4 minute drill????

SuperAirRider · Posted: Jun 12, 2005 11:10 am Post subject: 4 minute drill????

hey..has anyone tried this drill off of "The Book" DVD? The FS part is easy but the BS is the tough part (btw if you havent seen the DVD you will have no idea what im talking about)...i cant get all the way through without falling backwards on my head even at slow speeds...any suggestions?

ontrider · Ladies Man Joined: 30 Jul 2003 Posts: 16491 City: Russia

Slow the boat down and practice the backside 180s in the middle of the wake first, then take it outside the wakes to do the drill.

toothpick · Posted: Jun 12, 2005 2:19 pm Post subject:

Anybody care to fill us in on what it is? I know Kyle has plenty of drills, probably the most structured coach I've seen. Usually pretty good stuff.

ontrider · Ladies Man Joined: 30 Jul 2003 Posts: 16491 City: Russia

toothpick, basically you're practicing using all your edges both regular and switch. Cut out heelside, loose rope turn in, leverage turn back out... do this three times and then do a surface 180 at the wake and do it all again but switch... so you'd be cutting out toeside and loose rope turn in heelside... leverage turn back out toeside.

Then you go out the other side of the wake and do it again. After that you do the same thing, but with backside surface 180s instead of fronts. Hope I explained that alright.

SuperAirRider · Posted: Jun 12, 2005 8:16 pm Post subject:

ontrider, yeah thats a pretty good explanation...basically you are going through all positions, edges, and handle passes on a wakeboard...but it is all through surface 180s...on the video kyle says it is the one drill that will really progress your riding...so i want to take my time to get it down...so it is easier doing bs surface 180s directly behind the boat than outside the wake then?

Cameron · Outlaw Joined: 28 Aug 2003 Posts: 180 City: Down Under

Yep, and slower the boat less falls you have as well. Backside surface spins take a bit to get used to but you just have to practise, and really concentrate on your body position because its not really all that natural and its easy to get pulled over..

fergie23 · Posted: Jun 13, 2005 12:33 pm Post subject:

I just watched The Foundation dvd and think I could pull off the FS 180's regular but the switch 180'sand all the BS seem difficult but sounds like a good way to try it behind the boat first. I didn't see the 1st dvd but was there a simpler drill to start with in that one (like the same thing but w/o 180's to start with)?

toothpick · Posted: Jun 13, 2005 8:20 pm Post subject:

Cool, thanks for the explanation. I've seen people learn to spin pretty well that way. It also helps to get you real comfy on the board so you land all moves better.

Landon126 · Outlaw Joined: 15 Jun 2005 Posts: 168 City: Louisville

I went down the the wakeboard camp near Orlando and Kyle showed me the 2 min drill---didnt get into the 4 min drill. Anyway, I can't speak to the 4min drill as I have not even attempted a backside 180, but I know the 2 min drill is solid and helps my switch tons. If you guys havent been to the camp and can afford the time/cost, go for it. Its a great learning experience. Plus u get to see pro wakeboarders do some crazy stuff behind the boat!

I have an autographed copy of "The Book" Very Happy

haha gogo

fergie23 · Posted: Jun 15, 2005 1:15 pm Post subject:

hey Landon126, what did you learn at TWC? sounds like it is a week well spent!

Landon126 · Outlaw Joined: 15 Jun 2005 Posts: 168 City: Louisville

Actually I only went for 1 day, on New Year's day (family was down in FL for vacation). Kyle went over the basics with my family, as they were all pretty much new to wakeboarding (cept my bro and me). With us, he asked us to ride a bit, then he gave us pointers. He mainly broke me down and showed me where I had bad habits and corrected them. He made my TS edge much much stronger. After going over many drills and riding positions, I asked for specific advice on 360s. He showed me a few drills I could to do practice. Very helpful.

From my experience (which again was only 1 day) it is mainly a place for children under 16, but I am going to go back (not stay the night there) soon. I also learned that I have a lot of work to do haha. Watching Kyle and another guy behind the very boat I rode behind was amazing. I kinda always wondered if those videos made them look cooler than they were somehow, but nop.....they are simply amazing. Kyle was working on a Method grab raley i think while i was there. Also saw the most amazing wakeskater ever--but I forget his name.

I would definentally recommend going to anyone. You will learn a lot and will be better.