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Buergday Guest
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Posted: May 11, 2004 2:23 pm Post subject: Invert Sequence |
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So, I was bored at work today and decided to make a sequence photo of a local rider here in Sonoma County. He's doing a straight invert here, but he's got a whole bag of tricks up his sleeve. This was just the only complete set of photos that I had to work with. Whatcha think?

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Posted: May 11, 2004 2:42 pm Post subject: |
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that is actually really good. I really need to buff up my photoshop skills.
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vance Guest
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Posted: May 11, 2004 2:44 pm Post subject: |
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| awesome. How long did that take?
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intotheflats PityDaFool Who Posts This Much


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Posted: May 11, 2004 2:46 pm Post subject: |
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That is really cool.
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Posted: May 11, 2004 2:48 pm Post subject: |
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Really nice. Thanks for sharing your handy work. What kind of Camera did you use? Is it digital or are the pics scanned?
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WakeOn Outlaw

Joined: 11 Feb 2003 Posts: 109 City: Lake Sonoma Nor*Cal
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Posted: May 11, 2004 2:49 pm Post subject: |
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SWEET!!! That looks great!
Email me, I want to put it on the site. Got any more?
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BillJ Wakeboarder.Commie

Joined: 15 Jan 2003 Posts: 1568 City: San Diego
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Posted: May 11, 2004 2:52 pm Post subject: |
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In addition to what camera did you use, how many frames per second were you shooting?
Nice job on the sequence....
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Buergday Guest
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Posted: May 11, 2004 2:56 pm Post subject: |
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WakeOn: I already emailed it to you - check your aol inbox. I don't have any more because the cd rom you sent doesn't have any more complete photo sets. I'd be happy to make more though.
Vance: Thanks - took about 30 minutes
jojo: Thanks, but I didn't take the pix. I just created the sequence and added the graphical elements.
I just noticed something - I put Lake Sonoma on the photo, but it actually looks like they were riding at Berryessa that day. Whoops.
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actiondcpd Wakeboarder.Commie


Joined: 14 Feb 2003 Posts: 1088 City: San Diego
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Posted: May 11, 2004 3:11 pm Post subject: |
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| Buergday, That is awesome. Nice work.
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goodricht Outlaw

Joined: 05 Sep 2003 Posts: 179 City: Nor Cal - San Carlos
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Posted: May 11, 2004 4:51 pm Post subject: |
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| Damn nice stuff! I like the surrounding design as well!
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RUSSIAN Wakeboarder.com Freak


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Posted: May 11, 2004 5:04 pm Post subject: |
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I don't think thats berryessa, I don't think there are any houses like that on the water. that still a great sequence though
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Posted: May 11, 2004 5:21 pm Post subject: |
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Very nice, it makes me want to get into photoshop stuff
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Posted: May 11, 2004 6:19 pm Post subject: |
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thats way good. and it only took you 30 minutes, damn.
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Posted: May 11, 2004 7:29 pm Post subject: |
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Thats pretty sweet is that digital????
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Posted: May 11, 2004 7:32 pm Post subject: |
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| dang thats really nice, high quality looks like it should be in a mag or sumthin
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Posted: May 12, 2004 5:48 am Post subject: |
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Dave - very nice work my brotha - That was taken on Clear Lake CA. Can you post the shots of Cory on his skate.
Thanks Again Dave,
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Posted: May 12, 2004 6:10 am Post subject: |
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| Buergday, You did that in 30 minutes? What kind of masking technique did you use in PS? I'm curious cause that's really fast for all that cutout work. Nice job.
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Josh R Wakeboarder.com Freak


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Joined: 19 Jan 2003 Posts: 949 City: Edmonton
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Posted: May 12, 2004 6:40 am Post subject: |
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This may be a stupid question but I'll ask anyway. When you do these sequences are they from a camera (digital) or from a vid cam and take the photo's out of frames on the video ?
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Posted: May 12, 2004 6:55 am Post subject: |
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| Buergday, legit all the way!
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WakeOn Outlaw

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Posted: May 12, 2004 7:31 am Post subject: |
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It's on the site, thanks Dave.
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Dutch Addict


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Posted: May 12, 2004 8:22 am Post subject: |
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Josh R, ok, then I'll ask you too. What masking technique did you use to do it so quickly? Magic wand? air brush with a mask? whatcha useing?
I'm decently proficient with Photoshop, so I know I could do these if I try one, I'm just wondering what technique you guys are using. I'd probably create a mask and then paint out around each clip of the guy, then cut and paste them into the first or last image.
Josh, nice work on yours too.
I love sequentials.
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Joined: 20 Feb 2004 Posts: 579 City: Palo Alto
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Posted: May 12, 2004 8:42 am Post subject: |
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thast first pic was definately clear lakle, looks like it was taken near my place actually those sequences are awesoem though, wish i had the ability do do stuff like that
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salmon_tacos Wakeboarder.Commie

Joined: 14 Jan 2003 Posts: 2498 City: Austin
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Posted: May 12, 2004 8:49 am Post subject: |
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Dutch,
I've done a couple of really quick sequences (I haven't captured anything worthy of really high-quality work) and here's how I did it:
1. Take the first image in the sequence and then paste each successive image on top of it. So you have a series of layers with the top one being the last frame.
2. Make the canvas size bigger for the next step.
3.. Go through all the layers, starting with the first one, making them about 50% transparent, then move them around so the backgrounds line up. This is really easy...just like focusing a camera. After you line up the background, make the layer 100% opaque again.
4. Go through each layer and quickly make a "loose" selection (a couple or few pixels outside) around the rider or rope. Invert the selection. Feather it by a few pixels. Make sure to deselect any area of the layer you need for background (areas outside the previous layer or areas where you want spray or the trail of the wakeboard through the water to show). Edit -> Clear.
5. Since you lined up the backgrounds already, it will look pretty good. Go through and touch up anything that looks funny using the paintbrush in clear mode.
Edit: Oh, I forgot to mention on step 3: you MAY have to rotate the layer a bit to line it up if the camera was rotated during the sequence. This is a little harder but I'm sure you can figure it out using various references within the background. You can also obviously move the layer transparency back and forth to show you what you want. Also, after making the layer 100% opaque, I like to toggle it from visible to invisible a few times to check the alignment and see if the background "moves" when I do it. If it looks like it moves to when you make the layer visible, nudge the layer in the opposite direction and try again.
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Posted: May 12, 2004 9:06 am Post subject: |
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Salmon Tacos:
I couldn't have described the process better myself. Personally, I like to use the eraser tool (with a feathered brush) to blend the images together. The, I use the eraser tool with a solid brush for the detail where the images overlap. Most of the blending is done freehand, rather than using a mass-seletion tool, like the magic wand. The magic wand tool is cool, but not for removing backgrounds from behind detailed subjects.
LSR:
I'll work on that one today, and post it up in a little while.
Josh R:
Nice work man! Your stuff is always impressive.
WakeTech:
Those were from a 35mm camera - not mine though, so I'm not sure exactly what equipment he was using. You can also do them from a video, but the quality suffers (usually not high enough resolution). Here's one that I did of me a long time ago from a 8mm camcorder. You can see the obvious difference in quality. Also, it was my first sequence attempt, so I didn't have the technique down yet.

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salmon_tacos Wakeboarder.Commie

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Posted: May 12, 2004 9:22 am Post subject: |
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Buergday,
Does the eraser tool do something for you that the paintbrush doesn't or is it just a different way of doing the exact same thing?
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Posted: May 12, 2004 10:00 am Post subject: |
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| Well, I use the eraser tool to blend the layers together, rather than cutting out sections with the magic wand or the lasso. Just like you said in your description - I line up the backgrounds of all the layers, but then I use the eraser tool at various opacities to blend the layers. Once they are seamless, I merge them and make any small detail adjustments. Does that answer your question?
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Posted: May 12, 2004 10:02 am Post subject: |
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Buergday,
That's still a pretty good sequence, thanks for the info
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salmon_tacos Wakeboarder.Commie

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Posted: May 12, 2004 10:54 am Post subject: |
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Buergday,
No.
I was wondering about the difference between the eraser tool and the paintbrush tool in "clear" mode. Both erase portions of the active layer.
Regarding the use of the lasso: I just like to cut out the majority of the background with a feathered mask just to save time. The results are usually no worse than with painstaking erasing on water, trees, and sky. I go in and touch up the all the areas that matter anyway, i.e. around the rider and rope (especially when he overlaps with himself on a fast 7fps frame rate).
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Buergday Guest
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Posted: May 12, 2004 11:25 am Post subject: |
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Oh - I see. I'm not sure about the difference. I just always use the eraser tool.
Here's another one that I just did this morning, per LSR's request.

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Buergday Guest
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Posted: May 12, 2004 11:28 am Post subject: |
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| The center photo was out of focus and overexposed, so even after a bunch of color/brightness/contrast and hue adjustment, it still doesn't match the rest of the frames. Oh well.
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salmon_tacos Wakeboarder.Commie

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Posted: May 12, 2004 12:50 pm Post subject: |
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Boater: "Officer, he went that way and he was riding a yellow wakeskate!"
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Officer: "Hey, you on the orange wakeskate! Did you see somebody on a yellow wakeskate?"
LSR: "No, officer. Heeheehee..."
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Posted: May 12, 2004 12:55 pm Post subject: |
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Damn that looks GOOD!
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Buergday Guest
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Posted: May 12, 2004 1:14 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks WakeOn!
Hey, I'm confused - Mike, which one are you - LSR or WakeOn? And who is the other one?
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