Perfect Pass

Mike · Addict Joined: 30 Jan 2003 Posts: 536 City: Orlando

Just wondering the price on like Perfect Pass Wakeboard PRo? Is that the best one for the money? Not to familiar and would like some info. Thanks guys.

Mike · Addict Joined: 30 Jan 2003 Posts: 536 City: Orlando

Alright, I just checked the website and they have to prices but I'm still confused on which one whould be best. I'm guessing the one that controls speed is prefered over the one that controls RPM, right? Does Wakeboard PRo control speed or RPM?

forwaken · Addict Joined: 28 Jan 2003 Posts: 635 City: Turlock, CA

Speed. Pretty simple and easy to use. Don't know about others though, never tried them. It is also more designed to be used at lower speeds. Pick up the new Alliance magazine. There is a whole article on the company and thier products.

jvanick · Posted: Apr 01, 2003 6:29 am Post subject:

First of all, make sure you get the model with the paddle wheel... the models without the paddle wheel only control speed by RPM, which isn't as accurate as the paddle wheel which controls the speed by monitoring how fast the boat is going.

Get the Wakeboard Pro model... the lower end one (Wakeboard Cruise) doesn't have the LCD panel...

The LCD panel lets you set things EXACTLY per rider... for example... one of my buddies rides at 22.5, I ride at 21.7...

If you get the cruise model, you have to guess at the speed based on the speedometer (which on my boat sometimes works or sometimes doesn't depending on if something gets caught in the tube) or looking at the tach.

-J

Richie Martin · Posted: Apr 01, 2003 8:29 am Post subject:

perfect pass is the greatest thing since sliced bread!!!

I agree....get the wakeboard pro.

Flash · Posted: Apr 01, 2003 12:06 pm Post subject:

Mike, my Tige' 21i is in the shop right now having PP wakeboard pro installed. It is my unterstanding that for wakeboarding PPWP is the one to get. Just to give you some idea, it is gonna cost me about $1500 out the door.

atxwake · Posted: Apr 01, 2003 1:19 pm Post subject:

perfect pass has some cool gagets on it too, like battery voltage, lake temp, hour meter, and trip odometer, im sure its got more cool stuff, but thats all i can think of off hand

Partyb · Posted: Apr 01, 2003 8:20 pm Post subject:

When it comes to perfect pass, price is irrelevant. Just get it. Yea, the wakeboard pro model.

Cowie · Posted: Apr 01, 2003 8:27 pm Post subject:

We have PP wakeboard cruise, paddle wheel based and it works really well, wouldnt get another boat without it, that simple.!! We have dual airguide tournament dash so we dont really need the digital speed read out. Having said that, if i was to do it again i would pay the extra cash for the wakeboard pro. you wont regrett it. I agree totally with jvanoc comments. Very Happy

senate62 · Posted: Apr 02, 2003 3:58 am Post subject:

with the paddle wheel, wouldnt the speed vary if there was a bit of a current in the water or something?

brentgd86 · Outlaw Joined: 20 Jan 2003 Posts: 115 City: San Marcos

i would say it depends what kind of boat and how much weight you have in it. my boat needs the pro because the regular pp cruise varied too much in speed. once i got the pro, speed stays within 1 mph of set speed. rpm is also very helpful.

Seth Martin · Moderator Joined: 12 Jan 2003 Posts: 891 City: Orlando

the paddle wheel will vary as much as the airguide pickups.

J_DOGG · Posted: Apr 02, 2003 9:37 am Post subject:

worth every penny, no matter what the cost...
I wouldn't own a boat with out it!

PEACE

DenverB · Newbie Joined: 02 Apr 2003 Posts: 5 City: Ocala, FL

Wakeboard Pro is the way to go. It's main use is to control the speed for wakeboarding, but it also has features that allow you to control rpm when put in rpm mode. It also has slalom mode and other stuff too, but I only use it for wakeboarding. I wouldn't ride without it. Its worth the money! Shocked

DenverB · Newbie Joined: 02 Apr 2003 Posts: 5 City: Ocala, FL

Wakeboard Pro is the way to go. It's main use is to control the speed for wakeboarding, but it also has features that allow you to control rpm when put in rpm mode. It also has slalom mode and other stuff too, but I only use it for wakeboarding. I wouldn't ride without it. Its worth the money! Shocked

Mike · Addict Joined: 30 Jan 2003 Posts: 536 City: Orlando

Yeah, after looking I was deciding between WAkeboard Pro and WAkeboard Cruise. It sure seems like WAkeboard PRo is worth the extra cash. Thanks for the help guys. Now I just need to get enough money saved by Summer time.

Cowie · Posted: Apr 02, 2003 8:16 pm Post subject:

brentgd86, Was that the standard rpm Based cruise that you had?, my understanding is that the "wakeboard cruise" uses the same paddle wheel and closed loop speed control as the Wakeboard pro, therefore speed holding and functionality should be the same. The Pro gives extra features like digital speed readout etc which i think would be nice but it shouldnt be any better at holding speed. if it was rpm based cruise then that is a different story.

Seth Martin, I agree, the dual airguide tournament speedos have proven to be very accurate when compared to GPS and laser gun, as such we havnt had a real need for the additional features you get on the pro model PP.

If you are tight for cash getthe Wakeboard cruise. I a fair bit cheaper andwill still do the same job of holding speed as the PP pro.

CheerokeeWake · Criminal Joined: 27 Feb 2003 Posts: 69 City: Nashville

I have the oppurtunity to get the RPM based system for like $300, is this worth it. It is the most i can afford. Would it be better than nothing, or should i wait till next year and get a paddle wheel type?

Partyb · Posted: Apr 03, 2003 4:37 pm Post subject:

I would get the speed based pro. Just charge it already. I am afraid that if you get the rpm you will be unlikely to ever get the better model. Rpm changes with the wind, tide, and especially people and fat sac weight.

brentgd86 · Outlaw Joined: 20 Jan 2003 Posts: 115 City: San Marcos

the perfect pass that i had was not the rpm based, it had the paddle. perfect pass pro is better because you can set it to a tenth of a mph. it is quite a bit more accurate than regular cruise. trust me i have ridden behind one boat with regular pp; it varied really badly between 20 -25 mph (which is way too hard to ride at) then i rode an identical boat with more ballast and more people and the pp pro stayed right witin 1mph or set speed

Mike · Addict Joined: 30 Jan 2003 Posts: 536 City: Orlando

OK, there is a Wakeboard Cruise, and Wakeboard Pro, both paddle wheel (speed based) Would the wakeboard cruise be fine? I'm not too sure on the differences. Somebody help me out here.

skicrave · Criminal Joined: 12 Jan 2003 Posts: 76 City: Portland

Traditional pressure gradient fed speedos are a terrible source for consistant speed readings. Don't believe me? The next time you're out take a look at what the speedos are reading compared to your hand held GPS. The speedos will generally be accurate at ONE speed, the speed at which they were calibrated. Other than that, they can be off by as much as 10mph at the end of the spectrum.

The paddle wheel reports speeds almost totally linearly from just over 0mph to the low 40's. It's a much more accurate source, and one that had to be implemented to get reliable speed based control of the boat's speed (both for the accuracy and sampling rate).

Mike · Addict Joined: 30 Jan 2003 Posts: 536 City: Orlando

Skicrave:

I know the paddle wheel is the way to go. However, PP has a few models with the paddle wheel. The two in mind are Wakeboard Cruise and Wakeboard Pro. WAkeboard Pro is roughly $1100 plus install. Wakeboard Cruise is $700 plus install. My question is, Is Wakeboard Pro worth the $400 more dollars?

Cowie · Posted: Apr 10, 2003 10:55 pm Post subject:

We eneded up getting the wakeboard cruise and it works really well. no complaints and for the level we are at it does the job. If I was going to buy it again i would fork out the extra cash for the Pro. It is just a nicer unit and you get better features. Also, install it yourself. We did ours in about two hours and it is very easy. There are some good article in Malibu owners website about install and supplie dinstructions are good. I wouldnt pay for someone to do it unless you run into warranty issues.

O'brienGotWake · Posted: Apr 11, 2003 5:24 am Post subject:

I was wonering if PP can be used on Carb engines and if the set up is more difficult than with an EFI??