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teaching the tantrum, slow the boat?

 
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PostPosted: Aug 16, 2004 8:57 am    Post subject: teaching the tantrum, slow the boat? Reply with quote

im trying to teach a friend to tantrum but hes to freaked out to try it at his normal riding speed (20.5 mph) cuz wenever he falls he gets so messed up. Do you think it would be a good idea to slow the boat down to 15 or 16 mph and have try it just 1 wake so he could learn the rotation and throwing it without getting beaten if he stalls out upside down?
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PostPosted: Aug 16, 2004 11:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

you really can't get a good progressive edge at 15-16mph. That is way too slow and he'll never be able to get enough speed to pop off the wake and trip himself. Tell him to stop being a wuss and deal with it. I've taken some bad falls while working on tantrums but you deal with it and suck it up. If he's afraid of the trick he will never be able to do it until he conquers the fear.
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PostPosted: Aug 16, 2004 12:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yea, just ho atleast 18 but 15 is waaaaay to slow: no air, no edge, no trick
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PostPosted: Aug 16, 2004 1:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i say go 19 then, dont let him back in the boat if he doesn't try one at that speed

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PostPosted: Aug 16, 2004 5:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

go 40.

that way when he falls nothing can hurt as much as that.

am i right?

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PostPosted: Aug 16, 2004 7:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

haha do as colefooter says
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PostPosted: Aug 16, 2004 9:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yah what we do is when the guy tells us to slow down we slow daown a bit the speed back up so he thinks he is going slower but actually goign the same speed...
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PostPosted: Aug 17, 2004 8:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dont slow down. get him to practice backflips on a tramp for hours at a time. its incredible how much getting used to the rotation will boost his confidence.
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PostPosted: Aug 18, 2004 6:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

flukdfilms, yeah i cant explain how much a trampoline helps on the water.colefooter, nice advatar lol.
HatzicMotive140, we do that alot.lol.

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PostPosted: Aug 18, 2004 6:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Keep the boat the same speed. Tell him to think more about the pop first then the rotation. If you wait on the pop, everything else comes easy. Make sure he opens up too, meaning square your shoulders up with the wake. Put some time in on the trampoline like the other guys said. Make sure you look straight back and not over your shoulder or you will start to spin. I did all this and was landing tantrums on my 4th try and i have never had a bad fall, and i suck.
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PostPosted: Aug 19, 2004 6:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

alright he did it and actually was planting them and then falling on the 3rd try
hopefully heel land one on his next outing....thanx for the advice

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PostPosted: Aug 19, 2004 9:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

landed one on the third try..no bad falls, no slowing down. but I have been on trampolines for years and they really help out with knowing where you are in the air.
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