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HatzicMotive140
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 Posted: Aug 14, 2005 9:28 pm Post subject: cable park starting? |
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| ok i ahve watched these vid of people riding the cable parks but they are going really fast and I am guessing it works sorta like a chairlift where the chairs jsut go in a circle...but how do you start, i mean how do yuo get the handle? also does the rope slow down or something so it doent get ripped out of your hands when yuo are starting? |
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david-d
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| Posted: Aug 14, 2005 9:44 pm Post subject: |
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| Ok, well to start, there has to be an open handle. So when someone falls, the handle is brought around and put aside, so it's no longer being pulled by a hook on the cable. Then the handle is given to you, and when the hook comes back around on the circle of cable, it grabs the rope and you start going. I hope that didn't sound too confusing. Just go and check one out for yourself. |
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HatzicMotive140
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| Posted: Aug 14, 2005 9:46 pm Post subject: |
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| haha sorta hard...considering i am up in canada, and the closest one is either in toronto or in cali....i dont think i will be goign to one anytime soon hahaha. thanks....is the rop jsut set in a device that as the cable comes around it hooks onto the rope? |
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david-d
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| Posted: Aug 14, 2005 9:49 pm Post subject: |
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| Yeah exactly think of it as a Ski Lift Midway load station. When a chair comes loaded with people to a midway load station, you dont get on, you wait for the empty chair, and when it comes, the gates open up and you go. So in this scenario you play as the rope and the chairlift that is empty plays as the cable hook. |
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Craig-R
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| Posted: Aug 14, 2005 9:51 pm Post subject: |
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| david-d wrote: | | Yeah exactly think of it as a Ski Lift Midway load station. When a chair comes loaded with people to a midway load station, you dont get on, you wait for the empty chair, and when it comes, the gates open up and you go. So in this scenario you play as the rope and the chairlift that is empty plays as the cable hook. |
boy david-d, before now i didnt understand how cable parks worked but thanks to this explanation i know exactly how they operate! |
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david-d
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| Posted: Aug 14, 2005 9:52 pm Post subject: |
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| Haha no problem man thats what I'm here for. Just think of me as a midway load station, and you as the skier. I give you help getting up that mountain, which metaphorically would be any question you ask. |
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ontrider
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| Posted: Aug 15, 2005 7:42 am Post subject: |
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| HatzicMotive140 wrote: | | haha sorta hard...considering i am up in canada, and the closest one is either in toronto or in cali |
Jeez... I wish someone would've told me there's a park in T.O.!  |
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HatzicMotive140
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| Posted: Aug 15, 2005 8:26 pm Post subject: |
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| Ok and now for my next question. how do you get massive air like in some of the movies, i see them cut out really hard, but i dont understand how they go that high...can someone explain how that happens? |
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pooser
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| Posted: Aug 15, 2005 8:37 pm Post subject: |
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ontrider, ya i wish i would have known there was one in cali, ive been dying to ride cable.
its about loading the line. i think most of the air tricks are done around corners where you can get a lot of speed and kinda get whipped into the air. the cable system also woks like a really high tower giving you a lot of upward pull. |
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Londoner
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| Posted: Aug 16, 2005 1:21 am Post subject: |
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| The Headless Chicken wrote: | ontrider, ya i wish i would have known there was one in cali, ive been dying to ride cable.
its about loading the line. i think most of the air tricks are done around corners where you can get a lot of speed and kinda get whipped into the air. the cable system also woks like a really high tower giving you a lot of upward pull. |
The cable is higher in the corners too. This is from the old jbwaterski.co.uk site, I can't find a tips section on their new site:
Cable Trick Tips from JB Waterski
The Back Roll
One of the 'easiest' inverts is a Back Roll. As with all inverted tricks the set up is everything.
The Set-up:
By this stage of your Wakeboarding, you should be very confident in edging your board. Edging into the trick is the key to landing it. With a back roll the cut needs to be slow at first and get progressively harder (As with so much in life). Practice this a number of times before trying to throw the trick. Once you are confident that you have achieved a good progressive cut you are ready to actually attempt the trick.
The 'Gauge'
This is the point where the men are separated from the boys, or the chicks from the geezer chicks.
At the hardest point of your cut, you should have loaded the line sufficiently to send you high enough to get all the way around and now all that is left is to harness the tension you have achieved.
With the back roll, the best way to get airborne is to stay on the heel edge and "spoon" the board out of the water whilst driving your shoulders up and backwards (away from the pull of the cable). At this point you need to twist your shoulders and hips to the right and look over your right shoulder (this is assuming you ride right foot forward). It is very important to keep your handle as close to your hips as you can in order for you to rotate quickly enough, both in the cut and in the air. If you let your handle out, you will not rotate and eat swell!
The Landing
If you have got this far, all respect too you. You have got in the air which is more than most people ever do.
The landing is obviously a 'crucial' part of the trick and I don't mean Ally G Staines
massive crucial. As you come out of the back roll rotation, try to spot your landing over your right shoulder whilst still pulling your handle into your right hip. You must take all the impact through your knees so as not to bounce on the landing. Lots of people tend to shy away onto their back foot when learning to land inverts, but YOU WILL NOT!
SO now you've landed a back roll, the women (or the blokes, sorry girls) are literally flocking around you. What do you do next?
TO THE BAR AT JB WATERSKI where you can join the inverted yard of ale club and carve your name in history!! And then pick up a couple of that flocking mass who aren't too horrific and…. Well you know the rest and if you don't you won't find the tutorial on this website.
The Raley:
Not for the half hearted, the Raley is a more aggressive trick than the back roll and as a result can hurt more.
The Set-up:
As with the Back Roll a progressive cut is the key to getting enough height on the Raley. Start slightly wider than with the Back Roll. If you are right foot forward get about 10 metres inside the cable and turn onto your healside edge slowly, building your cut up. You will need slightly more speed than with the Back Roll and make sure the pressure is even between both feet. If it is not you will find that as you take off you'll fly with all the grace of an out of control helicopter.
The 'Gauge'
Just after you pass underneath the cable you should be thinking about the gauge. With your arms slightly bent and held as close as possible to your hips, drive your shoulders back, directing energy down through your hips, effectively stalling the board in the water. As you release the board the tension on the cable will pull you into the air.
As you have more speed in take off with the Raley the board has a higher tendency to want to suction onto the water's surface leaving you flying through the air minus Wakeboard. To stop this occurring concentrate on keeping your ankles at right angles, if you point your toes your feet will slip straight out the bindings and as you release the gauge compete a small scooping action to help the board release.
Controlling the Flight:
Once you're in the air, don't get too confident, Ok you want to float there for as long as possible fully laid out as you've seen in all the videos, but if you try that on your first attempt, you'll just end up getting an eye pealing face slap. It is important to keep the handle tucked in, with an even pull through both arms. If you pull harder on one you're likely to spin onto your back. Always keep your head up through the trick and be ready to spot your landing.
The landing:
Spot your landing as early as possible when you first start to learn to Raley. As you feel yourself starting to drop, pull your handle into your right hip (assuming your right foot forward), keeping your chest proud (If you don't do this quick enough, you will catch a painful toe side edge. As with the Back Roll you need to absorb the landing with your knees, if you don't the board will bounce out from under you as you hit the water. Easy as that!! This trick can then be adapted to land fakie (Kript) very easily mealy by pulling into the opposite hip, but be sure to keep your hips above the board and land with your weight even on both feet otherwise you will fall out of the back of the board.
These tricks can be esaly adapted to others such as Fronts, Tantrums, blind judges etc. Watch this space for more info, on crowd pleasing tricks. |
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HatzicMotive140
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| Posted: Aug 17, 2005 4:54 pm Post subject: |
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| ok and here is my last question. how much does it cost to ride at a cable park? |
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Londoner
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| Posted: Aug 18, 2005 12:00 am Post subject: |
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| HatzicMotive140 wrote: | | ok and here is my last question. how much does it cost to ride at a cable park? |
At the two parks in London it's around £22 for two hours or £35 for the whole day, plus about £10 to hire a board. I'm not sure how much it is in the US but you lot usually get everything much cheaper so it's probably about the same in dollars. |
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Jaack
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| Posted: Aug 18, 2005 6:16 am Post subject: |
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This is just the thread i was looking for. I rode in cable park 2 times now. And i cant get even 1 feet high. Ok after reading this threat I understood that i have to learn a better progressive edge. But i still have a question. I ride regular stance and in the cable where i ride all the turns are to the left. That means i cant cut the corner on heel side. Does this mean, I wount be able to use the corners advantages because of my stance??
Oh and one more request. does anybody have a video of regular stance rider?
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Londoner
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| Posted: Aug 18, 2005 8:49 am Post subject: |
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| You can do it regular but it's easier goofy or switch if you're regular. Practice riding switch a lot or throw it regular by cutting out on your toes round a corner, then cutting in on your heels and throwing it inside the cable. You could also throw it straight from the dock if you edge hard as soon as you get up. Failing that, there's a clockwise cable in Toulouse, France and hopefully one being built in London later this year! |
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Jaack
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| Posted: Aug 20, 2005 6:21 am Post subject: |
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What is different if I throw it as soon as I get up or if I wait 5s?
Thanks for the advice  |
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DunDunDun
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| Posted: Aug 20, 2005 6:35 am Post subject: |
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| whats a blind judge? |
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Londoner
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| Posted: Aug 21, 2005 11:30 am Post subject: |
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| Jaack wrote: | What is different if I throw it as soon as I get up or if I wait 5s?
Thanks for the advice :wink: |
The closer you are to the pylon, the higher the cable and the stronger the pull. 5s won't make that much difference |
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Londoner
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| Posted: Aug 21, 2005 11:33 am Post subject: |
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| DunDunDun wrote: | | whats a blind judge? |
raley to blind |
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HyperRash
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| Posted: Aug 21, 2005 8:33 pm Post subject: |
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There finally starting a cable park in Reno!!!!!!!!!
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Liquidmx
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| Posted: Aug 21, 2005 8:34 pm Post subject: |
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I like starting out at a cable park. If you time it right, while you are waiting on the dock with the handle in hand lay back and let the rope pull you into a huge air.
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HyperRash
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| Posted: Aug 21, 2005 8:37 pm Post subject: |
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There finally starting a cable park in Reno!!!!!!!!!
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RufioSwashbuckle
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| Posted: Aug 21, 2005 8:38 pm Post subject: |
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anyone know about this cable park in Atlanta? or did I just pull that out the back of me?
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Liquidmx
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| Posted: Aug 21, 2005 11:08 pm Post subject: |
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What RENO, I am there!!! When does it open Hyperrash?
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