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PostPosted: May 18, 2005 1:29 pm    Post subject: big air without a tower..... Reply with quote

i dont have a wakeboard tower, or a true ski/wakeboard boat either. i have a 17 foot bowrider, with a pylon at the back. i wanna know if anyone else has a similar pull without a tower or a sky-pole, and how big they are able to go on it.
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PostPosted: May 18, 2005 4:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It doesn't matter what kind of boat you have or if you have a tower to get big air... I mean yeah it helps you alot if you have a tower or a wakeboard specific boat, but i've seen guys doing inverts behind a sea doo... its all in how you pop of the wake.
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PostPosted: May 18, 2005 5:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yeah check out the video relentless by liquid force , I believe its shawn watson doin some crazy stuff behind an I/O , my reasoning for this is that the camera is above the rope and the rope looks to be pretty low in the boat.
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PostPosted: May 19, 2005 7:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i rode for a while behind a 16 ft flat boat with a 60 hp, first invert (tantrum) behind it
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PostPosted: May 20, 2005 7:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

im riding behind a seadoo at the moment. 3 people creates an awesome wake behind the ski.
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PostPosted: May 21, 2005 5:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i ride a 18 foot crownline with a tow eye on the back, its pretty low but i can still get enough air to go wake to wakeeverytime easy, load the boat up and u get monster wake. just cram as many ppl as u can in i (without sinkin it)
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PostPosted: May 21, 2005 12:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah im in an 89 sea ray, wakes pretty good but no tower. Its a peice of cake going w2w behind it. But i think that having a tower will give u alot more hang time while u dont have to work quite a hard to get the pop. (my oppinion)
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PostPosted: May 21, 2005 1:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've rode behind 19ft Master Craft Prostar for as long as I've wakeboarded. I can still get enough pop to throw some inverts. Its all in the pop.

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PostPosted: May 27, 2005 9:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just sold an 10 year old I/O, because we are finnally getting a bu! It didn't have a pylon, tower, or fatsack and I was able to stick backrolls, scarecrows, tantrums, and I even stuck a raley once. (I pulled that out of my butt) So don't get discouraged just because you don't have a ski or wakeboard boat. Learning off of a crappy boat helps a lot because once you do get on a good boat EVERYTHING is easier to throw and everything you do throw will be twice as big.
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PostPosted: May 27, 2005 10:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

tjrlake123, I bet. I have a 15 year old I/O now, unweighted and it takes some good effort to get in the flats and even more to get high. When I do ride behind wake boats, I get about twice my normal height.

tOme, Im riding all next week behind my I/O, Ill try to get some pics of just how big you can go.
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PostPosted: May 27, 2005 11:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

LFADAM, you ride continuos on your trip so that might explain the effort to get hight thing.
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PostPosted: May 27, 2005 11:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ballywho, actually right now I am riding a Substance 141 and Its about 6 inches improvement in height so basically its the rope pulling me down, but good thought!
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PostPosted: May 27, 2005 12:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh your profile has a trip on there too. Do you ride with a tower?
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PostPosted: May 27, 2005 4:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hahaha i've been reading these posts for a long time now, and i've been waiting for someone to say they've stuck a tantrum on an I/O without a tower. That makes me feel a little more ballsy to go for it Razz. thanks!
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PostPosted: May 28, 2005 8:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dude i've stuck backrolls behind 15ft outboards before.. just have to cut heaps more aggressively and push like hell off the wake to get the height.. they are doable though... have gotten around on a tantrum from other boats rollers too. No reason why you shouldnt be trying them =P
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PostPosted: May 28, 2005 9:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

t0me,

"The first thing you will need to do is get out about 18 to 20 feet from the wake. You will then start a slow progressive cut back towards the wake. Build your cut up harder and harder as you get closer. This will, in turn, apply more pressure to your line. Hold your edge all the way up the wake. As you near the top begin to straighten your legs out. With your legs straight and the rope low and near your waist you will began to pop off the wake. Be sure to keep your head up and look ahead so you can spot your landing. On your way down be sure to absorb the landing well so you don’t slip out."

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PostPosted: May 29, 2005 5:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's a pic of me behind my 19ft i/o. We usually get about 5-6ft of air. Think thats about max with our wake Crying or Very sad

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PostPosted: May 29, 2005 6:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ballywho, yea I am switching back and forth between the substance and trip. I own both. No, I do not have a tower or ballast, unfortunately...
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PostPosted: May 29, 2005 1:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Impressive... I have an ob with no ballast, no tower, a (crappy) ski rope and up until now I rode hydroslide. Needless to say, I suck.

Finally I am getting a decent board and bindings and am gonna make up a no strech line for myself. This should help.
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PostPosted: Jun 09, 2005 10:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, I just got back from 1 and a half weeks of riding but unfortunately I screwed my knee over again so I couldnt go big or in the flats but here is a pic of my average air. (w2w, not flats)



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PostPosted: Jun 09, 2005 11:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So that was no tower but that wake looks pretty nice. How much weight do youy have and in what kind of boat?
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