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Flipsell.com Founder needs a $10k - $15k boat.
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PostPosted: Nov 01, 2005 3:25 pm    Post subject: Flipsell.com Founder needs a $10k - $15k boat. Reply with quote

Okay, the time has come for somebody to help out a brother. I started Flipsell.com back in 1999 because there were no wakeboard/ski boat specific sites online for poor guys like me to find a boat. Since then I've run the site free to all - free to list, free to contact sellers, and free to post photos. 6 Years later, and countless monthly payments to a webhosting company, my charity business model has continued to run strong, steadily bleeding me out. Anyway, I still do it because I believe that the only way to get a lot of buyers and sellers in our industry together is to do it free. We wakeboarders are a bunch of cheap guys!

So I've now gone two seasons without a boat while I built my house. These were the last two seasons I'll ever go without a boat. I now have a budget of up to $12,000 or so to buy back in (I'd have more, but those cheap wakeboarders don't pay to list their boats on my site!). I need a true inboard or V-Drive, preferably equipped with a tower, and I'm married now, so it needs to be somewhat clean - no ghetto boats please. If you have the perfect ski boat with a super flat wake, you need not apply. Big fat wakes only, please. I'm located in New Jersey, but I'm not afraid of travelling to pick up my new addition. If anyone out there wants to extend me an offer, send me photos and details to brad@jclayton.com Help me help you. Thank you all, and good night.
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PostPosted: Nov 01, 2005 6:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://boats.com/index.jsp

Hope that helps... There's a few good deals on there Smile

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PostPosted: Nov 01, 2005 8:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

haha thats low.
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PostPosted: Nov 02, 2005 5:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

boats.com... qnev you suck. No love in this industry. I think I need to hang out with the Air Chair guys.

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PostPosted: Nov 02, 2005 6:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

When you say fatty wake with that price range you know the boat that comes to evyerone's mind. So why don't you just go ahead and start looking at 2001 SN. If it doesn't have a tower on it monster towers is only a call away. Plus they are a price point product too. I know I've posted before I didn't care for monster but that is only because they don't fit the style of my boat. However they are on of the better looking towers on a 2001 SN IMO. The only better deal I've ever heard of, when it comes to a fatty wake with that price, was not long ago someone bought a 95 Malibu with one of the recent Wakesetter hulls on it. I've yet to see another.
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PostPosted: Nov 02, 2005 6:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm all for the 2001, but I was hoping to sacrifice a little on wake to get either a bow rider or wraparound seating with a V-drive. I would like to be able to fit a few extra people on board - kids are probably next on the wife's list of things she wants...
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PostPosted: Nov 02, 2005 7:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

if you want a bow rider then go for a supra sunsport or mariah or saltair(sp?)
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PostPosted: Nov 02, 2005 7:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You might be able to find a somewhat decent Prostar 205 for that price.
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PostPosted: Nov 02, 2005 7:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mikey27 is right, but rumor has it only the 96 hull and up has the 2006 X1 hull. Might want to cheak that out.
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PostPosted: Nov 02, 2005 7:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

bsclayton, you're going to have a hard time finding an open bow V-drive for $15k. The only option comes to mind would be an early '90s Nautique Excel. There aren't that many out there. It has a very similar hull to the 2001 with a playpen open bow and V-drive. For $15k is going to be tough to squeeze a tower in there though.

The only option you might have for an open bow DD in the $12k range are those late '80s Supras. I doubt you could find a Sport Nautique or PS 205 in decent condition for $12k.

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PostPosted: Nov 02, 2005 8:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Excel is what I figured I end up with, but finding a clean one seems more difficult. I can up the ante if necessary, but I'm trying not to. I also want to leave enough $$ on the table for a jet ski for wakeskating in shallow water.
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PostPosted: Nov 02, 2005 8:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Even a late 80's early 90's Sunsetter is going to be close to your budget. If you can find them, they're nice.
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PostPosted: Nov 02, 2005 8:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There is a pretty nice Excel on flipsell/planetnautique right now (in VA) for $15.9 with a titan tower. Looks like its in great shapeand you might be able to haggle him down a little. I also ran across several on boattrader.com. Its the only V-drive I know of that you'll find anywhere near 15k.

I agree w/sunsports as well, but heard they can have woodrot problems in the early models due to a design flaw....I don't know for sure but be careful. I've seen a few 89-93 sport nautiques and PS205s in the 10-15k range but not many and most needed work. If you're willing to sacrafice looks you can find CC martiniques for under $10k and I've heard they throw pretty nice wakes.....they're just kinda ugly.
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PostPosted: Nov 02, 2005 10:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There is a Correct Craft Excel in the classifieds. It is somewhere in pages 1-4. Sorry I don't have the link.
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PostPosted: Nov 02, 2005 10:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://forums.wakeboarder.com/viewtopic.php?t=50305 here is one to add to your shopping list.

bremsen, this the one you were talking about?
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PostPosted: Nov 02, 2005 10:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

SouthWaker wrote:
bremsen, this the one you were talking about?


yup....thats the one. He's got it advertised all over....EORG.com, PN.com, CCfan.com flipsell. Surprisingly there are like 4 on boattrader right now also.
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PostPosted: Nov 02, 2005 11:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There's a BEAUTIFUL '95 Prostar 190 with ballast and a tower in the classifieds. It's a bit more money than you want to spend but wow, it's immaculate.

Where are you in Jersey? I'm in Rockland county NY (see sig).
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PostPosted: Nov 02, 2005 12:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'll take a look at the Prostar - I'm in Brick, NJ (By Point Pleasant, Belmar). If you need a pull next season, just let me know. Most of your NYC crowd ends up in our area, so I'm sure you'll find your way down at some point. As for making me look good in front of the chicks, you'll need to submit your trick list in writing three days prior to any visit so that I can confirm that you will in fact make me look good. If your moves far outweigh mine, we can always put you on a kneeboard to even the playing field...
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PostPosted: Nov 02, 2005 12:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

190 Prostars are a good boat. Some people don't know how to weight them and they like to talk crap about them. I'm not saying they are a X-star wake either though.
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PostPosted: Nov 02, 2005 1:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SouthWaker, PS190 is a good boat but not a good wake. With a lot of weight they can throw a decent wake (better than most i/os) but the freeboard is not high enough to put enough weight in there to come anywhere close to any of the boats listed above (Nautiques, PS205, Supra). They are just too well suited for skiing and small wakes.
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PostPosted: Nov 02, 2005 1:38 pm    Post subject: Re: Flipsell.com Founder needs a $10k - $15k boat. Reply with quote

bsclayton wrote:
I now have a budget of up to $12,000.... I need a true inboard or V-Drive....... Big fat wakes only, please. .............I would like to be able to fit a few extra people on board - kids are probably next on the wife's list of things she wants...



Am I not reading his posts correctly?.....I don't get it.....a $20k closed bow PS190? What in the above would lead anyone to think that is what he is looking for? Confused
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PostPosted: Nov 02, 2005 2:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wakebrad, you totally just restated everything I said. I will agree abunch of weight is needed most will say around 1500lbs for the 190. Which then again some of the bigger boats require more weight than that. It is just they have room to put it without it being visable.
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PostPosted: Nov 02, 2005 5:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

the nauqique excel does not have a similair hull to the old 2001 at all. It shares its hull with the Martinique, barefoot nautique and kinda with the fish nautique.
very deep V. throws a decent wake though.

I saw a 93 sport nautique for sale recently for 13k. (on boattrader...)
that boat has the same hull as the Super air, but it is a DD.

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PostPosted: Nov 02, 2005 6:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I saw that one, but I was holding out for a V... just found one for 14 with an open bow, but as you would expect, it sold instantly. Fockers.
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PostPosted: Nov 02, 2005 7:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You just got to keep an eye out is all, but it going into winter now is the prime time to be looking for some good deals.
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PostPosted: Nov 02, 2005 7:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bsclayton wrote:
I'll take a look at the Prostar - I'm in Brick, NJ (By Point Pleasant, Belmar). If you need a pull next season, just let me know. Most of your NYC crowd ends up in our area, so I'm sure you'll find your way down at some point. As for making me look good in front of the chicks, you'll need to submit your trick list in writing three days prior to any visit so that I can confirm that you will in fact make me look good. If your moves far outweigh mine, we can always put you on a kneeboard to even the playing field...


Laughing put em on the kneeskiier! Laughing You are right about the wintertime prices... good luck, I hope you find the perfect boat.... at least for the price, we all know that the perfect boat would be personalized out the wazoooo and would cost an unimaginable sum Evil or Very Mad Laughing

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PostPosted: Nov 03, 2005 11:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Another option:
http://www.actionmarine.com/cardealertools/vehiclelistings.asp?page_size=1&current_page=27
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PostPosted: Nov 03, 2005 11:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Any comments on that as a ski boat? Wake, etc?
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PostPosted: Nov 04, 2005 2:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can pick up a maxum 210ss for around $17k. These are 22 foot, v drives with the mercruiser 350 engine and are loaded with heater, shower, depth guage, cd player, pop up cleats etc.

I have one and the wake is excellent, they handle great and are awsome boats for the money.

A pic of mine can be found here : http://www.bwspc.plus.com/boat.JPG
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Ijayc, Isn't that a I/O and not a Vdrive
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PostPosted: Nov 04, 2005 8:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

spinnintowin, actually it is a V-drive
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PostPosted: Nov 06, 2005 5:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

CHECK THIS BOAT OUT. http://www.flipsell.com/Phase3/home/DispVehicle.asp?VehicleID=8391 YOU'LL HAVE MONEY LEFT OVER FOR A TOWER.
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PostPosted: Nov 06, 2005 7:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I actually looked at that one a while back (not in person, though). I couldn't really get any confirmation that the wake was decent, and people seemed to complain that there was no storage space for weight with the integrated platform in back. ANy former owners out there have any comments?
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PostPosted: Nov 07, 2005 1:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

For 10-15K pick up an early to mid 90s Supra Sunsport, drop a launch pad on either side of the engine, a waterbed mattress in the back storage compartment and another under the front seats and you have yourself a Supra Launch wake. I had a '96, solid fiberglass construction, strong engine, tower and board racks and sold it earlier this year for 15k. If you want one of the best wakes available from a DD with more room than any other DD, check out the Supra Sunsport.
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PostPosted: Nov 07, 2005 3:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thats real cheap...dont know if you'll find what your lookin for at that price
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