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Bowen Wakeboarder.com Freak

Joined: 12 Apr 2004 Posts: 3708 City: Dallas...I miss SoCal
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DRAGON88 Ladies Man


Joined: 12 Jan 2003 Posts: 8213 City: Portland, OR
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Posted: Aug 08, 2005 3:07 pm Post subject: |
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I want it...
It looks like it's in AMAZING shape! 80 hrs makes me nervous though about the motor, that's barely broken in... About 5.025 hours per year... The interior looks MINT however... Might outweigh the cost of an engine rebuild.... _________________ wakeboards
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Erik Old School Freak

Joined: 10 Mar 2003 Posts: 2830 City: Boston MA, Wolfeboro NH, DelRay FL, Montego Bay, Jamaica
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Posted: Aug 08, 2005 3:45 pm Post subject: |
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I believe that this can not be the original engine. I have been seeing a lot of questionable Ebay auctions on boats lately. 80 hours? No way. Sometime I feel like Ebay really should have a questionable statements / false advertising clause. Saw someon a few weeks ago advertising their 1996 Ski Nautique as the "same boat as a 70,000 wakeboard boat!" I nearly mailed the guy on it then decided to mind my own business.
Since the question was asked on here, and I have vested interest in this site and its' users... I would be somewhat skeptical of this sale. It smells to me. The boat LOOKS fantastic. But so did mine with 1000 hours on her. |
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SouthWaker Soul Rider


Joined: 07 Jan 2005 Posts: 439 City: Lake Blackshear
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Posted: Aug 08, 2005 5:42 pm Post subject: |
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| I believe that isn't the orignal motor, looks like the gauges have been changed or either the sun is hitting that one speedo making it look a little more aged that the others. Ive never seen those valve covers in a 2001 either. |
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hiett_431 Criminal


Joined: 12 Jun 2004 Posts: 98 City: Chadron
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Posted: Aug 08, 2005 8:19 pm Post subject: |
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| The boat looks like it has never even been touched. I just picked up an '89 SN2001 over 4th of July with 380hrs, it looks like brand new too tho. Not sure how you could have one of these boats and not ever use it. I've put 15hrs on my boat in a month, they are such great boats. I paid a little more for mine than this one is up to, but it has been worth every bit. If i were looking into this boat, I would definately get serial numbers from the owner and cross reference them to make sure it is original. |
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hiett_431 Criminal


Joined: 12 Jun 2004 Posts: 98 City: Chadron
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Posted: Aug 08, 2005 8:20 pm Post subject: |
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| The boat looks like it has never even been touched. I just picked up an '89 SN2001 over 4th of July with 380hrs, it looks like brand new too tho. Not sure how you could have one of these boats and not ever use it. I've put 15hrs on my boat in a month, they are such great boats. I paid a little more for mine than this one is up to, but it has been worth every bit. If i were looking into this boat, I would definately get serial numbers from the owner and cross reference them to make sure it is original. |
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jon4pres Addict


Joined: 09 Jul 2004 Posts: 589 City: Fort Scott
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Posted: Aug 09, 2005 6:05 am Post subject: |
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If that motor only has 80 hours on it that means that it has been sitting dry most of its life. Wouldnt this be hard on the motor as the rings are oiled by the motor running. I would think a motor sitting dry for most of 20 years would be bad. I dont really know but it makes sense in my head.
I have an 82 with 800 hours and I can not having a boat that nice and never using it. |
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Wakebrad Ladies Man


Joined: 11 Dec 2003 Posts: 12257 City: Dallas
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Posted: Aug 09, 2005 6:17 am Post subject: |
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jon4pres, exactly. If the engine's original and only has 80 hours I would be vey cautious. Under-use is far worse than over-use on boats. If a boat is left for a season or 2 without being run it can have terrible effects on the engine. And I highly doubt that he winterized and dewinterized, changed the oil etc for 5 hours of use every season. _________________ You have just entered the twilight zone. |
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-=LoneStar=- Addict


Joined: 20 Nov 2004 Posts: 751
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Posted: Aug 09, 2005 7:14 am Post subject: |
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If anyone finds out the story on this boat, please let us know. I, for one, am curious.
Erik,
Perhaps you could contact the guy and say that you are the owner of the2001.com and would like to do a little story on the boat as possibly the most original 2001 in existance. If it's legitimate, a piece on the website could help him sell it. If not, well...he'll probably tell you to go away. Either way, it might help satisfy our curiosity. |
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El' Presidente Outlaw

Joined: 24 May 2004 Posts: 145 City: Jacksonville
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Posted: Aug 09, 2005 9:42 am Post subject: |
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SouthWaker | Quote: |
Ive never seen those valve covers in a 2001 either
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My friend just bought a 89 2001 and it has the same exact valve covers. We believe his is the original motor (975 hours). _________________ It's a natural poke |
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SouthWaker Soul Rider


Joined: 07 Jan 2005 Posts: 439 City: Lake Blackshear
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Posted: Aug 09, 2005 10:11 am Post subject: |
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| Im with LoneStar, if anyone finds out the story please let us know! |
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Commodore Ladies Man


Joined: 20 Jun 2005 Posts: 11636
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Posted: Aug 09, 2005 11:22 am Post subject: |
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That is the exact engine my 89 Supra has in it. It looks like the original distributor cap which is a points system. Which leads me to believe this might be the original motor. If it was rebuilt, any rebuilder I know would have converted it from points to direct ign. since they are more effecient.
But only 80 hrs scares me just as much. But if it was kept in good storage, all you would need to do is change the plugs, pre-oil the cylinders and fire it up. |
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bremsen Outlaw


Joined: 08 Jun 2005 Posts: 168 City: Charlotte
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Posted: Aug 09, 2005 11:43 am Post subject: |
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Haugy...ilisting says its been changed to EI.
I wouldn't want it.....couldn't bring myself to mod it for wakeboarding. Hopefully the winner doesn't destroy such a pristine example. _________________ the2001.com |
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Erik Old School Freak

Joined: 10 Mar 2003 Posts: 2830 City: Boston MA, Wolfeboro NH, DelRay FL, Montego Bay, Jamaica
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Posted: Aug 09, 2005 11:46 am Post subject: |
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-=LoneStar=-, I am such a nozy person and a tiny bit of a NARC. I'm on it.
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Commodore Ladies Man


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Posted: Aug 09, 2005 11:47 am Post subject: |
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bremsen, well that's it, time for a beer!!
Now why on earth would I want to read?  |
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Erik Old School Freak

Joined: 10 Mar 2003 Posts: 2830 City: Boston MA, Wolfeboro NH, DelRay FL, Montego Bay, Jamaica
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Posted: Aug 09, 2005 11:50 am Post subject: |
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Sent....I'll let you know what I hear...
dwhitle,
I run the Web site www.the2001.com and several members have contacted me for my opinion on this particular boat. I assume you are aware that the 82-89 Ski Nautiques are very popular for wakeboarders.
Are the 80hours on the original engine, or has it been rebuilt or replaced. Have the guages been replaced? Also what, if any, modifications have you done to the interior of the boat or its structure. It is a nice boat by the way.
Thanks,
Erik |
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Erik Old School Freak

Joined: 10 Mar 2003 Posts: 2830 City: Boston MA, Wolfeboro NH, DelRay FL, Montego Bay, Jamaica
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Posted: Aug 09, 2005 4:38 pm Post subject: |
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His Response:
Item: Correct Craft Ski Nautique 2001 (4566450168)
This message was sent while the listing was active.
dwhitle is the seller.
Erik,
Everything about this boat, motor & trailer is original. The only upgrade I have done is had electronic ignition put on. No mods to interior or structure.
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bighitbiker3 Soul Rider


Joined: 21 Jun 2005 Posts: 386 City: Seattle
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Posted: Aug 09, 2005 5:04 pm Post subject: |
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Erik Jernberg, Thanks for doing that. That motor being original sounds bad. _________________ The sky is not the limit. Wanna see me naked? |
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-=LoneStar=- Addict


Joined: 20 Nov 2004 Posts: 751
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Posted: Aug 09, 2005 5:23 pm Post subject: |
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Erik,
Thanks, but you call that nosy? Come on, man! I want to know HOW ON EARTH that boat could have only 80 hours. It looks like he lives on a lake even. Is he the original owner? Did he buy the boat, knock himself out waterskiing, and lie in a coma for 16 years? Did his garage door opener break in 1989 and he just got around to fixing it? Did he keep it in a nitrogen-filled bubble, with the thought of one day auctioning it off on a global digital auction thingamajig? Was he only able to take it out on one hot August night per year, under the darkness of the new moon, because he was ashamed of the pink pinstripes on the trailer? I want the scoop! |
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-=LoneStar=- Addict


Joined: 20 Nov 2004 Posts: 751
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Posted: Aug 11, 2005 8:23 am Post subject: |
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Interesting update:
The guy who bought this boat also recently bought a Mastercraft Stars and Stripes, a Ski Supreme, a Corvette, and a '64 Bel Air (all from different states). Dealer? If so, $11K seems a little high if he intends to flip it.
Has anyone seen a non-upgraded 2001 (tower, Perfect Pass, stereo, etc.) go for more than $10K? |
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bremsen Outlaw


Joined: 08 Jun 2005 Posts: 168 City: Charlotte
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Posted: Aug 11, 2005 9:40 am Post subject: |
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| -=LoneStar=- wrote: | Erik,
Thanks, but you call that nosy? Come on, man! I want to know HOW ON EARTH that boat could have only 80 hours. It looks like he lives on a lake even. Is he the original owner? Did he buy the boat, knock himself out waterskiing, and lie in a coma for 16 years? Did his garage door opener break in 1989 and he just got around to fixing it? Did he keep it in a nitrogen-filled bubble, with the thought of one day auctioning it off on a global digital auction thingamajig? Was he only able to take it out on one hot August night per year, under the darkness of the new moon, because he was ashamed of the pink pinstripes on the trailer? I want the scoop! |
LMAO.
Oh and $11 could be flipped....MC dealer here was asking 12.5 for an 89 with 600hrs, faded baby blue gel coat and OK interior....ie much worse than this one. |
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Erik Old School Freak

Joined: 10 Mar 2003 Posts: 2830 City: Boston MA, Wolfeboro NH, DelRay FL, Montego Bay, Jamaica
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Posted: Aug 11, 2005 5:12 pm Post subject: |
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| -=LoneStar=- wrote: |
Has anyone seen a non-upgraded 2001 (tower, Perfect Pass, stereo, etc.) go for more than $10K? |
No. Nope.
I promote the 2001's because they are such a great way to get people into the sport. I make the assertion that someone can buy a used Ski Nautique 2001 for about as much as a new Jet-Ski. So if it gets over 10,000 I start to get uncomfortable. But the +$10,000 2001's I've seen on here have towers/perfect passetc to make the argument that they are worth it. Arguments aside, I dont like to see any of them sold for more than 10,000. And 10,000 it better have a good tower, PP and few cosmetic problems. I sold mine for far less. And I'd buy it back in a heartbeat if given the chance. |
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-=LoneStar=- Addict


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Posted: Aug 11, 2005 5:48 pm Post subject: |
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| Well, now you have. I saw another one go for $10,300 just a couple of days ago as well. It looked nice, but it was totally stock. You'd think the prices would go down a bit as more and more older inboards (especially open bows: Sport Nautiques, Sunsetters, Sunsports, etc.) come on the market but I guess the demand for a great wake is still growing faster than the supply of boats that can provide it. |
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intotheflats PityDaFool Who Posts This Much


Joined: 31 Jan 2003 Posts: 5492 City: Port Clinton, Oh
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Posted: Aug 11, 2005 6:04 pm Post subject: |
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Could there be a new hour meter on that boat?
If there is only 80 hours, I would be nervous about it. Any engine that doesn't get used will eventually dry out all the hoses. All though you could replace all the hoses in that boat for less than $200 _________________ Does this rag smell like chloroform?
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