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pet575 Wakeboarder.com Freak
Joined: 20 Jun 2006 Posts: 3630 City: Kansas City, MO
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Posted: Feb 16, 2010 1:20 pm Post subject: |
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Tcannon521, I would think it is also entirely possible that the prop was spinning on the hub under that scenario you mentioned. If you are going to get another prop, make sure a new rubber hub goes in there as well. _________________
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Tcannon521 Newbie
Joined: 27 Jun 2006 Posts: 27 City: Knoxville
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Posted: Feb 16, 2010 1:21 pm Post subject: |
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If you make it down to Norris this year look me up for sure!!
I am making a cushion for the walk through and adding wrap around seating as we speak and my thoughts are.
bag under the front cushion: 600-800 pounds
Ski locker: 300-500 pounds
Rear: TBD.. |
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SilverMustang35 Soul Rider
Joined: 30 Jul 2008 Posts: 494 City: Johnson City
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Posted: Feb 16, 2010 1:23 pm Post subject: |
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We are going down for about 4 days this year to stay on a floating house with my relatives...hoping to get some riding done. _________________ How much work would a network work if a network could network? |
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Tcannon521 Newbie
Joined: 27 Jun 2006 Posts: 27 City: Knoxville
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Posted: Feb 16, 2010 1:23 pm Post subject: |
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pet575 wrote: | Tcannon521, I would think it is also entirely possible that the prop was spinning on the hub under that scenario you mentioned. If you are going to get another prop, make sure a new rubber hub goes in there as well. |
Cool, thanks for the info. I didn't know if that was possible or not. |
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Tcannon521 Newbie
Joined: 27 Jun 2006 Posts: 27 City: Knoxville
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Posted: Feb 16, 2010 1:31 pm Post subject: |
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SilverMustang35 wrote: | We are going down for about 4 days this year to stay on a floating house with my relatives...hoping to get some riding done. |
Man those floating cottages are nice. The wife would rather buy one of those and keep our current boat than buy a new wake boat.....
The cottage is my biggest hurdle on buying an Axis.... LOL |
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SilverMustang35 Soul Rider
Joined: 30 Jul 2008 Posts: 494 City: Johnson City
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Posted: Feb 16, 2010 1:48 pm Post subject: |
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OUCH! just convince her the Axis is a better buy because you can take it to other lakes that have floating cabins, like Nickajack near Chattanooga and the nice 2 bedroom cottage thats right beside the water at watts bar! Good selling points... haha.. _________________ How much work would a network work if a network could network? |
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Tcannon521 Newbie
Joined: 27 Jun 2006 Posts: 27 City: Knoxville
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Posted: Feb 16, 2010 2:22 pm Post subject: |
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The only thing I can say is I work right next to Norris and could head right over after work on Friday and stay Fri-Sun every week which would be nice...
The only sucky thing is I work on Sat, but it would make getting to work on Sat a lot closer for me.. LOL |
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smokinheels10 Outlaw
Joined: 10 Apr 2010 Posts: 100
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Posted: Apr 15, 2010 11:14 am Post subject: |
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I'm riding behind a 19ft stingray I/O with a 3L engine with 135 hp. Would adding 200 pounds of weight to the bow help the wake at all? |
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wiley_coyote Criminal
Joined: 08 Aug 2006 Posts: 60 City: Vernal
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Posted: Apr 15, 2010 11:34 am Post subject: |
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Yes. In I/O's adding weight in the bow is one of the quickest ways to help the wake. Don't sink it though and be careful because it will handle differently. |
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Ethan31 Soul Rider
Joined: 10 Jul 2005 Posts: 335 City: Steamboat Lake, MN
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Posted: Apr 16, 2010 6:00 pm Post subject: |
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smokinheels10 wrote: | I'm riding behind a 19ft stingray I/O with a 3L engine with 135 hp. Would adding 200 pounds of weight to the bow help the wake at all? |
Yes, I have the same motor and run 450lb in the bow walk way.
Makes a big difference.
I also run a 4 blade 17p prop.
19p is also a great prop for that motor. |
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smokinheels10 Outlaw
Joined: 10 Apr 2010 Posts: 100
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Posted: Apr 16, 2010 8:19 pm Post subject: |
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Will a new prop with a different pitch help with maintaining speed? |
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kartman Wakeboarder.Commie
Joined: 29 Oct 2008 Posts: 1542 City: meridian, Idaho
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Posted: Apr 16, 2010 8:21 pm Post subject: |
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that depends what prop you hang off the back. _________________ trying to find a $5-7K usable saltare if anyone knows of one. |
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wiley_coyote Criminal
Joined: 08 Aug 2006 Posts: 60 City: Vernal
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Posted: Apr 16, 2010 10:18 pm Post subject: |
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Get a Hi-5. It's the best investment you can make for an I/O if you are planning on using it as a wakeboard boat. |
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smokinheels10 Outlaw
Joined: 10 Apr 2010 Posts: 100
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Posted: Apr 17, 2010 5:57 am Post subject: |
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What exactly does it do for you? What does it change? |
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kartman Wakeboarder.Commie
Joined: 29 Oct 2008 Posts: 1542 City: meridian, Idaho
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Posted: Apr 17, 2010 6:15 am Post subject: |
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you have more blade surface contacting the water. so it maintains speed better. and the smaller diameter helps immensely with pulling out of the hole. the only problem with them is they are 5-600$ new. _________________ trying to find a $5-7K usable saltare if anyone knows of one. |
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smokinheels10 Outlaw
Joined: 10 Apr 2010 Posts: 100
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Posted: Apr 17, 2010 6:41 am Post subject: |
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Gotcha. How do you determine what pitch you need? Is there somewhere I can go that explains that sort of thing? Thanks for your help by the way. |
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kartman Wakeboarder.Commie
Joined: 29 Oct 2008 Posts: 1542 City: meridian, Idaho
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Posted: Apr 17, 2010 8:19 am Post subject: |
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theirs a few prop calculators out their. their not for the high 5. for the most part its hit and miss. find a shop that will let you demo props. theirs a few where i live that charge 25$ to demo a prop _________________ trying to find a $5-7K usable saltare if anyone knows of one. |
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letsgo19 Criminal
Joined: 30 Aug 2009 Posts: 54
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Posted: Apr 17, 2010 3:37 pm Post subject: project |
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Hey saw project looking nice!You know what your ballast setup will be yet? |
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smokinheels10 Outlaw
Joined: 10 Apr 2010 Posts: 100
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Posted: Apr 21, 2010 7:27 am Post subject: |
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I'm wanting to add some sand in the bow of the boat. I don't think any of the fat sacs would work in the compartments under the seats and I don't want to give up seating or floor space in order to have a fat sac. That is why I am going to go with sand. I'd like to add about 200-300 pounds up front but I want to be able to take the sand out as well. I thought leaving the sand inthe bags would allow me to do that but when taking one out last week I had it bust on me. So here is a solution I was thinking about: Getting some pvc pipe and cutting it into the appropriate length and filling the pvc pipe with the sand. (will have to get the caps for the pvc pipe). That will allow me to take them in and out when necessary.
Thought about using milk jugs but I dont' think they would fill up the space as efficiently. Anyone else have any ideas? |
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kartman Wakeboarder.Commie
Joined: 29 Oct 2008 Posts: 1542 City: meridian, Idaho
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Posted: Apr 21, 2010 9:24 am Post subject: |
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i would never use sand, metal, or anything that is heavier than water. if you swamp your boat, it will sink. if you swamp your boat with water in the boat, it will just fill up with water. .02 _________________ trying to find a $5-7K usable saltare if anyone knows of one. |
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smokinheels10 Outlaw
Joined: 10 Apr 2010 Posts: 100
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Posted: Apr 21, 2010 9:39 am Post subject: |
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I am going to be putting at most 300 in the bow. This is less than two people my size sitting in the bow of the boat so I would think it should be fine. Mostly doing this because majority of the time I go out its me, my g/f, and of her friends. The g/f likes to take pictures so she doesnt want to sit in the bow so there is no weight in the bow. Figure this will solve that problem. |
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pet575 Wakeboarder.com Freak
Joined: 20 Jun 2006 Posts: 3630 City: Kansas City, MO
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Posted: Apr 21, 2010 1:12 pm Post subject: |
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That or replacing g/f with g/f who will sit in bow as requested. More than one way to upgrade your boat! _________________
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smokinheels10 Outlaw
Joined: 10 Apr 2010 Posts: 100
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Posted: Apr 21, 2010 1:42 pm Post subject: |
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Haha |
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smokinheels10 Outlaw
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Posted: Apr 24, 2010 4:01 pm Post subject: |
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Doesn't look like the sand thing is going to pan out like I was planning. What is everyone else doing for weight in the bow? Like I said earlier, I want it to be in the bow compartments under the seat. I don't want anything in the walkway or anything sitting on the seats that will take away seating. Am I just out of luck considering I don't want to give that up? |
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brichter14 Addict
Joined: 27 Apr 2008 Posts: 705
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Posted: Apr 24, 2010 5:07 pm Post subject: |
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Just buy some lead dumbells and throw them out if your boat is sinking. _________________ Lake Shelbyville, IL |
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Ethan31 Soul Rider
Joined: 10 Jul 2005 Posts: 335 City: Steamboat Lake, MN
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Posted: Apr 25, 2010 6:03 pm Post subject: |
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They make smaller fat sacks that would fit in the compartments. |
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smokinheels10 Outlaw
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Posted: May 20, 2010 5:56 am Post subject: |
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Another alternative I'd like to ask about. Would it be just as effective putting 400-500 pounds in the ski locker and 200 in the bow as it would putting 400 in the bow? Which would produce the best results? |
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brichter14 Addict
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Posted: May 20, 2010 7:33 am Post subject: |
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i would say more weight in the bow than in the locker. I have 400 sack in the bow and 275 in sand in the locker _________________ Lake Shelbyville, IL |
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cloead Newbie
Joined: 04 Jul 2006 Posts: 27 City: cleveland
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Posted: May 20, 2010 9:19 am Post subject: |
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This year we added the Quicksilver QST5 19p prop to our boat. (Same as the merc hi-5, without the vents, and $200 less) Got it for $415 shipped.
Holeshot is GREATLY improved. Much less messing with the throttle to maintain a constant speed. Does not care if there if weight in the boat or not.
Also new for this year I bough two 440lb sacks. The pump is supposed to be delivered today so I will finally be able to fill the sacs all the way (I had topped them off with a hose, got them MAYBE half full). Will post updated pics after this weekend.
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brichter14 Addict
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Posted: May 21, 2010 7:32 am Post subject: |
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Where are you putting the sacs? _________________ Lake Shelbyville, IL |
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smokinheels10 Outlaw
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Posted: May 30, 2010 7:43 am Post subject: |
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I ordered one of the ski locker sacks and put it far enough up into the bow through the ski locker that it was like having it sit on the floor with the tip of the bag in the bow. Put about 600 pounds in it and it made a HUGE difference. Wake was much larger and had a lip to it. |
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cloead Newbie
Joined: 04 Jul 2006 Posts: 27 City: cleveland
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Posted: Jul 13, 2010 9:30 am Post subject: |
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brichter14 wrote: | Where are you putting the sacs? |
I put the two 440 sacs in the bow/middle area. I have storage in the floor that is dead center in the boat. Goes about 2 feet into the cuddy and 2 feet under the floor. Made a big difference. Looking for something to put near the back of the boat now. |
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ckdollar Criminal
Joined: 28 Mar 2010 Posts: 75
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Posted: Jul 14, 2010 6:39 am Post subject: |
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I have a Sea Ray 205 and put a 350 in ski locker, a 350 in the front mid area, and two Skylon Fat Buddies (580 pounds total) in the back compartments on the side of the engine and it turns out really good. |
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oakley12 Newbie
Joined: 02 Mar 2010 Posts: 5
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Posted: Sep 29, 2010 8:58 pm Post subject: |
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hey got a 18' bayliner 185 with a 4 cylinder, wanted to get a new prop for a bigger wake, wondering if any suggestions on one that would work best for my boat and engine |
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revelation Outlaw
Joined: 06 Apr 2005 Posts: 213 City: Annapolis
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Posted: May 28, 2011 2:50 am Post subject: |
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oakley12, A new prop won't help a whole lot with giving you a bigger wake, but it will help with the hole shot and speed control, thus making it much easier for you to sac the boat out for a bigger wake. A merc hi5 or quickslver dst is the way to go if you have the spare $$$. |
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