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PostPosted: Apr 09, 2005 10:23 pm    Post subject: Jumalian's Anger Management Classes... Reply with quote

Are working. I don't know how he didn't do it, but I would have sprayed these guys, they were directly in our line.



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PostPosted: Apr 09, 2005 10:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm disappointed Joe! You have a reputation to uphold! Teribble! Evil or Very Mad Laughing
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PostPosted: Apr 10, 2005 3:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

are you sure that's jumalian? because im sure he would have sprayed that foo!
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PostPosted: Apr 10, 2005 7:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

He should of had his slider board on and slid the edge of his boat. Twisted Evil
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PostPosted: Apr 10, 2005 11:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

my anger management counselor told me to count to 10 in situations like that. i counted to 50. Laughing
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PostPosted: Apr 10, 2005 1:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jumalian, I don't know how you had that much time to count to 50...we barely missed those guys. You at least could have slid the gunnel. Twisted Evil
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PostPosted: Apr 10, 2005 1:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

wait...joe knows how to count to 50? holy crap!

um yeah. someone had to say it Laughing

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PostPosted: Apr 10, 2005 2:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dang yours close. At least you didn't have a mosquito come up right behind you and jump your wake, that sucks
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PostPosted: Apr 10, 2005 3:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

is it wrong to spray little kids on a tube being pulled by their idiotic parents? Evil or Very Mad
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PostPosted: Apr 10, 2005 4:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Seems like the wakeboat driver needs to go to safe boating class. Passing within 100 feet of a nonpowered fishing boat and overtaking a vessel from the rear on ther wrong side within 100 feet are clearly violations of USCG regulations. Unless you own the lake the boat driver and wakeboarder are at fault in this class. We (wakeboarders) don't own a "line" on the lake.
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PostPosted: Apr 10, 2005 4:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

grapic, safety never takes a vacation Laughing
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PostPosted: Apr 10, 2005 4:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

uh, that particular day, yes, we owned that portion of the lake. that was the ski course that we paid to use. also, fishermen know that they're supposed to stay near the shore.

nice try though.

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PostPosted: Apr 10, 2005 4:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Seems like the wakeboat driver needs to go to safe boating class. Passing within 100 feet of a nonpowered fishing boat and overtaking a vessel from the rear on ther wrong side within 100 feet are clearly violations of USCG regulations. Unless you own the lake the boat driver and wakeboarder are at fault in this class. We (wakeboarders) don't own a "line" on the lake.


your probly the kind of person, who makes every passenger in the boat wear a lifevest,
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PostPosted: Apr 10, 2005 4:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'don't make anyone wear vest and I have been upset with lots of fishermen, jetskis, and tubers for messing up the lake. It just doesn't help to "spray" them. We have a ski course that is leased from TVA. We can ask fishermen to stay out of the way and most cooperate. If they don't we have to still follow USCG regulations for safe operating distances.
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PostPosted: Apr 10, 2005 5:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i live on a river and people dont know how to drive...as a matter of fact, some guy hit my boat today cuz he was too stupid to put it in reverse... jet-skiers drove over my rope, a fisherman cussed me out cuz i threw a raley and landed like 10 feet past his boat...he felt threatened, created a disturbance, i wasnt even acting like a punk until he went out of his way to drive in front of me zig-zagging to mess up my wake... i sprayed his ass, if it were like that boat up top...looks like a slider to me, in other words, you should have slid that, would have made for a better picture
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PostPosted: Apr 10, 2005 5:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

grapic, it was powered though Wink Twisted Evil

but I do agree that following the rules is generally a pretty good Idea

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PostPosted: Apr 10, 2005 5:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Still illegal. If you "rented" it, why not talk to anyone in your way when you get ready to use the "course" just to give them a heads up? You know, common courtesy? Unsafe, poor judgement on the driver's part. IMHumbleO.
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PostPosted: Apr 10, 2005 7:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Still illegal. If you "rented" it, why not talk to anyone in your way when you get ready to use the "course" just to give them a heads up? You know, common courtesy? Unsafe, poor judgement on the driver's part. IMHumbleO.


Uh, we had been driving that line for at least the past hour. All of those fishermen had been near the shore doing alright, until that jackass who SAW us coming cut us off so that he could talk to his other fishing buddy. We had the right of way being that we had a rider IN TOW.
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PostPosted: Apr 10, 2005 7:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bowen, it's cool...just let it go. i'm sure he's never once in his life committed something as illegal. Laughing
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PostPosted: Apr 11, 2005 12:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well...nice job slamming the people who posted, you did a great job posting the background information about renting the area of the lake and the fishermen's error BEFORE you posted the picture . Without that info wtf did you expect people who actually know the boating laws to say Rolling Eyes With all the info known, that is a definitely an awesome picture...
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PostPosted: Apr 11, 2005 5:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Aside from all that, I wonder what the wake did to him...quite a roller coaster I bet
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PostPosted: Apr 11, 2005 6:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That would take alot to not spray him.Woulda been a sweet slider tho.
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PostPosted: Apr 11, 2005 10:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

First and foremost, I don't know how you held back Joe. We would have had words with the old man at a minimum.

Second, why are fisherman crossing an IN USE ski course, EVER? Are these the same guys that walk in your putting line?

Third, USCG & CA State law is on the side of the towboat driver here. No matter which way it is sliced, the fisherman who was IN THE SKI COURSE is in the wrong. The driver with rider in tow always has the right of way, and as such, the fisherman is the one who needed to maintain the 100 foot distance from the tow boat and rider.

Lastly, if a fisherman dared to do the same in one of the ski courses in the Delta (operating under permit), they would likely get the sh*t beaten out of them. Most of the courses I have seen go out of their way to put up "Caution" signs and such.

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PostPosted: Apr 11, 2005 2:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This clown felt the sudden urge to run the slalom course as well. No respect...



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PostPosted: Apr 11, 2005 3:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Its usually people yellin at me not me yellin at people. This is because I make such a big wake and there boats are getting beat up against there docks. Anybody else experience these problems.
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PostPosted: Apr 11, 2005 4:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So Chavez, just cuz someone has "the right of way" that gives them the green light to endanger people and property? Didn't ur mom ever teach you two wrongs don't make a right? Why not be the bigger man and make the right decision based on what's safe?
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PostPosted: Apr 11, 2005 4:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow, this thread went the complete opposite way I was expecting it to.
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PostPosted: Apr 11, 2005 4:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wake upPp, how did the towboat "endanger" anyone. IMO the person that indangered anyone was the fisherman.
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PostPosted: Apr 11, 2005 5:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, let see, I doubt very much that the small boat was going 24 MPH, so I would guess that the wakeboat overtook the smaller boat?? Coming up behind the smaller boat means the driver saw what was coming. The smaller boat driver probably isn't aware of what's happening behind him? So, in theory, the boat coming up in the rear has the ability to avoid the danger? Granted the fisherman is prolly "out to lunch" but on the water you've got to watch out for yourself, as well as the moron's.
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PostPosted: Apr 11, 2005 6:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wake upPp wrote:
So Chavez, just cuz someone has "the right of way" that gives them the green light to endanger people and property? Didn't ur mom ever teach you two wrongs don't make a right? Why not be the bigger man and make the right decision based on what's safe?


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Well, let see, I doubt very much that the small boat was going 24 MPH, so I would guess that the wakeboat overtook the smaller boat?? Coming up behind the smaller boat means the driver saw what was coming. The smaller boat driver probably isn't aware of what's happening behind him? So, in theory, the boat coming up in the rear has the ability to avoid the danger? Granted the fisherman is prolly "out to lunch" but on the water you've got to watch out for yourself, as well as the moron's.


which is why we didn't hit any of the fishermen that cut us off (yes, there were several), nor did i choose to spray the one in the pic.

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PostPosted: Apr 11, 2005 6:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Lastly, if a fisherman dared to do the same in one of the ski courses in the Delta (operating under permit), they would likely get the sh*t beaten out of them. Most of the courses I have seen go out of their way to put up "Caution" signs and such.


The exit of the Golden Gate slalom course on Middle River (which is leased from the State BTW) on the first pass is through an almost blind cut into a slew that is extremely popular for wakeboarding since it's protected from the prevailing wind. There is a caution sign but it's not real obvious.

Wakeboarding sends rollers down the course and course skiers come flying out of that cut directly into the path of oncoming boats - makes for a real lovefest.

Just another day at the Delta where you've always got to keep your head on a swivel.

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PostPosted: Apr 11, 2005 7:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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nor did i choose to spray the one in the pic.


So there were others that did get wet? Laughing Laughing
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PostPosted: Apr 12, 2005 5:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What the hell is wrong with everyone? Given the information shared by those that took the picture nothing "dangerous" took place. Driving by a boat whether it is facing you or not at 24MPH is not dangerous. If you drive over the boat it is dangerous. You can not even see the wake in the picture above showing they must have been a good 15 feet away from the boat. Just because their boat is going to bounce around in the water by the wake is not dangerous. Nor is it our responsiblity to make sure their fishing trip is not disturbed by us. Especially if the tow boat was there first. And to say a person is not responsible for what is going on behind them is crazy. That fisherman better have known that boat was going to pass behind him. If a boat is going to overtake me on my right, I should know that, otherwise I would be endangering my passengers by turning right. When you drive a boat you are responsible for the 360 degrees around your boat, no matter what way you are going. I can not believe people are bashing these guys for going close to a fisherman.

I won't share the countless stories I have about having fishers endangering me, but they are far more severe then what took place in the picture above. Some people need to wake up and see that life isn't about protecting everyone else in the world and live a little.

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PostPosted: Apr 12, 2005 6:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

when i go to Norris Lake in july this year, i will have to take pictures of some of the dumb fishermen we see. we were at stardust marina and some fat guy parks by our boat, which my dad likes to keep neat, clean, unscratched as possible...etc. and he was about 4 inches from hitting our boat when he came up and attempted to park. then it was bouncing right next to our boat when he went in for food and his stupid fat wife just sat there doing nothing. it was the dumbest thing i have ever seen on a lake.
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Tennessee implemented a new boat license law for anyone born after December 31, 1999. My son has to pass the exam before he can drive the boat even if another adult is present. He has driven the boat for the past 3 years on a regular basis. I wasn't saying what was safe or not in approaching from the rear. I was suggesting what the law says. If you approach from the rear and your wake overturns a fishing boat you are responsible. Tennessee law also says that boat owners are responsibe for damage done by their wakes. Some land owners have started calling TWRA when they see wakeboard boats to stop erosion of their property or damage to boats or equipment at their docks.
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