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bjeremi Soul Rider

Joined: 30 Jan 2006 Posts: 433 City: Owasso
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Posted: Feb 02, 2006 1:37 pm Post subject: Newb question about props for 4.3 V6 motors |
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I own a 1991 seawirl. It has a 4.3 V6 motor, I know it's not the best motor for wakeboarding, but it's what I got right now. I have heard people talking about putting a 4-blade prop on. Is this something I should do and what and where should I buy this prop.
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tball Wakeboarder.com Freak


Joined: 24 Feb 2004 Posts: 3953
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Posted: Feb 02, 2006 6:58 pm Post subject: |
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http://www.marinepropshop.com/acmeprops.html
haven't bought from these guys but their website seems thorough. _________________
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Chad H PityDaFool Who Posts This Much

Joined: 28 Jun 2004 Posts: 6449 City: Atlanta
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Posted: Feb 02, 2006 7:25 pm Post subject: |
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bjeremi,
Are you running much wait in the boat? Is it bogging down much?
The 4 blade prop will give more torq, but at the same time lose speed. It looks like a sea swirl is an i/o and so the link tball provided is for inboards, so it probably won't work.
Answer those questions and we can help you out.
Hope this helps
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tball Wakeboarder.com Freak


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Posted: Feb 02, 2006 8:04 pm Post subject: |
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Sorry, the site has IO stuff also, I erroneously had the inboard section in the address. My bad. Try this.
http://www.marinepropshop.com _________________
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bjeremi Soul Rider

Joined: 30 Jan 2006 Posts: 433 City: Owasso
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Posted: Feb 02, 2006 10:29 pm Post subject: |
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| I am running one phat sack I think it's like 300 pounds maybe I haven't put on a scale or anything ha ha, but no it doesn't seem to bog down to much if we have a bunch of people on the boat then it does seem sluggish on take off. If all I am going to lose is speed that doesn't concern me to much I sure I would still be able to go fast enough to get a good pull. My engine would just be sitting at higher rpm's right. |
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tball Wakeboarder.com Freak


Joined: 24 Feb 2004 Posts: 3953
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Posted: Feb 02, 2006 10:44 pm Post subject: |
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it would be similar to driving your car in a lower gear. props aren't cheap, though. be sure to talk to some folks that have made this kind of change. I'm sure there are plenty of folks on here that have 4.3 IO with new props. Hopefully some of them will chime in. _________________
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bjeremi Soul Rider

Joined: 30 Jan 2006 Posts: 433 City: Owasso
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Posted: Feb 03, 2006 7:35 am Post subject: |
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| Yeah come on guys chime in. |
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srh00z Outlaw

Joined: 09 Nov 2003 Posts: 128 City: Birmingham
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Posted: Feb 03, 2006 2:44 pm Post subject: |
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| I went to a 4 blade on my 3.0L 4 cylinder before I bought my Malibu. It helped tremendously, but I probably lost 3-4 mph off of the tope end, and the engine did turn higher RPM's. I was warned to be careful of how many RPM's you are turning because boats don't have rev limiters, so theoretically you could cause damage. I never ran mine at full throttle after I put the new prop on. I didn't buy a stainless prop for what it's worth, I didn't think it was worth it, my prop was under 200 from overton's. |
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h2obug Soul Rider

Joined: 10 Aug 2003 Posts: 450 City: Muncie, IN
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Posted: Feb 03, 2006 5:35 pm Post subject: |
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The Merc HI FIVE blows away any prop ive seen for towing. My friend, Don, has had 19 IO w/ 4.3HO & HI FIVE he pull out of the hole as quick as any inboard or VDrive unweighted. After seeing its performance compared to the last 2 new Inboards and 2 Vdrives I have bought, I would not settle for anything less than that prop on an IO. _________________ Life is too short
Boatless Hurts Bad
CHRIS WALKER
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gmarkham1 Addict


Joined: 10 Sep 2003 Posts: 505 City: janesville
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Posted: Feb 03, 2006 8:39 pm Post subject: |
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a high five is the best but is also the most costly, and also stainless steel which can be nerve racking if you are in shallow water at all...
best bang for your buck is a 4 blade aluminum, they can be had for approx. $100.00
what size prop and pitch are you running now? also merc or volvo outdrive?
I might have a few extras here soon... might be upgrading...
btw I have a 2000 bayliner capri 1850(18ft) with a 4.3 l merc and have upwards of 2000lbs extra ballast. I have had the best luck with the a 18 pitch 4blade. And a high five is very tempting but the river I run has rocks and stumps and I lost one outdrive on an older boat due to a stainless prop and dont want to chance it again, aluminum gives before the gears do! _________________ www.midwestwakeboarder.com
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Brit Rider Wakeboarder.com Freak


Joined: 29 Mar 2004 Posts: 3347 City: Cheshire, England
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Posted: Feb 04, 2006 5:18 am Post subject: |
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gmarkham1, Running a high five shouldn't be nerve racking.. they all have the torq flo hib which allows it to break loose if you hit anything too hard.
h2obug, | Quote: |
The Merc HI FIVE blows away any prop ive seen for towing.
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Absolutly... I also swear by these props... I would never ever run anything - and i am not just talking in terms of wakeboard applications.... for pure grip and improved control i rate these as the best prop bar none. _________________ www.AxisBoats.co.uk | www.Malibu-Boats.co.uk |
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Darin Guest
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Posted: Feb 05, 2006 5:14 pm Post subject: |
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| I've had a Mercrusr Shifting prop. It was amazing. It's the equivilant of having a transmission on your boat. Mine was a 13to17 pitch. It would start at 13 for hole shot, wind the motor to your preset rpm limit, then shift to 17. I had a 3.0 then. It was the only way I could get up on a tournament ski. They are pretty expensive. But well worth it. Also they rule for slow speed stuff, like docking and trailering because of the super low pitch. The are solid stainless. Worth a look. |
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Brit Rider Wakeboarder.com Freak


Joined: 29 Mar 2004 Posts: 3347 City: Cheshire, England
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Posted: Feb 05, 2006 5:41 pm Post subject: |
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Darin, Wow, never heard of this... I am pretty sure its not made by mercruiser.. but can you please tell me more? pics and links especially appreciated..
Mike _________________ www.AxisBoats.co.uk | www.Malibu-Boats.co.uk |
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Brit Rider Wakeboarder.com Freak


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vette74 Wakeboarder.Commie


Joined: 30 Jul 2003 Posts: 2144 City: Houston
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Posted: Feb 06, 2006 6:21 am Post subject: |
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I have an 18 pitch 4 blade aluminum quicksilver prop for my 4.3 I/O. I bought it off of ebay for about $130 with the hub. It works a lot better than the 3 blade I replaced it with. However, I have never tried the high-5. _________________ There'll be two dates on your tombstone/ And all your friends will read 'em/ But all that's gonna matter is that little dash between 'em... |
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pilot_ryder Wakeboarder.Commie


Joined: 15 Sep 2005 Posts: 1296 City: edmonton
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Posted: Feb 06, 2006 11:26 am Post subject: |
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| I bought the high five prop for my 4.3 and was seriously disappointed with it considering the cost. I noticed very little change from my factory 3 blade in regards to performance. |
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bmartin Addict

Joined: 05 Feb 2003 Posts: 794
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Posted: Feb 06, 2006 12:00 pm Post subject: |
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| The most important factor in propping a boat is prop pitch and the holeshot and speed is less influenced by the number of blades, or what the prop is made out of, although the blades and materials do matter, just not as much as pitch. I suppose size matters too! I had the same motor and ran 700lb sacs plus 6 people with a 3 blade 17 pitch aluminium prop on 18ft boat. If you are pretty much using the prop for wakeboarding, a lower pitch prop is better so you get better hole shot with weight and rider in tow, but more impotrtantly, IMO it is easier to keep constant speed. If you underprop (low pitch), you need to watch the RPMs for overrevving when running unweighted WOT. |
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Darin Guest
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Posted: Feb 06, 2006 6:10 pm Post subject: |
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| I sacrificed all my top end to get my boat to pull quickly and rev effeciently at wakeboard speeds. I went from 50+mph to 38mph. But I don't need to go that fast for any reason, so I don't really car. I have a fast enough Sea Doo 3D for ripping around. |
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