Demacratic Majority Loser!

Mullet Man · Outlaw Joined: 15 Jan 2003 Posts: 132 City: SoCal

Now is the time to support our President but here is what Demacrat Majority "leader" had to say:

"I'm saddened, saddened that this president failed so miserably at diplomacy that we're now forced to war. Saddened that we have to give up one life because this president couldn't create the kind of diplomatic effort that was so critical for our country."

Here is a link to send him an email and tell him how pathetic his lack of support is:

http://daschle.senate.gov/webform.html

Nor*Cal · Ladies Man Joined: 12 Jan 2003 Posts: 9479 City: Sac

Nice thought Mullet Man. Everything I was trying to say ended up as an attack upon the idiot and I'm sure he doesn't read that kind of fan mail so I didn't send it.

Jim M · Wakeboarder.com Freak Joined: 17 Jan 2003 Posts: 2933

Its ok to speak your mind, thats why our Senate and House encourage diversity and thats why we have representation from both Democrats and Republicans. But to go against your President, and to disgrace all the troops over there who love our country and who are sworn to follow orders, and to make that big of a National statement right after the President urges us to unite is a huuuuge deal if you ask me.

I hope the majority of the nation sees that as an extremely disgusting gesture on his part and I hope he endures some major ridicule. Not for his beliefs, but for his actions. If the UN Security Council has a 15/15 unanimous vote and the powers that be say its officially too late for diplomacy, then maybe you should sack up and do your job and stand behind your country. He will have to live with it, maybe he will make another 'statement' and resign since he is so ademate about going against our leader.

akirachan · Criminal Joined: 11 Feb 2003 Posts: 61

I don't agree with him, but I don't agree with Michael Jackson either, and they both have about the same amount of influence on the war at this point.

Jim M · Wakeboarder.com Freak Joined: 17 Jan 2003 Posts: 2933

Funny, and true to an extent- I saw an interview w/ troops stationed overseas and they said that seeing that stupid *&$% turn her back to the flag in protest made their stomachs drop. What we say and do over here does have an effect on our soldiers over there.

It won't alter the objective, hugging trees never will, but its still a shame to see.

akirachan · Criminal Joined: 11 Feb 2003 Posts: 61

Well, I do agree that he needs to support the people over there who are fighting so that he can sit on his butt and complain without having to worry about being attacked by some sideways pscho named Saddam.

wake152 · Posted: Mar 18, 2003 11:57 am Post subject:

what a jackass, we should send him over on the frontlines to fight

ohsix · Posted: Mar 18, 2003 4:44 pm Post subject:

someone should send him some more anthrax.

Jello John · Wakeboarder.Commie Joined: 12 Jan 2003 Posts: 1936

Nor*Cal · Ladies Man Joined: 12 Jan 2003 Posts: 9479 City: Sac

I'm more than willing to go and fight for my country if it comes to that. This should be a swift conflict. I wouldn't be supporting a war I'm not willing to risk my life for.

ohsix · Posted: Mar 18, 2003 6:44 pm Post subject:

I agree with what nor*cal just said. I would be more than happy to go fight for my country tomorrow if they need me.

jello- i wasnt serious about the anthrax. after thinking about it that's not cool even if i dont like the guy.

Jim M · Wakeboarder.com Freak Joined: 17 Jan 2003 Posts: 2933

Well what sucks is its not going to be swift- the ruthless pummeling will be probably 4-5 days, but our soldiers will have to stick around for a long time. Reason- keeping the peace. The UN is hoping for a straight up liberation of Iraq, so our soldiers will have to literally stay on site and help by serving as diplomats, police, protectors, first aid, etc.. for the cities and communities. That is the part that sucks, even guys called over from Reserve and National Guard may be there for at least 6 months if not longer.

MadDog · Soul Rider Joined: 13 Jan 2003 Posts: 465 City: Upstate NY

This guy should be removed from office! That is not what we should see from the senate minority leader. This is the time to support our troops, and our president, not to make baseless attacks on the president. This president did not fail at diplomacy, diplomacy has failed for 12 years.

B-rad · Posted: Mar 19, 2003 8:51 am Post subject:

I just emailed him a letter of disapproval, even though I'm a GOP fan I still feel this country should be united in a time of war. Especially in the ranks of Legislative, Judical, and Executive.

Todd Armstrong · Addict Joined: 04 Feb 2003 Posts: 758 City: Battle Ground

I can not believe the ignorance of all of you, a person is intitaled to his own opinon. If any of you knew than the UN and 1/2 of America was with Daschle in opposing this "war". I beleive that Saddam has to be removed from power but Bush is rushing to force and could be sending many troops to there death all because he is trying to do a job his father failed to complete. Why force a mad man up against a wall, in his own backyard were he has used chemical weapons on his own people. What makes you think all the people and troops being subjected to that will do?

I am a 100% American, but I am able to look at aboth sides before I make decison. I support our troops and would die for my county if needed, but this is an unsupported, and unautherized attack that not even all of our troops support.

B-rad · Posted: Mar 19, 2003 9:54 am Post subject:

To quote: Hellp kettle, thank you for calling me black"-
"I can not believe the ignorance of all of you"- that comment in itself is ignorant- then you say- "a person is intitaled to his own opinon"- exaclty, so if this is our opinion (obvisouly, it is) than your opinion would be just as ignorant as ours... thanks for playing the game.

Todd Armstrong · Addict Joined: 04 Feb 2003 Posts: 758 City: Battle Ground

Todd Armstrong · Addict Joined: 04 Feb 2003 Posts: 758 City: Battle Ground

60-100 billion of our own money to restructure there government. How small is our deficit, our schools are in great shape, our heath care is great, our cancer/AIDS recearch doesn't need money.

I feel all the treats and blindly following like sheep is the the one of themost Un-American things people can do. I know I am not ignorant I don't make comments like that of above this post. I feel some of the comments were ignorant, not because they were your opinons, but that they a come across as being ignorant.

MadDog · Soul Rider Joined: 13 Jan 2003 Posts: 465 City: Upstate NY

How about "I beleive that Saddam has to be removed from power but Bush is rushing to force and could be sending many troops to there death all because he is trying to do a job his father failed to complete" for ignorance. This is not a job his father failed to complete. The goals of the first gulf war were to liberate Kuwait, not overthrow Saddam. The UN gave Saddam the benefit of the doubt, and signed a peace treaty with him that outlined Iraq disarming, destrying their WOMD, etc. Saddam ignored that treaty from day 1. let's talk about

Jim M · Wakeboarder.com Freak Joined: 17 Jan 2003 Posts: 2933

Thats a shame to hear from you Todd.

Most of the people on this post are voicing their opinion and feel deep hearted disgust towards what Daschle said, whether or not they agree with the war or our cause is not the issue here. I know a lot of people that don't want war and they especially want to throw up on Daschles face for what he said. I personally feel that way because of the negative effects his comments can have on the morale of the troops overseas. We are on the brink of war and GUESS WHAT- its too late to piss and moan about it. Its sad that he can't buck up and be an American and stand behind our President, our troops, and our cause at a moment like this.

And you call posters on this site ignorant sheep, that really sucks to hear man.

Jim M · Wakeboarder.com Freak Joined: 17 Jan 2003 Posts: 2933

Todd Armstrong · Addict Joined: 04 Feb 2003 Posts: 758 City: Battle Ground

Mad Dog you seriously beleive that ours goals in the Gulf War were to liberate Kuwait? Then why did we train and outfit the Iraqi' rebels in the hope than they would overthrow Saddam. The only reason that Saddam is still in power is because President Bush ended the war 1 day to soon and the republican guard was allowed to live and that Swartzkoff signed the seizefire that allowed armed helicopters to fly in Iraqi airspace which Saddam used to slaughter the rebel uprising than Bush promised support to. Maddog have more problem with what you believe than I can ever address.

Jim I understand what Daschle is saying, I believe he should not have said it being in his position. I said "I feel all the treats and blindly following like sheep is the the one of the most Un-American things people can do" and your comment of "Its sad that he can't buck up and be an American and stand behind our President, our troops, and our cause at a moment like this." so he supess his true feeling and follow blindly, like a sheep? No or all americans should forget there opinons and follow our sheapard?

Free thought is a beautifull think, following what someone eles does because he said it was the right thing even though it feels wrong to you is the worst thing that can happen

Todd Armstrong · Addict Joined: 04 Feb 2003 Posts: 758 City: Battle Ground

I agree that his comment was a political move BECAUSE 50% OF AMERICANS OPPOSESS THIS WAR, and he is trying to get their support. I never said 1/2 of the US and the UN was behind Daschle's comment but that the were opposed to this war, read the comment. Not your view of what I said.

IT IS A FACT HALF OF AMERICAN IS AGAINST THIS WAR READ UP ON IT.

MadDog · Soul Rider Joined: 13 Jan 2003 Posts: 465 City: Upstate NY

Todd, give us a link to support your comment that 50% of Americans oppose the war. I have heard up until recently that something like 57% of Americans support the war, and after the president's speach that numbe jumped to something like 70%. I would love to hear more of the problems you have with what I believe. At least I try to present my beliefs calmly, and with facts, not just calling people ignorant, and making up facts.

MadDog · Soul Rider Joined: 13 Jan 2003 Posts: 465 City: Upstate NY

And to your point Todd, I agree that people should not be sheep and jsut follwo along with what the politcal leader of their choice says is the right thing to do. I believe in looking at the facts before I make a decision, and the facts that I have seen lead me to believe in what our Government is doing. I believe that the freedom of speech s one of the most powerful, and import freedoms we as Americans have. i also believe that there is a level of responsibility that goes along with it, especially for elected officials.

Todd Armstrong · Addict Joined: 04 Feb 2003 Posts: 758 City: Battle Ground

What facts did I make up, the ones about the first gulf war?
I am calm, I just can't type well. I just find it funny that you think we were only over there in 1991 to liberate Kuwait, there are 100 sides to that story.

Todd Armstrong · Addict Joined: 04 Feb 2003 Posts: 758 City: Battle Ground

I respect your opinon, and I feel is is a double edged sword. If I can across as dis reptful of the peole who deserve repect I am sorry. I just feel this is going to lead to an even stronger anti American backlash.

Todd Armstrong · Addict Joined: 04 Feb 2003 Posts: 758 City: Battle Ground

Sorry I typed to fast I ment to say " If I came across as disreseptful of the people who deserve repect I am sorry. "

MadDog · Soul Rider Joined: 13 Jan 2003 Posts: 465 City: Upstate NY

there are a hundred side to every story, so which one is right? We went to the Gulf in 91 after Iraq invaded it's neighbor Kuwait. The UN coalition liberated Kuwait, and impossed restrictions on the Iraqi military capabilities. The fact is that Saddam has been in violation of the treaty, and international law for over a decade, so how has this president failed at diplomacy as Daschle put it? It seems to me that diplomacy has been failing a lot longer than Bush has been in office.
All that I know is that if someone is breaking the law in my neighborhood that I expect that the police should do something about it. Saddam has been breaking the law by not complying with the original UN resolution set after the gulf war. Why should we continue to give him 2nd chances, 3rd chances. What type of governing body makes laws who's only consequence of breaking is for them to make another law saying please comply with the first? I think war is a terrible thing, but it is past time for action.

Todd Armstrong · Addict Joined: 04 Feb 2003 Posts: 758 City: Battle Ground

I agree something has to be done, I don't know what is right. I feel violence begets violence. I hope this invasion is swift and COMPLETE in its objectives. Leave no loose ends. We, as America are taking the law into our own hands against the wishes of the Police (the UN), it is vigalante justice. I agree with you on alot of pionts I just hope you can see the hidden agenda behind what the media presents the public.

Jello John · Wakeboarder.Commie Joined: 12 Jan 2003 Posts: 1936

[quote="Todd Armstrong"]60-100 billion of our own money to restructure there government. How small is our deficit, our schools are in great shape, our heath care is great, our cancer/AIDS recearch doesn't need money.[/ote]

You forgot to mention Bush's massive tax cuts.

ohsix · Posted: Mar 19, 2003 6:48 pm Post subject:

Todd Armstrong · Addict Joined: 04 Feb 2003 Posts: 758 City: Battle Ground

You have a very stated point that I agree with.

Nor*Cal · Ladies Man Joined: 12 Jan 2003 Posts: 9479 City: Sac

Well-said Wes... This is a war against the UN's appeasement. It's been proven time and time again that the UN is incapable of handling conflicts.

Why didn't we ask for a vote? With countries of significance like Cameroon and Syria on the UN security counsel does it really matter?

mellow24 · Outlaw Joined: 13 Jan 2003 Posts: 134 City: Tampa Bay Area

i feel like i have to yell..SO THERE IS ONE THING I HAVE BEEN TOLD SINCE I WAS LITTLE , IS TO NEVER TALK ABOUT RELIGION AND POLITICS IN PUBLIC.