Note to guy in Red Mastercraft from the guy in the Black SAN

Rogan Oliver · Newbie Joined: 13 Jan 2003 Posts: 20 City: Norris Lake

The other day we were heading back to the marina when we saw this beautiful red Mastercraft getting ready to pull a boarder or skiier. The area on Norris Lake was a little tight to pass at speed, so we pulled it down and slowly crept by to see that it wasn't a boarder or skiier, but a family pulling their kids on 2 tubes. We waved to our fellow boater and much to our surprise he said "he was ashamed to be seen pulling tubes behind his Mastercraft!" We replied, "It's family time and thats what it's all about". I pondered his response and told my wife that I can't get over the competiveness between the two boat companies represented(Mastercraft and Correct Craft). I'm not trying to pull a Rodney King, "Can't we all just get along?" but the time we have with our families is not going to come down to if they were on a tube or board, or pulled by a SAN or Mastercraft. It's all about the time spent together as a family.
P.S. Beautiful boat

Alter Ego · Posted: Jul 20, 2004 6:35 am Post subject:

AMEN brother

burt reynolds · Criminal Joined: 07 Jun 2004 Posts: 66 City: cashville

Aint nuthin wrong with a little tubing sometimes. You gotta have something easy and fun for the ladies you bring out who aren't into boarding. We take two out with us sometimes and it gets pretty fun. As long as you do it out in the chop before you go back in that glassy cove or river. We get it out of our systems and then weight up the boat and get down to bisniz.

orca · Newbie Joined: 07 Jul 2004 Posts: 34

I hear all of the tube bashing on this board and I dont get it, there is nothing funnier than hitting a dublup and tossin one of your friends 30 feet at high speed. LOL

noneya · Addict Joined: 13 Jan 2003 Posts: 796 City: Roxboro, NC

1 tuber can ruin a perfectly good area that 3-4 boarders/skiers can share. Its the driving in circles to make glass into chop that pisses me off. I always try and send a roller to em, its especially funny when they dont see it coming because the boat driver is looking back at his kid then BAM they go flying...

wang10s · Newbie Joined: 01 Jul 2004 Posts: 37 City: Heath Springs

I agree tubing is a great change from wakeboarding. When we take a break from boarding to tube we do it in the main water and not a cove. That way we dont mess with any skiers or boarders. If you tube tube bash dont until you ride one on a tower behind a full boat with all balasts filled. Tell me it doesnt give you the OHH S*** face! Shocked

ssrgeoff · Addict Joined: 13 Nov 2003 Posts: 582 City: So Cal

I agree. Tube in the main lake. We tube after a morning of glass. Soon as we hit chop in the afternoon we pull out the tube for my daughter and any of my friends that feel like taking flying lessons.

Duramax Dually · Posted: Jul 20, 2004 9:53 am Post subject:

I feel strongly that this sport is about family not about one persons plight to wakeboard on perfect water. I fully agree that when I am wakeboarding I hate it when the brutal chop starts but I think that happens with all lakes. We plan our day where we get out on the lake around 7am when traffic is light and we can wakeboard on glass like water, then after the mass's come out around 10:30am or so we knee board and tube. I do have to say I have recently been out on some of these "New" style tubes where you can somewhat steer them and flying off the wake is an awful lot of fun.

I personally have a larger problem with the people that bring out there big jet boats or those highend 40 ft race deals and go 60-70 MPH across the water with what appears to be without any regard to peoples safety. I wish those would be banned altogether or at least to certain parts of a lake.

kavlock99 · Posted: Jul 20, 2004 10:26 am Post subject:

I agree with you guys. Tubing is not a sin. Mind you it makes me cringe Confused

when i see the water choppy and know that the mirror water i'm waiting for is hours away. But it is a great time to let everyone get involved. As far as making the water choppy, yea it does. Its all about being considerate of others. I know we always stay out of coves and go to open areas to tube. Theres just always a few nuts in the bunch...i.e. tube drivers cutting up areas that are nice and should be left for skiiers or boarders, jet skiers coming dangerously too close to others, etc.

I for one save all my energies for boarding, but if its a crappy water day i'm not gonna be a whiney baby and not have some fun gettin tore up on a tube.

Rogan Oliver, attitudes like that guy you spotted are crappy, and thats what causes so much problems.

Come one ppl, just "grip it and rip it". Cool

But do it being considerate of others.

lcap · Ladies Man Joined: 13 Nov 2003 Posts: 10973 City: Homeless

If you want glass get up a little earlier, my daughter doesn't wake up until eight am.

studlystud08 · Criminal Joined: 01 Jun 2003 Posts: 87

ya...i love tubin when i need a break from boardin...cuz u cant board non stop all day..least i cant. and can u really tube with the ropes tied onto the tower? can you hook more than one up to there?

MrBlean · Posted: Jul 21, 2004 2:56 am Post subject:

dirtysparks · Wakeboarder.Commie Joined: 07 Jul 2004 Posts: 2428

I was out last weekend, got pretty choppy so we pulled out the tube. We just stay out in the middle of the lake. There was one dumb a** that had his kids out floating in their life jackets while he powered around them in circles to make waves for them. We stayed away from that guy the rest of the day. Hope his kids made it out alive...

SupremeWake · Soul Rider Joined: 14 Feb 2003 Posts: 322

Ok...not to stir the pot too much here, since it seems that most of the posters here like to tube once in awhile...but come on. Pulling a tube that you can't control and doing circles in an attempt to eject your rider???

I fully understand that we often need something besides 'boardin in the middle of the day when its already choppy.... how about wake surfin'?? Thats what we do. If we can't wait until evening glass to get back on the water, we wake surf.... its a ton of fun and doesn't need smooth water...and it even requires a little bit of skill. How about that.

To me, tubing is a great way to get young kids out on the water in an effort to ease their fears and get them comforable with themselves outside of the boat. I don't have a problem with this at all..... whatever gets the kids out on the water, having fun and learning a respect for the water is great! But come on....adults getting flung around like rag dolls on tubes during a high-traffic afternoon on the lake? Hmm? Smile

-d

lcap · Ladies Man Joined: 13 Nov 2003 Posts: 10973 City: Homeless

When I ski the course, I piss off the boarders. When I switch to boarding, I piss off the skiers. When I pull out the Air Chair I piss off the fishermen. When I disk on my home lake with an 8 mph speed limit after 7:00 PM, I piss off the neighbors. I pull out the tube for my 4 year old, I piss off everyone.

How about the kneeboard for the 4 to 10 year old crowd? Who am I going to piss off then?

SupremeWake · Soul Rider Joined: 14 Feb 2003 Posts: 322

.....I don't think that skiers piss off any of the boarders here.... Many of us were or still are slalom'ers to some extent. Skiers who are out there working on their technique and trying to improve their skill certainly do not piss me off and I try to stay off of their glass early in the morning if I can. Neither do disk-ers or air chair riders or knee boarders.... its the tubers who are out of control and their drivers who are often just as out of control, driving in circles. Smile

No harm intended.... just my opinion of skill-less tubers. Of course, there are certain situations where tubing would be ok with me if done safely and NOT at 50mph in circles....1. kids 2. the wife who just wants to lay out there on the tube while cruising. 3. someone with a physical limitation preventing him/her from doing anything else behind the boat. My problem is not with the 4 year olds who ride tubes or the parents who pull them. My problem is with the adults who ride tubes and the drunken idiots whose primary objective is to create so much chop in a small area that they are able to launch their out-of-control rider off the tube and skip them across the surface, possibly into the path of another boat.... Smile

Oh well....

-daniel

lcap · Ladies Man Joined: 13 Nov 2003 Posts: 10973 City: Homeless

Supreme

I understand your point and took no offense. I can't wait until my 4 year old will try her board again and I can take an ice pick to that !*@ tube! Her big brother has her standing up and dancing in the tube while underway.....someday hopefully very soon its ice pick time. Very Happy

As far as the skier/boarder thing, where I ski/ride we have an all out feud going on. Its the Hatfields and McCoys

Mike.H · Posted: Jul 21, 2004 9:03 pm Post subject:

we just got a 3 man tube, omg i cant wait to use it should be fun me and my sisters riding in that thing, ill c if i can get it on video and post it here.....ill try and flip the tube Twisted Evil

hehehe

SupremeWake · Soul Rider Joined: 14 Feb 2003 Posts: 322

Icap....the ice pick idea is pretty good...I wasn't suggesting that you go that far though! Smile

I'm sure that tube can be good for something else.... ok, maybe not. Anyway, I have a 1 & 2 yr old little girls...that I'm aching to get onto boards...but I'm sure they'll be in tubes first too.

Vivalamike.... nice website man... thats really cool. Did you design/create that yourself? I thought it was Flash at first, but its not... did you code that in html yourself? However, I notice that your wakeboard photos are all of you sitting in the water or just riding behind the boat....maybe you should spend less time on that 3 man tube and more time on your board! If you want to see some real photos, check my website out: http://home.insightbb.com/~photographs/wakeboarding/index.htm
....just kidding man.... keep ridin'.

-daniel

burt reynolds · Criminal Joined: 07 Jun 2004 Posts: 66 City: cashville

I am 22 years old with no physical handicap and I think it can be fun to be pulled on a tube. That means Supreme Wake has a problem with me. Whatever shall I do? I hope I don't have to quit wakeboarding.

bmartin · Addict Joined: 05 Feb 2003 Posts: 794

I own 3 or 4 tubes and think they can be a blast, especially when you are pulling them all at once. To me tubing is kind of like amusement parks....thrills with no skills required.

What wakeboarder doesnt get annoyed when they see tubes in a relatively calm cove. Now I kind of get it when you have a young kid (3-6 y.o.) and you do not want them out in the middle of the big water with all the other boats, but come on everyone else. I guess unless people ski or wakeboard, they just can't appreciate calm water and I try to give people the benefit of the doubt an assume they are just ignorant, but I suppose some of them are just inconsiderate.

churchy · Posted: Jul 22, 2004 10:29 am Post subject:

Rogan Oliver, It probably had nothing to do with boat brand competitiveness, but more to do w/ pulling tubes behind a wakeboarding boat.

jon4pres · Addict Joined: 09 Jul 2004 Posts: 589 City: Fort Scott

I hate choppy water just as much as everyone else but I figure that I will just have to deal with everyone else trying to have fun like me. If tubing is what they like to do then let them tube as long as they are half way safe. I go to a small lake and there is no way to get away from tubers so you just deal with them or throw a tube in and join them. I figure if you have a problem you should just build your own lake and not let anyone else on it then the water would be great. Just have fun that is what we are all trying to do

DBudman · Posted: Jul 22, 2004 11:27 am Post subject:

Sheeeit. Last year when I first bought the cottage, my dad gave me a blow up Zodiac dingy he had for his 58' sport fish. I tooled around in that thing with my kids...... all kinds of fun! Here I am with that as Mastercraft and Malibus and what ever flew by me all decked out with towers, guys doing flips, etc. Felt a little out of place....but was fun.

But by end of summer however.........i was able to purchase my new Mastercraft. Doesn't matter what ya have..........like you said. Just have fun! eh? I do prefer my ski boat over the dingy though Very Happy

Brad.

DBudman · Posted: Jul 22, 2004 11:33 am Post subject:

.......that might be it........what bmartin said. A guy pulling a tuber and kinda felt bad for disturbing the calmness when the tuber can go in any condition and it's optimal for boarders and skiers to have calm. who knows though eh?

SupremeWake · Soul Rider Joined: 14 Feb 2003 Posts: 322

Lol... this is funny... Burt.... I don't have a problem with you, but if you are that guy out there at 8am on a tube behind that new X-Star on my lake...then yeah, I might have a problem with you! Smile

I don't think I ever said anything about quitting wakeboarding though did I? Where did you get that from?

All I can say is.... I dont get it.... I just don't understand the thrill of tubing...or amusement parks for that matter.... but if it gets you off, then great...just try to show a little respect and consideration..

----d

deepcove · Soul Rider Joined: 15 Mar 2004 Posts: 296 City: Vancouver

supremewake

The water does not belong to you or wakeborders ( except for Radar lake I suppose that belongs to wakeboarders!) If as guy wants to pull a tube behind his boat all day long...well that is his right. I go boarding with my buds at 6:00 am so I don't have to deal with chop, at 10:00 am I am pulling my kids in a tube....making the chop,deal with it!

I know water skier's who don't see the thrill in wakeboarding yet we are out there sending rollers their way, does that mean skier's should be whining about wakeboarders the way you are whining about tubers???

Lighten up man.

Cheers

882001 · Posted: Jul 22, 2004 6:11 pm Post subject:

colefooter · Posted: Jul 22, 2004 6:43 pm Post subject:

SupremeWake, i think viva la mikes website is one of those freewebs templates?

your website has some classic shots too Very Happy

aceyx · Addict Joined: 30 Mar 2004 Posts: 770 City: dirty

correct me if i'm wrong, but SupremeWake, your main beef with these tubers is when they're unsafe. i totally agree with that. enjoy your sport, just don't put us at risk.

however, it comes off as "i don't get it, therefore nobody else should do it." not really the best argument, and i hope not your intention.

and as far as age is concerned, some people are just getting on the water so it's pretty unfair to say that all adults should have to ski or wakeboard. maybe they only hit the lake twice a year with friends or they've just gotten out of surgery.

with respect to wakeboard boats pulling tubes if that's all they're doing, i agree with you. but if that's just what you're seeing (on weekends, for example where they ride all week) then that's a pretty bunk argument. are you towing a boat every time you drive your SUV/truck or have the cargo space fully loaded? well then, you musn't be getting the best use of it and shouldn't be doing it.

if you just leave it as "don't hurt people," and "it's just not my cup of tea." i think everybody will agree with you.

Mike.H · Posted: Jul 22, 2004 8:55 pm Post subject:

SupremeWake, it is a regular freewebs website, ive only ridden behind a tube twice before, the last 3 times i went to the lake all i did was board...i just dont have very many pics of me boarding

Chad H · Posted: Jul 22, 2004 9:31 pm Post subject:

I think tubing is alot of fun after wakeboarding. Last time i was tubing(i tube behind a fishing boat) I was laughing really hard at this kid boaridng behind an XSTAR and didn't know hwta he was doing. And his dad never rode so i knew it was only him who boards. But i was backwards on the tube not looking at the boat thatt was pulling me and venting cause i was pissed about how horrible i did that day but it was fun