For all you trick experts

Elevation · Posted: Mar 14, 2005 8:29 pm Post subject: For all you trick experts

here is a little trivia question for all of you trick name experts out there. one day my friend and i were discussing tricks and a hardflip came up. we got into discussing the difference between a hardflip and an inward kickflip. i say that the name inward kickflip doesnt exist because it is the same trick as a hardflip (fs flip without the 180). he argues that a hardflip is where the board flips more vertically (half impossible hhalf kickfliP) and that an inward kickflip is a fs flip without the 180. so if these tricks could be cleared up that would be great. haha peace Cool

Jester · Posted: Mar 14, 2005 9:57 pm Post subject:

A hardflip is a frontside popshuvit with a kickflip, basically a frontside flip without you doing the 180. It looks like an impossible/kickflip combo, but it's not.

The term inward kickflip doesn't exist. It sounds like a backside popshuvit with a kickflip, which would be a varial kickflip.

Before this argument comes up I'm clearing it up now; varial heelflips are a frontside popshuvit with a heelflip, inward heelflips are a backside popshuvit with a heelflip.

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Jester is a trick expert

Elevation · Posted: Mar 15, 2005 1:40 pm Post subject:

Jester, that is what i thought. Thank you for clearing it up. i have never even heard anybody call anything an inward kickflip, but my friend was arguing with me and thought id get some references for him and prove him wrong haha.

NorthwestRider · Posted: Mar 15, 2005 2:02 pm Post subject:

I know what your friend is thinking Elevation, tell him hes dumb and he doesn't need to get that technical. the difference in what your saying is like the difference between an indy grab closer to your front foot or doing grabbing closer to your back foot, but still between you feet. they are both indy and its the style of how you do them. So its a hard flip.

Elevation · Posted: Mar 15, 2005 2:47 pm Post subject:

that is what i told him.... its just a matter of spinning the board like a Vflip or more vertically. i need to show him a video of somebody doing a FS flip where it looks like they do a hardflip and a body varial not so much a kickflip 180

Jester · Posted: Mar 15, 2005 5:24 pm Post subject:

Cab's frontside flips are super hardflipped out, you can show him one of those.

Elevation · Posted: Mar 15, 2005 5:53 pm Post subject:

Jester, for sure.

Fredrick Eisenhauer · Posted: Mar 16, 2005 5:43 am Post subject:

I've heard a hard flip done horizontal be called a semi flip aswell.

Enzoborder230 · Posted: Mar 16, 2005 4:20 pm Post subject:

he prbly got the term inward heelflip from tony hawks pro skater, its in there

Elevation · Posted: Mar 16, 2005 4:31 pm Post subject:

ar230border, you mean inward kickflip? yes he did

Elevation · Posted: Mar 16, 2005 4:32 pm Post subject:

that is the only downside of that game is sometimes the trick names arent legit, though i guess some people do call a layed out hardflip and inward kf (i asked my friend and he calls it that, weird.)

eklipse · Soul Rider Joined: 30 May 2004 Posts: 315 City: Ladysmith

Okay Jester, I have one for you. I'm confused with the differneces between a hardflip and a varial flip. What I see in both is a kickflip with a pop shuv it. Maybe you can clarify this for me..

Elevation · Posted: Mar 16, 2005 7:00 pm Post subject:

eklipse, a varial flip is a kickflip with a backside shuvit (in front of you). And a hardflip is a kickflip with a frontside shuvit (also known as the infamous half impossible, half kickflip)

eklipse · Soul Rider Joined: 30 May 2004 Posts: 315 City: Ladysmith

ahhh, I see now...

Jester · Posted: Mar 17, 2005 12:45 am Post subject:

Inward heelflip is a legit term. There have been some incorrect terms thrown around in the Tony Hawk series, but for the most part they do a good job. Better than most skate games anyways.

Seems like the hardflip varial flip confusion is solved. Hardflips are definitely difficult to discern. That's why I'm attaching a sequence from the hardflip master, Chet Thomas.

Jester · Posted: Mar 17, 2005 1:23 am Post subject:

Chet Thomas hardflip

Jester · Posted: Mar 17, 2005 1:25 am Post subject:

hardflip continued

Jester · Posted: Mar 17, 2005 1:26 am Post subject:

hardflip finish

Jester · Posted: Mar 17, 2005 1:29 am Post subject:

I also snagged a sequence of Chet frontside flipping in a hardflip-esque fashion.

Jester · Posted: Mar 17, 2005 1:31 am Post subject:

more frontside flip

Jester · Posted: Mar 17, 2005 1:33 am Post subject:

frontside flip finish

Liquid*Force*Rider · Posted: Mar 17, 2005 8:21 am Post subject:

Jester, Nice clips, that explanes it. Mr. Green

Elevation · Posted: Mar 17, 2005 4:08 pm Post subject:

Jester, thanks those are sweet seqs

wake_quake · Posted: Mar 18, 2005 6:56 pm Post subject:

man its amazing how high they get