my head so it's going into frantrum...I also need to get the buck back. They really are super easy, I just have to get the style back hahaha. I don't know why I have been throwing my hands up. Billy, I went to WWC in March...I really wish I would have gone to TWC instead.
Later,
Brad
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BR_WB Wakeboarder.com Freak
Joined: 12 Jan 2003 Posts: 2850
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Posted: May 01, 2003 9:18 am Post subject: |
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I think I am going to press the handle down more too so it has no chance of raising up.
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BR_WB Wakeboarder.com Freak
Joined: 12 Jan 2003 Posts: 2850
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Posted: May 01, 2003 9:18 am Post subject: |
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One more thing...do you think when I learned slob fronts to fakie, this could have possibly messed up my front?
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Nathan Newman Addict
Joined: 08 Feb 2003 Posts: 711 City: Baylor
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Posted: May 01, 2003 2:06 pm Post subject: |
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so why is the trick so dangerous? I'm not too keen on getting hurt just as summer starts
_________________ The consciousness of self is the greatest hindrance to the proper execution of all physical action.
-Bruce Lee
An eye for an eye will make the world blind.
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bizzuck Addict
Joined: 12 Jan 2003 Posts: 593
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Posted: May 01, 2003 6:07 pm Post subject: |
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this happened today on a front flip, less than eight hours after my initial post... ahahhahaah
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BR_WB Wakeboarder.com Freak
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Posted: May 01, 2003 9:03 pm Post subject: |
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Hey Bizzuck,
Front flips can really wreck boards hahha, I snapped my Premier DNA last year, I guess I came down too hard on the tail.
Later,
Brad
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Krashr31 Outlaw
Joined: 07 Feb 2003 Posts: 238 City: Florida
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Posted: May 01, 2003 9:30 pm Post subject: |
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I just learned these, i think i like that trick. i snapped my board on a roll to revert landing tail heavy. This trick takes more timing than most inverts, i'll say that.
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toothpick Wakeboarder.Commie
Joined: 28 Jan 2003 Posts: 1218 City: Clermont
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Posted: May 01, 2003 10:21 pm Post subject: |
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Dang Bizzuck, did that hurt your foot or ankle at all? I hurt my back foot on a front flip that I was all tweaked out on. Just curious on that one, did you pop high or was it one of those high speed low type flips?
Brad, good to hear that TWC is still the best, I can't wait to go
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bizzuck Addict
Joined: 12 Jan 2003 Posts: 593
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Posted: May 02, 2003 7:26 am Post subject: |
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naw it didnt hurt my ankle, of course they are both already shot,,,,, it wasnt the biggest ive ever thrown, but i landed clean,,,,, not tail heavy, it just gave up.
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Mariognarly Addict
Joined: 14 Jan 2003 Posts: 853
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Posted: May 02, 2003 9:44 am Post subject: |
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scary, i am thinking of trying a few fronts this summer. kind of reluctant to now though,
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Stephan Guest
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Posted: May 02, 2003 4:32 pm Post subject: |
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Don't fear it, just make sure you take it big. the injuries come if you puss it, mine sure did. Big wake and big cut and you're money.
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Wakeboardumb Outlaw
Joined: 12 Jan 2003 Posts: 164 City: Charlotte, NC
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Posted: May 02, 2003 7:30 pm Post subject: |
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weird. I never had any problems with fronts, if you are afraid you are going to break your board haha there is also a Techinique I learned to take your fronts wake to wake, and just straight up. its kind of hard to explain, you keep a progressive edge, but you wait longer and ride up more of the wake than you normally would and you just go straight up and land on the downside of the wake. thats the technique i used to do front to fakie becuase i couldnt land it out in the flats. but i dont know if that makes sense, if you can already do a front it will.
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Nathan Newman Addict
Joined: 08 Feb 2003 Posts: 711 City: Baylor
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Posted: May 04, 2003 8:20 am Post subject: |
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Wakeboardumb, Wakeboardumb, so do you cut in like a normal w2w on this "straight up" front flip?
_________________ The consciousness of self is the greatest hindrance to the proper execution of all physical action.
-Bruce Lee
An eye for an eye will make the world blind.
-Gandhi
It is better to die standing than to live on your knees.
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