180's, 360's and backrolls and tantrums

[wakefreak05]

Hey,
I was just wondering and all of these tricks i mentioned you see i can do solid wake to wake on both sides with grabs and stuff and 1 wake 180, but i dont feel right trying a 2 wake on i would rather try a 360 hs, can u help, also i think i am getting to the point were i should start some flips like a b roll or a tantrum which one should i think of doing when i get there because i dont feel like i could get the rotation with the back roll but i feel like with a tantrum i could flip backward which is easyer please help.

[HyperliteRidr134]

Tantrums are a sinch, come in hard on your heelside, generate a solid pop and throw your head back (while letting go with your back hand) and thrust your chest up. The more aggressive you are on this trick, the more mistakes you will be able to get away with. As for the HS 360, again generate good pop and then pull that handle hard to your back hip (this will generate the spin) and lead with your head and grab that handle with your lead hand. You won't be able to see your landing, but it's easy to ride away with one hand on the rope, good luck.

[Fredrick Eisenhauer]

I find ts 360's easier off the back of the wake. I find I get alot more nicer spin, just keep looking over your shoulder and reach for the handle. The trouble I had with ts 360's was the landing, over rotating. But it just takes a little practice to stop your rotation.

[wakeboardwillis]

you should push yourself to beconsistand with the wake to wake 180s and 360's before you go into inverts. If you want some serious help with you tricks i suggest you pick up a tutorial video. I just got detention vol. 1 & 2 with shaun murray and it helps a lot.

[wakefreak05]

Thanks for that guys so your saying if i would feel more comfortable doing a tantrum than b roll go into it hard and with the 360 i should try that if i dont think i can do the 180 because they just feel weird and i hate them. Bye

[Wakebrad]

wakefreak05, learn how to ride switch. Start with toeside 180s then go to hs 180s. You won't be able to get a 3 consistent before you're comfortable enough to land 180s.

Inverts are a little different. You can start inverts as soon as you have a clean progressive wake to wake jump with good height. If you think the tantrum seems easier I would try it first. Cut into the wake like a normal w2w then when you get to the top of the wake turn your body towards shore and lean back.

What I would do is work on both at the same time. Work on your 180s and work on tantrums. With 180s you should be able to start small and work up to going big without falling too many times.