Big Air Backrolls & Butt Landing Backrolls

bradleymau · Newbie Joined: 05 Sep 2003 Posts: 7

How do you get bigger air on backrolls? How do you keep from landing on your butt? I landed my first backroll this weekend but next time want to get them bigger and land a higher percentage of them. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks, Mauser

DavidHoff · Posted: Jun 13, 2004 12:31 pm Post subject:

Pop harder but not out of proportion.

Jim M · Wakeboarder.com Freak Joined: 17 Jan 2003 Posts: 2933

The biggest thing that will help with both taking it bigger and not buttchecking is increasing your line tension-- really turn on your edge when you get to the trough of the wake. Squeeze tight, dig your heels in, and think 'up'.

Dont let the handle get away from your hips unless you are over-rotating- if thats the case then try letting it out a little on the way down.

colefooter · Posted: Jun 14, 2004 5:25 am Post subject:

I think you should just keep taking them little, if you landed it you should just work on that more than trying to go bigger.

Bruky · Guest

I am actually agreeing with colefooter on this one. I learned them not even clearing the wake, and my technique turned out fine. Make sure you are edging as hard as you can, charging the wake. Pull the rope into your hips as hard as you can and turn your head so you are looking at where you want to go, not at the water. Your mind will want to take you to where it can see. When you are looking at any given location throughout your flip, you are going to lose your center balance and land on your a$$. A good way to think of it is that your head stays in the same place while your body rotates around your head. This isn't actully going to happen in reality, but it's one of those mental things that really help you out. Flipping is something you just need to work out on your own, but just keep looking at where you want to go, and that is where you will land. Sorry if that is all confusing, but it really is a hard thing to explain. Laughing

Good luck and save your ass for the more brutal slams...they get worse and you are going to need a nice landing pad for when you eff up Razz

alafiaboarder · Posted: Jun 27, 2004 4:49 pm Post subject:

my theory= haul @$$ into the wake and just throw it normally and it will pull really hard but u shall fly, it works for me and good luck with your attempts Twisted Evil

simland · Posted: Jun 27, 2004 6:43 pm Post subject:

Wait till you get all the pop you can off the wake and take a nice big cut at it. Once you feel your pop and get lauched then start your rotation. Maybe even try to do it layed out. I don't know if that can be done, because I am still working on landing one... Wink

tjrlake123 · Criminal Joined: 09 Sep 2003 Posts: 73 City: Kokomo/Indy

cut hard, throw soft, and let the wake do the work trust me Very Happy

it will float around and landing in the flats will feel gooooooooood...........

Lantzvillian · Posted: Jun 28, 2004 8:23 pm Post subject:

I think the previous ways work.. But have you tried them on the tramp.. the side flip motion feels the exact same.. minus the cut and poping. IF you can do it that way then do it.. But for me I did about 20 miles an hr and tried them inside out.. I almost landed them then, so I took it w2w and landed one my second try. They were actualy like orbital 3s but it worked for me and I fixed them soon after liek the next tiem out riding.. so maybe try that.

Motive · Newbie Joined: 28 Jun 2004 Posts: 18

on back rolls don't yu catch your nose and face plant? when ur coming down doesn't your nose catch if you don't rotate enough and send you face first in the lake?

snowandwake · Newbie Joined: 19 Mar 2004 Posts: 25 City: Knoxville

Motive,

Thats what I am kind of worried about. I want to try one but all I can do now is like a unconsistent wake to wake. I want to start landing 180's but when I ride fakie, everything is off. Any tips for riding fakie other then releasing your back hand?

Lantzvillian · Posted: Jul 18, 2004 7:38 pm Post subject:

get up switch and only ride swtich for a few days

simland · Posted: Jul 18, 2004 8:19 pm Post subject:

Yea time on the water, it's hard and unnatural but just do it. Also how does one throw an inside out backroll.

HatzicMotive140 · Soul Rider Joined: 18 Jul 2004 Posts: 261 City: abbotsford

i jsut change my name from motive so same guy here:) well i find if you pop 180's then it is easier to get used to going switch just go out into the flats and ollie then huck a 180 after you get used to that start from inside the wake and do a 180 out then try onme off the wake inside but not w2w after u are comfy there do the w2w 180 then after that throw in a grab.

Back roll- I need some more hieght but my wake is pretty small so i rotate too fast and i land with my knees bent i can get around but its too fast of a rotation so i land then my board flip out from underme to the side.

Rocket · Outlaw Joined: 11 Jun 2004 Posts: 127

simland, I think Lantzvillian, means from inside the wake to outside the wake. (I don't think he has a trick called the "inside out backroll" that none of us have heard of) If you can almost land a backroll this way you are probably going to be able to do it fine wake to wake. It sounds like quite good advice to me, it will force you to learn your rotation properly as you won't be getting the height you get off a normal wake jump.

I am still learning to do backrolls, I started learning a while ago but I injured myself when I got nearly all the way round and the nose of the board went into the water first and one binding came off and ***ked my leg! I have now gone back to just trying to get more height on my wake jumps as my rotation was fine I just wasn't getting the height. I am now getting masses of height and am ready to try them again! Will be trying this weekend, will let you all know the progress!

Phil · Addict Joined: 14 Jan 2003 Posts: 636 City: Chattanooga

Yeah i`ve found that on backrolls that if you just cut really hard and pop hard you go really big on them

Tyler~Moore · Posted: Jul 23, 2004 6:42 am Post subject:

backrolls are all about line tension, so keep the line tension as long as possible, never let up on the edge, which will increase speed and line tension, over all causing a bigger backroll...