HS Roll 2 Blind help

[holdsworth]

i tried this tonight, didn't land it, but i didn't feel comfortable doing it...any tips?

thanks in advance.

[K-wood Kid]

I'm working on this trick as well and all I ever hear is do it mexi roll, pass the handle as early as possible and try to land over your toes more and land edging away from the wake.

[holdsworth]

K-wood Kid, i'm doing it as a mexi roll...it's just weird where i am in the air. i think i will work on the trampoline a little bit to understand what is going on. i was hoping to land this and try a KGB by the end of the year, but i don't know yet.

[Thomas P.]

edge in slow and kick HARD at the wake to go up. then mexi roll to start, but quickly yank handle in and slightly up to make sure to not hunch your back (this will hang you up on the pass)then spot the shorre line and get set for a chest up toe edge landing to not slip out on landings. that should do it.

[natxbrotha]

a buddy of mine told me to throw your whole body into the trick (if that makes sense) in addition to all the tips mentioned above. and really look in the direction you want to spin. and let the boat do the edging, so you have less line tension. if you edge to hard into the wake there will be too much line tension to get the handle... thats where im stuck right now.

[pbfoot]

do u have a clip of it or a pic?

[Adam Greer]

i have one in my gallery.
You really want to come in slow like Thomas P. and load the rope hard up the wake. When you are comming up the wake really start going mexican and start pushing that back foot up the wake. At the same time i like to start pushing the handle to up past the front of my waist. Then once you are a little past half to 3/4 of the way around start looking blind and get in the correct body position (i land mine wrapped). Don't turn your head too much b/c you will over rotate the spin. Try landing looking back at the wake a ways back if you can. Alot of people have trouble throwing the trick too hard and over rotating, you really don't have to edge much to get the flip rotation
I have a video of one in my gallary if you think it may help to check it out

[K-wood Kid]

Adam you seem to do the spin a little later. Some times I see people doing it like off the wake and thats how I've been trying them. It helps me spot the water more and pass the handle.

[holdsworth]

i will probably try it both ways, late and early. i think i would do better a little later, but then i would start to learn to go early to work on a kgb.

Adam Greer, thanks a lot.

[Adam Greer]

yup, you have to do it diff for the KGB, but i think landing wraped and going late has more style if you are just gona do the roll to blind.

ohio_wake_2008 no problem man, just let me know if you need some more help and i will see what i can do...

[K-wood Kid]

Adam your right about the style stuff but man I gotta land it before I worry about style. Haha well I'm goin to ride tomorrow and try it a few times. I'm going to try a few roll 2 blinds and then a few wrapped KGB's and see what feels more comfortable. Also a roll 2 blind is kind of similiar to a tootsie roll in my mind. Any tips on that? Not to steal the thread just to lazy to start my own.

[holdsworth]

K-wood Kid, i can change the title if you want...for both tricks.


ever try a ts roll 2 blind, anyone? i have, but i lost it somehow and i can't get the handle anymore. haha. i will work on it later in the season though.

[K-wood Kid]

I've tried one wrapped ts roll to blind and hated the whole movement. It was just wierd. I'd rather just do a Pete

[holdsworth]

K-wood Kid, it is a weird movement, but that might have to do with you trying it wrapped. i don't like wrapped tricks at all since you don't get to learn the trick the harder way, i guess, and i just don't like it. i didn't get a wrap handle, either, back in july on vacation because i knew i wouldn't use it at all.

i still need to work on the pete rose...i haven't been boarding all this week due to soccer makin me worn out a lot.

[K-wood Kid]

My knee has been bothering me alot lately after some hard falls last weekend mixed in with various skateboarding falls throughout the week. Its swollen up and is started to hurt even when I'm just walking so I think I tore something up. Also I dont have a wrap handle either I just tried it anyway. It wasn't that I was wrapped it was the rotation. I can do a pete off a kicker and I'm working on it behind the boat. But its def. easy that a g-spot IMHO

[Adam Greer]

Yea i learned my wraped, or passing the handle as i landed i couldn't do the early handle pass.

I can help with pete roses too man if you need some help ohio_wake_2008

As far as t/s rolls to blind, it is really weird felling. Have yall tried grabing nuclear? It really makes your body turn towards the handle more, even if you don't get the grab it gets your body going the right direction......

[K-wood Kid]

Adam I cant even grab nuke on a ts b roll better yet grab then pass to blind. Only thing I have trouble with on my pete is the grab so tech I'm just doing a ts b roll fs 3 but who cares right.

[Adam Greer]

yea you dont have to get it or really even come close, i gave up pretty quick though on it to.

What happens when you are trying to grab the board?

[holdsworth]

i don't know if i will try anytyhing new anymore since i messed up my arm a little bit. we will see how it goes.

[K-wood Kid]

When I try to grab I usually over rotate (caused by ducking to grab board) and miss the handle because I try to rush the pass after the grab. I know what I'm doing wrong but its just going to take awhile to fix it. Also anyone have any recommendations on a knee brace. I went up to Oshmanns super sports store to buy one and I tested alot of them out and if I barely hopped off the ground with the brace on I still got the same instant pain. Its like the outside of my lead knee.

[Thomas P.]

the cti2 is a good brace, what all the bad-kneed pros use. only problem with those is theyre a custom fit and about $1200.