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PostPosted: Jan 04, 2007 1:25 am    Post subject: Another DIY ballast system Reply with quote

Well I'm thinking about installing a ballast system in my boat over the next little while. I've searched this site and the web for info and came up with this
http://www.wakeworld.com/Articles/2001/BallastSystem1.asp
I was wondering if anyone is familiar with this article and or the system they use in it?
I am considering going with schematic C in the article, which uses a single reversing pump, off the raw water intake, to 3 bags. I am starting with 3 250lb sacs, 2 in the back, 1 up front.
Does anyone have any suggestions as to a cost effective pump? I've looked at the jabscos what other names are there?
Any other advice would be greatly appreciated.

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PostPosted: Jan 04, 2007 7:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Some pros and cons of reversible pump systems -
they're slow
they're loud
they draw alot of current (run big wires please)
they've been known to jamb upon reversing, so make your pumps accessible so you can lube them.
Jabscos can be mounted anywhere as they are iginition protected, Simers need to be isolated from any spark as they are not

If you check here on the forum myself and others have fairly complete lists of parts for just about everything....feel free to pm or e-mail me - I have an 8 pump, 3000 lb. four-sac system wit hfill times of about 3 minutes.

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PostPosted: Jan 04, 2007 12:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for your reply. I'v read alot on your system in the past little while. How's it all worked out for you?
I'm kinda leaning toward the reverse pump because this system definetly looks the easiest to install. I have an old correct craft (dd), I am considering using these sacs in the back corners
http://www.wakeside.com/page/w/PROD/wakeboard_boat_ballast/launch_pad_link_captain_07
and one of these in the bow
http://www.wakeside.com/page/w/PROD/wakeboard_boat_ballast/skylon_fat_buddies_ac3600
Heres a pic of my boat. Any help would be great!

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PostPosted: Jan 04, 2007 12:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just use a Simer pump, they're A LOT cheaper than the Jabsco, but will do the job just as well. To reverse them just wire them backwards for the empty. Ignition protection isn't somthing that you should worry about unless you are mounting the pump directly on the engine.
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PostPosted: Jan 04, 2007 6:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There are options. Each has there pros and cons. I chose a reversible system, but there are other benefits to aerator systems.

Here's the link to my install thread...

http://forums.wakeboarder.com/viewtopic.php?t=53991

Same/similar in the ballast section here...

http://www.wakesiderides.com/rides/index.php?page=out&id=1482

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PostPosted: Jan 05, 2007 11:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree, the reversible system is easier to install....
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PostPosted: Jan 06, 2007 11:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Okay, I've got the floor out of my boat, and think I've decided on a pump.
http://www.depcopump.com/datasheets/jabsco/18220-1121.pdf

My questions are 1st does it matter were the pump is is situated in relation to the water source, or the bags? (pump in bow, bags in stern?).
Also does it matter were the lines are run in relation to the pump or bag entry/exit openings?
And last I' ve found 2 thru hull connections. The 2 are connected and then lead into the motor. Is it normal to have 2 thru hulls to cool the motor?Heres a pic! Thanks

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PostPosted: Jan 08, 2007 6:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

hey buddy, looks like a pretty sweet system and those sacs will be perfect! let me know when ya get all the parts and pieces and i'll get down to give ya a hand forsure!!
p.s. i'm sure i can hook ya up with anything else ya need (wire, connectors, fuse holders etc.) just let me know......

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