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PostPosted: Dec 19, 2004 9:45 pm    Post subject: Math help Reply with quote

dose any one know how to build a tesla coil i have to build one for my math final
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PostPosted: Dec 19, 2004 10:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

look it up on the internet.
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PostPosted: Dec 19, 2004 10:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I tried and I can't find any good sites
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PostPosted: Dec 20, 2004 12:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Your building a tesla coil for a math final?

i belive the simple way to do it is have a coli inulated on a rubber stand then have a rubber conveir belt with melt paritions in it, and a - hot power source at the bottom, the conveyer turnrs constantly and rubs the metal poitns agains the coil and then they go down to the bottom and rub the - source and collect electrons after awhile this builds a massive negative charge ont he coil and it will discharge to the nearest source or ground.

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PostPosted: Dec 20, 2004 12:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yeah, was that supposed to sounds like that? Or is my mind just in the gutter?
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PostPosted: Dec 20, 2004 12:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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yeah, was that supposed to sounds like that? Or is my mind just in the gutter?


What are you talking about? Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Dec 20, 2004 12:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I tried and I can't find any good sites


what the hell did you do? yell at the screen? make a wish to the internet fairy?

go to yahoo and type in tesla coil. there's about 10 how to sites that come up.
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PostPosted: Dec 20, 2004 1:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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yeah, was that supposed to sounds like that? Or is my mind just in the gutter?


gutter definately.

however when i read it i instantly though of the band Tesla. hooray 80's butt-rock!
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PostPosted: Dec 20, 2004 2:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

BigRed none of them have plans on how to build one


Jibsta have you built one

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PostPosted: Dec 20, 2004 2:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

why dont you look in your math textbook??
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PostPosted: Dec 20, 2004 2:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sure they don't.


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PostPosted: Dec 20, 2004 2:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You gotta love Google http://www.google.com/search?q=how+to+build+a+tesla+coil&start=0&start=0&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:unofficial
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PostPosted: Dec 20, 2004 3:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

if you give him the answer he's never going to learn.
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PostPosted: Dec 20, 2004 3:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wait, am I really the only one who read into that? Come on, "hot power source", "rubs the source", "discharge to the ground"? Wow, I must really be deprived or something. I don't usually think like that.

Okay, I'm crazy.

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PostPosted: Dec 20, 2004 3:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Wait, am I really the only one who read into that? Come on, "hot power source", "rubs the source", "discharge to the ground"? Wow, I must really be deprived or something. I don't usually think like that.

Okay, I'm crazy.


No, you're fine. it's just that us guys don't like to think that hard. It's alot easier for us to type "boobies" into yahoo's search bar and go to town.
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PostPosted: Dec 20, 2004 6:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

BigRed what site did you find that on
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PostPosted: Dec 20, 2004 6:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

cowgirl, don't feel too bad, I sort of thought that too.
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PostPosted: Dec 20, 2004 7:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have never built one, why woul di want a big thing that shoots electricity.
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PostPosted: Dec 20, 2004 7:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jibsta I have a 66 in that class and if i build it I get 300 extra credit point
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PostPosted: Dec 20, 2004 9:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Someone just needs to get laid...
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PostPosted: Dec 20, 2004 9:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I sense some tension Laughing
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PostPosted: Dec 21, 2004 8:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

HyperRash wrote:
BigRed what site did you find that on


if you're not bright enough to do any of the following:

A) Study and Go to class, where they probably told you how to do this
B) Do a search on yahoo for 'Tesla Coil' and look at any of the first 10 posts
C) Look at any of the links posted in this thread
D) Be able to figure out where that picture is linked to

then you deserve to fail your final.
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PostPosted: Dec 21, 2004 8:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gotta say I agree with BigRed on this one...

I found a schematic in about 30 seconds... Rolling Eyes




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PostPosted: Dec 21, 2004 8:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bigred and Hyperash

I have to agree with BR. There are multitudes of plans for a tesla coil on the net.

If you haven't found any, perhaps it's God's way of saying you shouldn't mess around with electricity. An arc of electricity flying between two electrodes is not really something for you to play with.

You are sixteen according to your profile. Do you really think building a Tesla coil is appropriate? They rarely work the first time out and you have to tweak and tune them - actually play and work with electricity.

Perhaps a less ambitious project? 25thousand volts is nothing to mess around with. ( very cheap method using a car's ignition coil )

Much like holding on to the ignition wire of a car.

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PostPosted: Dec 21, 2004 8:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Leggester -

I would hope that the teacher is just looking for plans and a basic understanding of them for our hero to pull off a passing grade.

If they are actually planning on BUILDING a Tesla Coil, then the Internet is a dangerous place! Shocked

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PostPosted: Dec 21, 2004 8:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, he says "build one for my math final". That's pretty precise. And a bit dangerous.
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PostPosted: Dec 21, 2004 8:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Something is fishy here from the start. A sophomore/junior MATH class building a Tesla coil? I have a hard time believing this.

Here's some more concerns:

1.0) Electrical Hazards, Fuses and Safety Switches
Tesla coils use high voltages, and the risk of death or injury is significant. The following general guidelines are suggested:


Never adjust tesla coils when the power is turned on.

High voltage capacitors may hold a charge long after power is turned off. Always discharge capacitors before adjusting a primary circuit.

Make sure the metal cases of transformers, motors, control panels and other items associated with tesla coils are properly grounded.

Make sure that you are far enough away from the corona discharge so that it cannot strike you. Do not come in contact with metal objects which might be subject to a strike from the secondary.

The low voltage primary circuit is extremely dangerous! These voltages are especially lethal to humans. Make sure these circuits are well insulated so users cannot come in contact with the A.C. line voltage.

A safety key should be used in the low voltage circuit to prevent unauthorized use.

Use adequate fusing of the primary power and/or circuit breakers to limit the maximum current to your control panel. Do NOT count on your home circuit panel to provide adequate protection!

Never operate a tesla coil in an area where there is standing water, or where a significant shock hazard exists.

Do not operate a tesla coil when pets or small children are present.

Spend some time laying out your circuits. Hot glue, electrical tape and exposed wiring are quick and easy, but could be lethal.

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PostPosted: Dec 21, 2004 9:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jibsta wrote:
i belive the simple way to do it is have a coli inulated on a rubber stand then have a rubber conveir belt with melt paritions in it, and a - hot power source at the bottom, the conveyer turnrs constantly and rubs the metal poitns agains the coil and then they go down to the bottom and rub the - source and collect electrons after awhile this builds a massive negative charge ont he coil and it will discharge to the nearest source or ground.


I believe you're describing a Van DeGraff Generator. A Tesla coil is merely a transformer that jumps the voltage way up and the amperage way way down. (If I remember my physics correctly.)

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PostPosted: Dec 21, 2004 10:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Leggester wrote:
An arc of electricity flying between two electrodes is not really something for you to play with.


I beg to differ. Playing with arcing electricity is the entire point of a Tesla coil. You just have to be sure that you have the voltage/amperage converted correctly. Very Happy


In college physics, each semester we had a "design your own" lab project. In physics 102 (electricity and magnetism) I had a couple demented lab partners, so we decided to do a test to determine how much potential difference (voltage) a van degraff generator produces. Using the dielectric constant for air, we decided to determine the voltage by seeing how far a spark would jump from the generator. Rather than place an inanimate ground near the generator for the spark to jump to, we decided to use a person for the test. Twisted Evil The one lucky lab partner (Steve) held a meter stick with one end touching the generator. He held it at arms length and kept a finger outstretched on it so we could record the measurements. He kept moving the hand further down the meter stick to see the maximum distance, hence maximum voltage, that the spark would jump. At first it wasn't that big a deal. But, as he moved further down the stick, there would be more and more time between sparks as the generator built up the necessary charge.

Things started to get really funny towards the end. I think the professor gave us extra points just for the entertainment factor. When we started hitting the maximum distance, the jolts would actually make Steve's toes twitch. I'd have to dig up the lab papers to say for sure, but I believe the maximum distance the spark covered worked out to be upwards of 6 million volts.

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PostPosted: Dec 21, 2004 11:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It takes only 100mA to stop your heart.
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PostPosted: Dec 21, 2004 11:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

actually, I believe it is 10mA..

HyperRash, please take video of you making this, and leave a note instructing whoever finds your body (in the next room) to post the video on this site.
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PostPosted: Dec 21, 2004 12:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

churchy wrote:
actually, I believe it is 10mA..

HyperRash, please take video of you making this, and leave a note instructing whoever finds your body (in the next room) to post the video on this site.



LOL.

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PostPosted: Dec 21, 2004 12:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Its just a big extra credit project and If i don't pass this year I have boot camp for the whole summer thats the only reason I'm building one
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PostPosted: Dec 21, 2004 1:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Buy one. Take it apart and reassemble it in a way that makes it look like you built it. Hand it in for the extra credit.
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PostPosted: Dec 21, 2004 1:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

HyperRash wrote:
Its just a big extra credit project and If i don't pass this year I have boot camp for the whole summer thats the only reason I'm building one


Have fun at boot camp.
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