TS Backroll help / Raley Help

colefooter · Posted: Jul 20, 2004 5:34 pm Post subject: TS Backroll help / Raley Help

Hey everyone,
Today I went out not knowing what exactly what to do, and tried a ts backroll because I wanted a new invert to try. Basically I went up the wake and threw everything back and i think it screwed up my rotation. Can someone walk me through what i am suppose to be doing on a ts backroll?

Also, raleys. I have landed ONE. I did this one a few days ago, but since then i haven't landed another. I go up and extended in the air, but i have trouble pulling it back in really fast. Whenever i pull it in it seems really slow, when i see others pull it in they go really quick. How do i speed up the pulling in process?

Any tips on either would be nice

Thanks

colefooter · Posted: Jul 21, 2004 5:13 pm Post subject:

Okay well i landed my raley ealier today, and have that figured out... now i just need some ts back roll advice

tparider · Posted: Jul 21, 2004 7:46 pm Post subject:

what was the solution on the raley? did you practive on a wakeskate first? I'm interested in the details....thanks.

colefooter · Posted: Jul 21, 2004 7:58 pm Post subject:

Well before my run i started out trying raleys on a wakeskate, which really helps. Just cut really hard, poped the board behind me and started at the tip of my tower then pulled it back in.

I think the wakeskate was the key to landing it though. When i was doing it on a skate, it didn't feel like it was going to help, but it really does. You just need to have good form with the skate. It also helps for bringing it back in because you get the feeling of landing it, just without a board.

I think i still might go throw some raleys on a skate again! They are fun to do !

studlystud08 · Criminal Joined: 01 Jun 2003 Posts: 87

we tried some raley's on the skate..that is FUN

colefooter · Posted: Jul 23, 2004 6:01 pm Post subject:

studlystud08, hah yeah, its really easy to do also.. plus it never hurts. i even tried a hoochie glide on my wakeskate today ... fun fun fun Laughing

boarder52002 · Soul Rider Joined: 27 Jul 2004 Posts: 454 City: Chicago

so it doesnt hurt to try a raley on the wakeskate even if you dont land on your feet. Or is it really easy to pull yourself back down.

DavidHoff · Posted: Aug 02, 2004 3:08 pm Post subject:

boarder52002, The only way its not going to hurt is if you land on your feet or if you know you'll bail so you dive head first into the water but If you land on your stomach it hurts and if you get scared and let go of the handle your momentum will carry your feet over your head and it will be like a front flip. My wakeskate raley attempts have not been successful lately.

colefooter · Posted: Aug 02, 2004 3:12 pm Post subject:

What is happening on your skate raleys? If they arn't successful

All you need to do is let your feet get thrown out by the wake, then pull as much back in as you can

most of all, don't let go

DavidHoff · Posted: Aug 02, 2004 3:19 pm Post subject:

I got 'em back successful again yesterday. It was cuz I was using the wake to throw my legs up and then using my power so my legs were flying over my head causing me to let go of the rope. Now I just need to dial them on a wakeboard before the end of summer. But those TS backrolls, those are a b*tch. I hadnt even been close on one all summer. Can you do a tantrum cuz I heard if you can dial those a ts backroll should be somewhat simple.

colefooter · Posted: Aug 02, 2004 4:08 pm Post subject:

Yeah i can do tantrum easily, though i don't see how that would help

DavidHoff · Posted: Aug 02, 2004 8:50 pm Post subject:

I guess it would help because the backroll ts is more like a tantum rotation with one hand on the handle and all. I guess it really wouldn't help. Just a thought...

Amy · Criminal Joined: 27 Apr 2004 Posts: 92 City: State College

Colefooter..The TS BR what are you having trouble with? The pop or the rotation?
The one tip, (I got it from here and I forget who gave the tip, but props to you b/c it helped me tremendously...),

Progressive cut in
Stand tall and at the top of the wake "hump the sky"
Everytime I do my TSBR and think, "hump the sky", I land it. It's all in the hips....
Also, keep both hands on the handle for 3/4 of the rotation....
Good Luck and hump the sky Razz

holdsworth · Posted: Aug 03, 2004 5:36 am Post subject:

hump the sky?

it's true, just toss your head back and bring your knees TOWARD your chest, not fully up, and spot your landing. it's not a hard trick at all. try the r 2 r by holdiong on with both hands and just see how you do that way

have you tried an elephant yet?

XxWakeboardxX · Criminal Joined: 06 Jul 2003 Posts: 87

When I was first trying TS rolls I wouldn't ride the wake up, and kinda whipped the rotation, so I slipped out everytime, not sure if this helps w/ what you're doing, but it helped me just to ride up the wake more.

wakeguy2008 · Addict Joined: 16 Jul 2003 Posts: 847 City: Ft. Myers

i tried a ts backroll on a wakeskate. ( tried to grab the deck ) . i seen someone do it so i was curious to see how i would do....now im still curious....only now its about how he did it..lol.

wakeguy2008 · Addict Joined: 16 Jul 2003 Posts: 847 City: Ft. Myers

Wake4Life08, im tryin to get him to try a elephant....maybe ill do one of those if i do it u do it stunts....painful on my part tho... Laughing

colefooter · Posted: Aug 03, 2004 3:48 pm Post subject:

Haha sure wakeguy2008, we do that alot don't we. Ill try ts backroll tommorow

Humping the sky, interesting. I hope it works for me, that way i can go around telling people to hunp the sky! haha

Alec, ill try a elephant if you do hahahaha.... after that t2r attempt i think ill go back to ts broll and stuff lol I didn't go out today, because i went to a bengals training camp

got carson palmer to sign my hat! along with a bunch of other pros to sign my pic i had

wakeguy2008 · Addict Joined: 16 Jul 2003 Posts: 847 City: Ft. Myers

lol nice
come over when ur wantin to go out....ill try an elephant lol.

colefooter · Posted: Aug 04, 2004 6:27 am Post subject:

ill call you if im going boardin soon

wakeguy2008 · Addict Joined: 16 Jul 2003 Posts: 847 City: Ft. Myers

well prolly not today....considering that there is a tornado wacth outside..lol. dang ohio.

colefooter · Posted: Aug 04, 2004 9:18 am Post subject:

once it passes it should be glass i think...

i hope Rolling Eyes

wakeguy2008 · Addict Joined: 16 Jul 2003 Posts: 847 City: Ft. Myers

hey colefooter, did it ever pass??? lol , u got out there and it started pouring....ohio blows doesnt it?

colefooter · Posted: Aug 05, 2004 7:14 am Post subject:

yeah it was raining like crazy, but i still went

i tried the ts backroll, and almost landed. i think i went r2r though, oh well ill try more today and see what happens

J_DOGG · Posted: Aug 05, 2004 8:36 am Post subject:

colefooter, most people land the r2r first, cuz they hold on with two hands just a tad too long.... you are right there, keep at it....

Great Lakes Rider · Newbie Joined: 03 Aug 2004 Posts: 36

Be sure to keep the handle pushed towards your back pocket (of your lead leg of course) throughout the entire rotation, especially after you let go with your back hand and on landing. That was my biggest problem, learning the TS Backroll. I would always start to go to revert because the handle would drift across my belly throughout the rotation. Keep the handle on your back pocket, spot your landing early, and get your weight on your toes for the landing. Oh yeah, don't be afraid to bend your knees on the landing, so many people don't bend their legs when landing TS and just end up slipping out becuase they are stiff-legged.

Keep at it, you'll have it in no time. Good Luck!

colefooter · Posted: Aug 05, 2004 11:40 am Post subject:

im pretty sure i will end up landing ts r2r soon, so for r2r i just hold on with both hands?

Greg Smith · Posted: Aug 08, 2004 2:51 pm Post subject:

When trying raleys on a wakeskate, isnt anyone worried about where the wakeskate will end up? I mean, I want to try one but I don't want to do a bellyflop and land on my board.That's really my only concern... especially with the sharp grip tape. Other than that, it sounds like fun. I just want to keep the skin I have. LoL.

colefooter · Posted: Aug 08, 2004 4:38 pm Post subject:

Greg Smith, when i do it i have to swim like 50 yards to get the wakeskate back, dont forget the boat is still pulling you, and the wake will send the wakeskate out behind you, so theres not a whole lot to worry about.

Inverts on the other hand, the skate can end up with you, like wakeguy here tried to do a tantrum off of the crest of the wake (starting from inside going off crest of wake) and he landed on the board, funny to watch. He said it hurt his elbow Shocked

holdsworth · Posted: Aug 09, 2004 12:48 pm Post subject:

hahahah wakeguy, you aren't very smart when it comes to common sense Laughing

colefooter · Posted: Aug 09, 2004 4:10 pm Post subject:

whered that come from lol

wakeguy2008 · Addict Joined: 16 Jul 2003 Posts: 847 City: Ft. Myers

lol no Wake4Life08 im not...but its ok...i get by.

Greg Smith · Posted: Aug 10, 2004 5:23 pm Post subject:

Colefooter, yea that does make a lot of sense.. cool i cant wait to go try raleys. We are having a pole installed on our boat in a week or two, so i guess I'll have to wait till then.

wakeguy2008 · Addict Joined: 16 Jul 2003 Posts: 847 City: Ft. Myers

lol....as u can see Greg Smith, ur not alowed to sware in ur sig...i do like the bubb rubb though lol.

Greg Smith · Posted: Aug 12, 2004 3:23 pm Post subject: .

Hahah ya. I think they first changed it to Funk going home. Now they've changed it to Bubb Rubb going home. I was going to changed it but it sounds funny so... whatever. Lol.