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Lyle Soul Rider

Joined: 06 Mar 2003 Posts: 433 City: Lake Oswego
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Posted: Aug 05, 2005 10:01 am Post subject: Tantrum to Trip Flip? |
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So I have been trying to learn a Whirlybird, but have come to the conclusion I have way too much tension in the line when I do it. So after talking to a friend of a friend he said I needed to learn how to do a Tantrum trip flip style to reduce the tension. So for the last couple of weeks I have been trying to really go off my toes and stand straight up when I do a tantrum. It is a serious pain to try to change the way you do a trick if you have been doing it the same way for the last 5 years. Anyway, when I am actually able to do it correctly I go quite a bit higher and just wake to wake. But it seems like about half the time I go really high and land flat on my back. I think I am doing a 180 also because my ribs on my right side are sore (I am regular foot). The flip feels really off axis and slow also. Any tips to reducing the pain, then maybe some tips to help me do it correctly would be nice too  _________________ Skiing made me board,
Lyle
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SouthBoarder Newbie

Joined: 26 Aug 2004 Posts: 48 City: Melbourne
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Posted: Aug 05, 2005 1:42 pm Post subject: |
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| im no pro at tantrums but if ur doin a 180 or 90 or w.e then u need to square more to the wake and make sure to lead a little with your shoulders, but the 180 comes from leaving crooked and the slow spin could be from not keeping the handle in or not leading, maybe thatll help a little |
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holdsworth PityDaFool Who Posts This Much

Joined: 01 May 2003 Posts: 5333 City: Knoxville
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Posted: Aug 05, 2005 7:19 pm Post subject: |
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SouthBoarder, do you even know what a whirlybird is...?  |
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SouthBoarder Newbie

Joined: 26 Aug 2004 Posts: 48 City: Melbourne
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Posted: Aug 05, 2005 8:09 pm Post subject: |
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he said I needed to learn how to do a Tantrum trip flip style to reduce the tension. So for the last couple of weeks I have been trying to really go off my toes and stand straight up when I do a tantrum. It is a serious pain to try to change the way you do a trick if you have been doing it the same way for the last 5 years. Anyway, when I am actually able to do it correctly I go quite a bit higher and just wake to wake. But it seems like about half the time I go really high and land flat on my back. I think I am doing a 180 also because my ribs on my right side are sore (I am regular foot). The flip feels really off axis and slow also. Any tips to reducing the pain, then maybe some tips to help me do it correctly would be nice too
can u read he said hes trying to trip them more and he said he was doing a 180 or underroating and ive had similar problems so i was offereing my help, a whirly is a tantrum with an overhead 3 im not retarted and im not gonna pretented to know how to do those but seriously read what he needs help with |
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BelmontWake Soul Rider

Joined: 16 Mar 2005 Posts: 278
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Posted: Aug 05, 2005 11:26 pm Post subject: |
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ohio_wake_2008, did you even take the time to read the first post...?  |
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holdsworth PityDaFool Who Posts This Much

Joined: 01 May 2003 Posts: 5333 City: Knoxville
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Posted: Aug 06, 2005 5:12 am Post subject: |
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BelmontWake, not exactly the whole thinhg, actually. but he was referring to a 180, so i was like, wtf?  |
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Lyle Soul Rider

Joined: 06 Mar 2003 Posts: 433 City: Lake Oswego
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Posted: Aug 08, 2005 7:34 am Post subject: |
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ohio_wake_2008, oh you think you are saying wft, try being in my situation; upsidedown, way too high, drifting into I guess you could call it a flat spin, and knowing you are going to land flat on your back. I was kind of thinking about it this weekend and I think it kind has to do with how quick you transition to your toes for the trip. Does anyone have experience with this? It seems to me if you do it to slow you don't get a lot of pop and everything happens really slow in the air. Of couse the other issue is when to do it. I have been watcing myself on video and notice sometimes I go to my toes after I have left the wake. That is pretty annoying. _________________ Skiing made me board,
Lyle
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holdsworth PityDaFool Who Posts This Much

Joined: 01 May 2003 Posts: 5333 City: Knoxville
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Posted: Aug 08, 2005 8:33 am Post subject: |
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i've never had anything like that happen to me. i pay good attention to what i am doing.
i am going to feel like an idiot asking this, but what exactly is a trip flip?  |
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elyse Wakeboarder.Commie

Joined: 01 May 2004 Posts: 1261 City: Indianapolis
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Posted: Aug 08, 2005 8:41 am Post subject: |
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| ohio_wake_2008, it is the type of flip a tantrum is. You are supposed to edge in hard, square up, and flatten out your board so the wake "trips" you over. |
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Lyle Soul Rider

Joined: 06 Mar 2003 Posts: 433 City: Lake Oswego
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Posted: Aug 08, 2005 10:34 am Post subject: |
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And actually when I was watching videos of a guy doing it he would get up onto his toes as he left the wake. It really makes a difference when you do it right. Like I was saying it launches you straight up. _________________ Skiing made me board,
Lyle
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Lyle Soul Rider

Joined: 06 Mar 2003 Posts: 433 City: Lake Oswego
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Posted: Aug 09, 2005 10:19 am Post subject: |
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So I rode last night with a friend that can do Whirly Birds. He said it looks like I am throwing my Tantrums away from the boat, which creates tension in the line. He said when you do a whirly you need to throw it more parallel to the boat or almost towards the boat to help get rid of that tension. Anyone have any experience with this? _________________ Skiing made me board,
Lyle
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LFADAM PityDaFool Who Posts This Much


Joined: 25 Aug 2003 Posts: 5283 City: New York City
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Posted: Aug 09, 2005 10:34 am Post subject: |
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| wow wow wow....isnt this the ohio wake 2008 that can do tantrum2blinds and was planning on tootsie rolls? Those are trip flips my friend, you should probably know what they are. |
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holdsworth PityDaFool Who Posts This Much

Joined: 01 May 2003 Posts: 5333 City: Knoxville
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Posted: Aug 09, 2005 2:17 pm Post subject: |
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LFADAM, haha yeah thats me. i don't know why i didn't know what they were.
i am actually working on a g-spot right now. kinda. i am slightly injured at the moment. tootsie roll-possibly at the end of this month or sometime next month |
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