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PostPosted: Dec 07, 2005 4:23 pm    Post subject: Tantrum help..idea (diagram) Reply with quote

i have been trying to try the tantrum for a while and i have read up/ listened to any advice on the tantrum, but no matter how much stuff i study about it, when i get behind the boat in postion to throw the tantrum, i get scared or something.. So ive been thinking. If i pull a tube, stand on the tube without my wakeboard (i have my wake rope with me and it is the same length as the tube rope) and do a tantrum motion into the water (backflip off the tube with the wake rope) do you think it will be helpfull?

http://quick.imgfree.net/images/5158.jpg < diagram of my idea

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PostPosted: Dec 07, 2005 4:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think it will be funny. be sure to get it on film.
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PostPosted: Dec 07, 2005 7:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't be scared, the worst i've done is knock the wind out of me, and that just takes a second to get back. BE STRONG! and if you want to work on rotation, do backflips off your boat/tramp. g'luck!
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PostPosted: Dec 08, 2005 12:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

wknebraskaweber, that will just end up getting you hurt. Please film it!

On your tantrum, take and aggressive cut in, and when you think your gonna have to "trip", wait a second. Ride all the way up the wake and then shift the board parallel to the wake. Kick your head back and open your chest to the sky. then pull you knees up to your chest and spot your landing.
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PostPosted: Dec 08, 2005 6:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It would be better to just try it with a wakeskate.
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PostPosted: Dec 08, 2005 10:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

what you should do is hold a wakeskate and try to land it. That would be pretty cool.

I think it would help you more to get comfortable with a backflip on a trampoline or a diving board. Being comfortable upside down is a big part of it.

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PostPosted: Dec 08, 2005 11:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i dunno about the tube thing.. i got some nice wiplash practicing some tricks off the wakeskate. just go out there and huck it
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PostPosted: Dec 09, 2005 3:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah dude, just gotta go balls out and throw it. The first time i ever tried one, i had 3 energy drinks immediately before getting on the boat. Also, there were 4 really, REALLY hot chicks on there w/ a bunch of my friends. So they told me to throw a backflip (tantrum). I can do backflips on the tramp no problem, and i can even do them on the ground, so i figured it wouldn't be that hard. Also, i wanted to impress the ladies on there. So, i just cut in and did my best attempt at a tantrum.............................let's just say i ate crap. But still, after that, it wasn't so bad, and now i can land em all the time, no prob.
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PostPosted: Dec 09, 2005 10:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

2 problems I see with trying it off of a tube:

1. when throwing your body up into the air, youre more than likely going to slide the tube out over the water, meaning that when you push your legs out, the tube wont have any traction on the water.

2. When considering possibility number 1, there is no way to get enough height or thrust to finish the rotation. So unless youre Bruce Lee, or maybe even a close friend of the family, youre going to end up on your head.

Good luck with that!!!

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PostPosted: Dec 21, 2005 8:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

RufioSwashbuckle, lol
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PostPosted: Dec 22, 2005 2:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

RufioSwashbuckle, to right me and my matesd tried it and tube just slid out in front of us and we always landed doing mad face plants
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PostPosted: Dec 22, 2005 1:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dude cmon just go out and throw it, ive found if you sike yourself up to much youl never land it, just go out and things will naturally come together
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PostPosted: Dec 22, 2005 1:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

o yea one more thing, remember its only water, think about snowboarders and bmx riders and all those other guys who flip, i promise you those falls hurt alot worse than wakeboard crashes
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PostPosted: Dec 31, 2005 6:03 pm    Post subject: Tantrum Reply with quote

just remember to trip your board when hitting the wake
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PostPosted: Jan 01, 2006 9:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

wknebraskaweber, it looks like your risking alot more injury by trying to bring a tube into the ordeal.
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PostPosted: Jan 04, 2006 2:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dizzyj wrote:
I think it will be funny. be sure to get it on film.


i 2nd that. do it just for entertainment purposes. classic JACKASS stunt.
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PostPosted: May 03, 2006 8:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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o yea one more thing, remember its only water, think about snowboarders and bmx riders and all those other guys who flip, i promise you those falls hurt alot worse than wakeboard crashes



Snowboarding 5 years.. wakeboarding 2 years.. 5 times broke wrists, Collerbone 2 times, 3 concushions and a continusly broken tailbone.... Still would perfer to take a nasty crash on snow then water anyday.. I dono about you guys but that sting is the only pain that really gets to me haha. But id rather throw it with a board on then off a tube?
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PostPosted: May 03, 2006 9:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bernardshow, i disagree, but i suppose it depends on the type of fall. Both sports have their moments and ways you can easily get hurt pretty badly. But the jumps are getting so big in snowboarding that the consequences of falling are starting to become almost too gnarly.
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PostPosted: May 03, 2006 11:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i wanna see him just try and stay standing on the tube while the boat is going.

what would that be? aggressive tubing?

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PostPosted: May 04, 2006 8:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

MAn that is the worst idea ever...that will hurt a lot more than just doing it on a wakeboard...try on a trampolien first....
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PostPosted: May 07, 2006 3:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ill pay u money to make a video doing it off a tube lol
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PostPosted: May 09, 2006 5:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

all you need are girls in the boat, then you will try it.....everyone knows that
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PostPosted: May 09, 2006 7:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

go to the local pool & do back flips off of the diving board...that'll get you used to making the rotation. Moving (i.e. being on the tube) wont be any different than this, except for the handle, & if you want that feeling then use a trampoline. Otherwise, i think everyone else has summed up what ya need to do when ya get on the board...
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PostPosted: May 11, 2006 11:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I always thought of trying this...

Go up to the wake and once your in the air, just let go of the rope, and concentrate on making your board hit before your face. Smile

Your hands are also great for slowing your impact into the water.

Smile

Also, Just think about how proud you'll be once the first time is over!

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PostPosted: May 11, 2006 11:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cajun wrote:
Old name got deleted...

I always thought of trying this...

Go up to the wake and once your in the air, just let go of the rope, and concentrate on making your board hit before your face. Smile

Your hands are also great for slowing your impact into the water.

Smile

Also, Just think about how proud you'll be once the first time is over!


and think about how pissed youll be when you land it and dont have the rope in your hand cause you thoguht you wouldnt land it. just huck it.

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PostPosted: May 14, 2006 12:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cajun, that is the WORST idea I have ever heard! Any invert is easier to land with the rope in your hand!

wknebraskaweber, that is the BEST idea I have ever heard!! There is no merrit what so ever from a wakeboarding perspective but damn would it be funny!

This thread has really had me laughing!! It really needs some video!
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PostPosted: May 18, 2006 6:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok. I'm gonna throw a little physics at ya. When you're standing on the tube... you're body is going as fast as the boat is pulling you. Unless the rope and handle you are holding are tight (as in you might have to lean back to get tension) the second your body jumps off the tube you go from 21mph (or however fast the boat is going) to zero! the rope and handle on the other hand is still traveling that fast so if there is slack in it..... well you can imagine your body going zero to 21mph with a nice snap on your arm! OUCH!!! don't do that.
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PostPosted: May 18, 2006 6:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

jmb26x,

jmb26x wrote:
the second your body jumps off the tube you go from 21mph (or however fast the boat is going) to zero!


Google: "newton's first law"
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PostPosted: May 18, 2006 7:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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jmb26x,

jmb26x wrote:
the second your body jumps off the tube you go from 21mph (or however fast the boat is going) to zero!


Google: "newton's first law"


haha, i was just gonna say that.

"object in motion tends to stay in motion with the same speed and in the same direction unless acted upon by an unbalanced force."


if the boat was going 25mph, and you jumped off the side, your going to land in the water alongside the boat. because even though you jump off, your body is going the same speed. until you hit the water.

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PostPosted: May 18, 2006 9:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I see eardrum rupture in your future if you try it off a tube.

Feet enter water, body sideways, ear and side of face hit water at 21. . Shocked ouch.

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