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wakeboarder07
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PostPosted: Feb 22, 2005 4:13 pm    Post subject: Need some input... Reply with quote

Hey,
I'm doing a research paper and It's like I'm trying to persuade people to thinking that wakeboarding is better than waterskiing...What the benefits are for wakeboarding rather than waterskiing...
Like...
-Injuries while wakeboarding/injuries while waterskiing
-excitment while wakeboarding/excitment while waterskiing
...Stuff like that

Thanks in advance...
~*Becca*~
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PostPosted: Feb 22, 2005 4:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

How abou that you would be bored out of your mind if it weren't for wakeboarding Mr. Green
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PostPosted: Feb 22, 2005 4:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

being able to fly like a bird.
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PostPosted: Feb 22, 2005 4:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

wakeboarder07, injuries while wakeboarding are typically worse b/c the waterski's typically release better, causing less injuries (except for Icaps new innovation...). As far as hype, you can do more on a wakeboard...what can you do on ski's?...go back and forth, jump the wake...and that is pretty much it. Wakeboarding has endless moves b/c the boards are twin tipped and ready for action.
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PostPosted: Feb 22, 2005 5:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wakeboarddrumma, lol yeah that would work, but thats not 1000 words, haha...

Bowen, thanks
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PostPosted: Feb 22, 2005 5:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

oh and did i see you get to spend MUCH more money
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PostPosted: Feb 22, 2005 6:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Skiing is boring. Boarding is exciting b/c there are so many things to try.

As for injuries... You have better ankle support on a board, don't do the splits (unless wakeskating Laughing ) but you don't faceplant as much on skis.

I bought my 1st boat 2 years ago, and I have never 2 planked it behind it. I rode skis only twice ever. Its just boring.

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PostPosted: Feb 23, 2005 1:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Skiing and boarding are completely different sports, and I think people are drawn to them for completely different reasons. For me, nothing quite compares to the rush and speed of blasting through the slalom course at 32off at 36mph, or cutting as hard as you can into a 5.5ft tall ramp at 32mph and flying 100+ ft (200+ for the pros!).
Then there are those of you that have said, "What can you do on skis except go back and forth across the wake?" - Look at trick skiing. People have been doing many of the same tricks as on a wakeboard plus many that you cant do on a wakeboard (toe tricks, body overs, line tricks etc) for years.
Dont even get me started on barefooting/hydrofoiling/etc!

Now that I've got that out of my system and defended waterskiing a bit, I'll have to say that I love to wakeboard too. Wakeboarding is a rush for completely different reasons though. Wakeboarding is a lot less structured, and can have a really nice flow to it. It is quite a bit easier for a beginner to pick up compared to some of the other diciplines, and a beginner can progress through to simple inverts in less than a season with some diciplined training.
Its just a blast to be out on the boat for a day in the sun. Doesn't matter to me how or what you ride!
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PostPosted: Feb 23, 2005 1:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can't boost an air or do any arial tricks on waterski's. Wakeboarding allows you to do any one of the hundreds of tricks out their, you cant get bored because there is just so much material to cover and so much to learn, and besides, when you waterski you look like a goon.
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PostPosted: Feb 23, 2005 1:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Waterskiing is very structured like mathematics-- speed, distance, timing.

Wakeboarding is very artistic--flow, tricks, air, freedom.

Neither is better/worse than the other.

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PostPosted: Feb 23, 2005 2:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chicks dig wakeboarding, and scars.


I think it is a preference on what you are looking for. Most skiers are looking for a competitive situation and shaving fractions of a second off of their time.

Wakeboarders are all about drinking the first beer at 9a.m. and continuing this until they are asleep. Between these two beverages they slam beats, mack strong, and throw the biggest and baddest tricks that they can do. Get pumped about a new grab, or a new way to do their old tricks. Talk stuff. and then slam beats, and mack strong.....its a totally a circular situation that always comes back to having fun and not keeping up with stats and how tuned their skis are....
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PostPosted: Feb 23, 2005 2:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Becca,

In a effort to help you with your paper, I think its help us to understand if this is a 'research' paper or 'persuasive' paper. If this is research, you really can't say why one is better than the other because it cannot be proven, its personal preference.

I myself am more of a skier (competitive) however, I do enjoy to wakeboard (been doing it for 5 years) here and there, and just come to this site during work to get a break. I will provide a skiers point of view, so hopefully this can help you make your arguement (or actually realize how similar the two sports are).

Injuries, in both sports are pretty much the same. The reason they can be so severe in skiing is because of the speed. Going over the front of your ski at 50-60 mph seriously sucks. Combined with todays bindings and how tight they are, you're asking for broken ankles or tearing several ligiments. As Bradb mentioned, professional jumpers are hitting 6ft tall ramps at 70 mph, flying between 200 and 300 ft...nearly 25-30 ft. off the water. Crashes happen, and when they do, its almost always a trip to the hospital, and could end a season, if not a career.

The excitement all determines what each person prefers. I personally enjoy the speed of chasing buoys in the slalom course. Like I said above, there is no other watersport that can match its speed.

Wakeboarding you get to do endless amounts of tricks, and you do get to be behind the boat a lot longer.

As for all the wakeboarders, I think you really need to look at trick skiing and how it is probably the hardest 'board/ski' sport out there. You don't get quite the air, but there are several inverts, many the exact same as wakeboard but performed on the ski is twice as hard. Also, try holding the rope with one foot while you jump the wake, jump over the top of the rope while doing a 360, all on a board 1/2 the size of a wakeboard and an absolutely flat bottom of the ski. I personally hate trick skiing, I think because its so hard, and have the upmost respect for those who can do it.

Like everyone always says, its a matter of personal preference, which I totally agree.

I remember always trying to write persuasive papers, so make sure you point out the pros and cons of everything. Don't choose the arguement that water skiing is stupid or easy, because you wouldn't have your facts straight. Good Luck on the paper.
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PostPosted: Feb 23, 2005 2:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

trick skiing looks really goofy to me. I have no desire to learn. The guy I saw was doing all sorts of spins and stuff... I couldn't help but laugh at him.

I'd consider trick skiing like wind-surfing. Extremely difficult and not much reward for the work.

As for going fast... to each his own. I'd rather go fast in a motorcycle dodging traffic Twisted Evil Twisted Evil

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PostPosted: Feb 23, 2005 2:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have alot more respect for skiers after seeing the pictures of my dad going wake to wake on a ski.
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PostPosted: Feb 23, 2005 9:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm 36 years old. My dad got his first boat when I was 10 and wakeboarding didn't exist. I tried doubles and singles and to be honest with you I like tubbing more than sking.

In 1995 I borrowed a skurfer from my friend and I was instantly hooked I bought my first wakeboard a week later ( Hyperlite Heer 147 ).

My point is I got bored with ski's after only a few pulls and I've been a wakeboard fanatic for 10 years now. just my $.02

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PostPosted: Feb 24, 2005 8:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks guys!!! You've been alot of help! Very Happy
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PostPosted: Feb 24, 2005 8:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

nashvillematt, actually skiers all go the same speed. Skiing is about how many bouys you can go around at a certain length of rope. I dont know if any of you have ever tried to ski a course, but getting one bouy at 36 mph is pretty damn hard. The bouys are like 28 feet away from the boat? I could be wrong, but when pros start getting into the 41 off range (34 ft. rope), they have to get the rope almost perpendicular to the boat. Now, I'm not a skiier or anything, but I have respect for the people that do it.

Now, for me, I hate skiing. I'll try maybe once a year because the rest of my family is hardcore skiers. Once I get done however I am always rushing to the dock to throw the pump in the water to fill the sacs.
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PostPosted: Feb 24, 2005 9:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ben746 - Just a small correction, the buoys are 37.5 feet from center of the course (ideally where the pylon is). At 41 off, the handle of the rope can be, at best 3.5 feet inside the buoy. Like you said..Pretty damn hard, and VERY impressive.
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PostPosted: Feb 25, 2005 11:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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