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keithm Newbie
Joined: 31 Oct 2009 Posts: 19
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Posted: Nov 01, 2009 10:20 am Post subject: Installing a wakeboard rack without a tower on a Bayliner 17 |
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Enclosed is a step-by-step walk thru to install a wakeboard rack to a 2009 bayliner 175 without a wakeboard tower. My objective was to install a wake board rack that met the following criteria:
1. Was a robust system and could handle the various loads of the boat (not a wimpy design).
2. Could support 2x wakeboards.
3. Would not interfere with the Bimini (in deployed and/or stowed position).
4. Would not impede boarding/deboarding from the dock.
5. Would not interfere with docking the boat (cleat line obstruction, fender placement...).
6. Easy access to board.
7. Would not obstruct drivers view.
8. Functional and clean aesthetics.
9. Quick disconnect feature (no tools req'd would be nice).
I've looked at a few non-tower wake board systems and they are either too expensive or did not meet one or more of the criteria listed above. I bought, from e-bay a wake board rack at $120 sold by e-bay member "lipboating" and seen here:
http://cgi.ebay.com/Quick-Release-RAIL-Mount-7-8-Diameter-Wakeboard-Rack_W0QQitemZ190328574528QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item2c50779240
the wakeboard rack, from e-bay
closer view, seems like a nice item, aluminum made. The features I was looking for was the ability to attach to a 7/8 inch rod and fully adjustable mounting angles
the adjustable mounting bracket
close-up of weld |
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keithm Newbie
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Posted: Nov 01, 2009 10:21 am Post subject: |
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7/8 clamp in vertical position
7/8 clamp in horizontal position
bracket removed from rack, quick disconnect |
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keithm Newbie
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Posted: Nov 01, 2009 10:22 am Post subject: |
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bimini deployed on boat, the bimini brackets are 7/8.
attach rack bracket to Bimini aft vertical bracket
quick check of rack
Couple of issues:
1. wake board is too far back, would impede entry/exit of boat
2. aft bracket is not all that strong, worry about failure of bimini |
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keithm Newbie
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Posted: Nov 01, 2009 10:22 am Post subject: |
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bracket as clamped to bimini rod
move board to middle bimini bracket
seems better. Can not exit/enter boat with wake board attached except:
1. seems board is too high
2. The bimini support rod system may not be able to support the rack and board
I'll need to fabricate my own 7/8 rod and attach to the boat about this location
stainless steel rod at 6 foot in length, $40 from marine west |
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keithm Newbie
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Posted: Nov 01, 2009 10:23 am Post subject: |
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rod size
use a couple of these stainless mounting bases
vendor markings
mount one here |
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keithm Newbie
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Posted: Nov 01, 2009 10:23 am Post subject: |
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they are pass thru style
mark the spot, center of rail
need to drill 1 inch diameter, need slight clearance size hole, where clearance = Diameter hole > diameter rod
first drill pass |
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keithm Newbie
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Posted: Nov 01, 2009 10:23 am Post subject: |
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final hole size
close-up of 1 inch diameter hole
check base placement
drill holes for base fastener attach |
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keithm Newbie
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Posted: Nov 01, 2009 10:24 am Post subject: |
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all 4x holes drilled
diameter of fastener Metric 4 = .153 inch
drill size .170 inch
use this tool to find grip |
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keithm Newbie
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Posted: Nov 01, 2009 10:24 am Post subject: |
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need to make an Epoxy mix to close-out the exposed fibers of drilled hole
coat the hole with the Epoxy
coat fastener, work in the hole
view from bottom |
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keithm Newbie
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Posted: Nov 01, 2009 10:24 am Post subject: |
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now to make the base, I'll need a non-pass thru style
trim lines
cut with band saw
check hole size with ball gage |
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keithm Newbie
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Posted: Nov 01, 2009 10:25 am Post subject: |
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base plate done
cutting the 7/8 rod to manageable size
deburr end
pass thru rod |
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keithm Newbie
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Posted: Nov 01, 2009 10:25 am Post subject: |
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secure base with stainless steel wood screw right into the boat floor, thru carpet
attach rack
add board
side view
Observations:
The upper bracket seems to be taking too much of the load. Seems to be carrying the moment as a short couple. I'll need to remove the upper bracket and replace with a aluminum guard |
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keithm Newbie
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Posted: Nov 01, 2009 10:26 am Post subject: |
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aluminum sheet to make the guard
template size, based off the bracket
final size, after de-burr guard
installing guard |
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keithm Newbie
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Posted: Nov 01, 2009 10:27 am Post subject: |
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as installed
trim rod again and de-burr
add wakeboard rack bracket to rod
attach wake board rack |
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keithm Newbie
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Posted: Nov 01, 2009 10:27 am Post subject: |
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aft view with wake board attached
forward 1/4 view
forward view
from back left seat |
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keithm Newbie
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Posted: Nov 01, 2009 10:27 am Post subject: |
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from drivers seat, little loss in visibility
rod and bracket with bimini installed
bimini with rack, plenty of room to enter/exit boat
view from back of boat, standing on aft deck |
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keithm Newbie
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Posted: Nov 01, 2009 10:28 am Post subject: |
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wake overhangs enough so no wake drainage will get into boat
fwd 1/4 view
fwd view
side view, room to enter exit boat, does not effect docking of boat |
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keithm Newbie
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Posted: Nov 01, 2009 10:28 am Post subject: |
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bimini stowed, no issues
bimini down, no issues
Review, observations and lessons learned:
1. The 175 does not allow wake board storage in ski locker
2. The final installed rod and attach system is very robust. I can pull my full weight on the rack without rack/rod deflection.
3. Little loss in visibility.
4. No entry/exit issues
5. Although I have not tried out the system, that review will need to occur spring/summer, 2010.
Enjoy,
Keithm |
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Okie Boarder Ladies Man
Joined: 03 Mar 2008 Posts: 10056 City: Edmond
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Posted: Nov 01, 2009 11:10 am Post subject: |
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Looks pretty good. The only issue I can see is in use when you approach docks and want to tie up with other boats. That would be something to be careful about.
What did your total cost and hours come out to? _________________ If love is blind, why is lingerie so popular? |
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Brit Rider Wakeboarder.com Freak
Joined: 29 Mar 2004 Posts: 3347 City: Cheshire, England
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kartman Wakeboarder.Commie
Joined: 29 Oct 2008 Posts: 1542 City: meridian, Idaho
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Posted: Nov 02, 2009 8:08 am Post subject: |
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saw this over on the BOC. great job. _________________ trying to find a $5-7K usable saltare if anyone knows of one. |
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keithm Newbie
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Posted: Nov 05, 2009 10:44 am Post subject: |
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Brit Rider wrote: | Looks like a fun project....
May I ask what stops the thing spinning 360 when under way? |
I gave quite abit of thought about the various translations loads (side to side, fore-aft, and up-down) and rotations (pitch, roll, and yaw) the brackect/pole would need to transfer to the boat. The yaw moment is the weakest of all the load environmnets. To resist "spinning" I drilled 2x small pilot holes in the CRES 7/8 support tube. The set screws of the base bracket will rest in these pilot holes. I have not field tested the function of the rack, but it will support my weight. If it spins I can add additional anti-rotational supports easily.
Keithm |
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chawk610 Addict
Joined: 06 Jul 2010 Posts: 668 City: Fort Worth
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Posted: Aug 06, 2010 1:21 pm Post subject: |
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Dang... lots of work... but looks great! _________________ '08 Mobius LS |
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aubierider Newbie
Joined: 16 Jul 2014 Posts: 1
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Posted: Jul 17, 2014 12:20 pm Post subject: is it working well? |
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Hi there,
This is really cool... i'm looking to do the same on my 18.5 foot bayliner... how is it working out? any issues?
thanks for replying |
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