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MaddogMoney Newbie

Joined: 12 Apr 2004 Posts: 41 City: Dallas
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Posted: Dec 12, 2005 8:49 am Post subject: boat pulls to the right |
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I've got a 1988 Sierra Supreme (20' inboard w/Chrysler 360 - 280hp). This boat has been in my family since my dad bought it new in 1989.
After taking the boat out for the first run of the season in May, I discovered that the stringers were rotten. I took it to a highly recommended fiberglass shop in the area and had the stringers and transom replaced.
Between work, school, and family (and needing to replace the battery and alternator), I didn't get the boat back on the water until October. Of course, the first thing I did was hit something in the water and bend the drive shaft and prop, and break the strut out of the bottom of the boat. I hadn't even gotten her over 20 mph when this happened.
Back to the fiberglass shop to have the shaft replaced, the prop reworked, and the fiberglass repaired (thanks Progressive).
Now that I have the boat back, the faster I go, the harder I have to turn against the boat. The boat really wants to go right...the faster I go, the more right it wants to go. I almost feel like I have to wrestle with it. In the past, you definitely didn't want to take your hand off the wheel at 40 mph, but now you have to have both hands on the wheel at anything over 25.
Anyone else have any experiences like this? Is this normal? Should it be like this?
Any input would be welcome.
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acurtis_ttu Soul Rider

Joined: 16 Aug 2004 Posts: 499 City: Houston
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Posted: Dec 12, 2005 9:24 am Post subject: |
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| that does not sound normal. Did you check the skegs? one could be bent slightly? |
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snowboardcorey Soul Rider

Joined: 29 Jan 2003 Posts: 411 City: minneapolis
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Posted: Dec 12, 2005 11:02 am Post subject: |
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Sounds like you damaged the rudder during your crash. Have it checked out, it may be as simple as getting it filed a bit or it may need to be replaced. _________________ www.midwestmastercraft.com
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MaddogMoney Newbie

Joined: 12 Apr 2004 Posts: 41 City: Dallas
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Posted: Dec 12, 2005 1:36 pm Post subject: |
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I looked at the tracking fins (I assume this is what you were referring to when you said skegs) and didn't see any damage. However, I haven't checked them with a straight edge or anything.
| snowboardcorey wrote: | | Sounds like you damaged the rudder during your crash. Have it checked out, it may be as simple as getting it filed a bit or it may need to be replaced. |
Thanks for the suggestion. There was a small ding on the rudder from the accident, so I hadn't thought anything of it. On the insurance claim filed by the shop, it states "Press/Repair Rudder" and "Straighten Rudder Post". I'll call the shop and ask exactly what was done and try to find out what I can.
Would changing the pitch of the prop effect this? I've lost about 5 mph off the top end (47 mph to 42 mph per GPS) but I've definitely gained some pull at the bottom end. |
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boarditup Addict

Joined: 01 Dec 2003 Posts: 731 City: Allendale, MI
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Posted: Dec 12, 2005 2:18 pm Post subject: |
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Chances are the rudder is not 90 degrees from the hull, but off just a bit. The glass job may have also affected the "hook" in the aft hull. The lower pitch prop will do exactly as expected.
I would bet on the slightly bent rudder. The speed sensitive nature is typical of a bent rudder. I suggest a new replacment and that should correct the problem. Typically, you want a little steering bias to either the right or left (personal preferance, but typically right) so it is easier to keep a straight line with a rider swinging. _________________ Original Boarder from 1983
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Brit Rider Wakeboarder.com Freak


Joined: 29 Mar 2004 Posts: 3347 City: Cheshire, England
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Posted: Dec 13, 2005 5:49 am Post subject: |
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boarditup, Seconded,
But IMO you should be able to have the rudder re-worked a lot cheaper if its not to far past saving... Go to a trusted place.
Just my 2 cents _________________ www.AxisBoats.co.uk | www.Malibu-Boats.co.uk |
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MaddogMoney Newbie

Joined: 12 Apr 2004 Posts: 41 City: Dallas
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Posted: Dec 13, 2005 9:21 am Post subject: |
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| boarditup wrote: | | Chances are the rudder is not 90 degrees from the hull, but off just a bit. |
I see on the invoice that they worked on the rudder port. If this were reinstalled incorrectly (or just not perfectly) could this cause the rudder to be at a bad angle to the hull and cause this pulling?
The original accident: I think I actually hit a piece of re-bar (metal rod used to reinforce concrete construction) in my marina while in reverse. The damage to the rudder was no more than a scratch on the leading edge, but the prop was bent on the trailing edge and the drive shaft was definitely bent. Also, there were lots of new cracks in the gel coat around the strut.
New question for the mix. While driving the boat at 30+, I have to dial in an extra quarter turn on the steering wheel to the left to keep the boat from going right. It's like I'm turning the boat left to keep it going straight. Because of this, the boat leans left as if I were in a wide left turn which really screws up the wake (never mind the fact that the boat is leaning left). Is this still indicative of a rudder problem?
Thanks for the help. |
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boarditup Addict

Joined: 01 Dec 2003 Posts: 731 City: Allendale, MI
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Posted: Dec 13, 2005 11:56 am Post subject: |
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Very typical of the rudder being off (canted to one side). The "bushing" that "holds" the rudder shaft may be off and the rudder may be true as well. It may be that the rebar was caught by the prop and jammed against the rudder - bending the shaft or the "bushing."
Get a large angle duplicator and check it against both sides of the rudder against the boat hull. It should be equal. Even 2-3 degrees off will do what you are describing. _________________ Original Boarder from 1983
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MaddogMoney Newbie

Joined: 12 Apr 2004 Posts: 41 City: Dallas
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Posted: Dec 13, 2005 3:24 pm Post subject: |
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| boarditup wrote: | | Get a large angle duplicator... |
I had no idea such a tool existed! It makes sense! I'll get one tonight and get over to the boat and check it out as soon as I get a kitchen pass.
Thanks to everyone for the thoughts and suggestions. I'll let you know how it turns out. |
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KristianB Outlaw


Joined: 21 May 2003 Posts: 141 City: Stockholm, Sweden
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Posted: Dec 27, 2005 3:22 pm Post subject: |
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And the verdict was????
/K |
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