Need help on my surface 180s

Trancewave · Newbie Joined: 26 May 2004 Posts: 4

I can ride switch and do a 180 in the air, but I cannot do the surface 180 if my life depended on it >_<. I'm trying to do the thing where you go switch without even jumping in the air. I would put this under Trick Tips, but it seems much too basic to be there. But anyway, everytime I begin to turn the board, I immediatly faceplant. I tried different tactics on shifting my weight, but I don't really know specifically what I am supposed to be doing. Can anyone give me a basic rundown on how you do it and some helpful tips?

Massive Matt · Posted: Jun 07, 2004 7:04 pm Post subject:

the reason you're doing a face plant is becasue your putting to much weight on the front of your board and the water catches the edge. What you need to do is keep your weight to the back of the board.

Alan C · Soul Rider Joined: 26 Jan 2004 Posts: 329 City: Calgary

but not too much on the back o you could slip out and get a lot of water up your but

dairyman · Newbie Joined: 08 Jun 2004 Posts: 9

keep the handle in close and use it just as you would for a wake to wake 180, move it from your front hip to your back and that should pull your back foot around, remember to keep your weight on your back edge but not too much cause you don't want to slip out. a good practicing method is to have the boat pull you at about 10 mph and practice surface 180's at that speed. also i don't know about you but i would much rather slip out and land on my ass than faceplant so until you kind of get the hang of the weight thing don't be afraid to put a ton of your weight on the back edge. hope i was of some help and good luck.

r00se · Newbie Joined: 08 Dec 2003 Posts: 13 City: La Crosse

ALSO.... hold the handle close to you.. then drop your LEAD hand and lean on your heels a little... the boat will pull you around... also.. depending on the length of fins and their set up.. it could be easy or more difficult to do surface manuevers... it always helps to carve out then do your surface trick as you are slowed down as much as possible.. then ride it out normally..

ENJOY

MinnDizzyG · Posted: Jun 09, 2004 6:55 am Post subject:

Some good advice on here. Surface 180s are in some ways harder than 180s in the air. Even once you get the hang of them, sometimes if you're not concentrating you'll biff one bad.

I tend to think about several points when doing them (some of these will reiterate what others have said, but I thought it might be helpful to consolidate for you)
* Keep your toes up (or heels if your doing a surface 180 BS)
* Look for times and/or places where the board gets slippery on its own - e.g. when you're just starting, when you're directly behind the boat in the wash, when you're way outside and transitioning from cutting out to cutting in
* Keep your toes up
* Initiate the spin by bringing the handle and your back hip together - notice I said bring them together, not pull one to the other. I think that's a subtle but important point.
* Keep your toes up
* I believe keeping your knees bent a little helps, but that could be just me.
* Keep your toes up. Very Happy

Watch some videos - most of the posters on this board who post vids have surface 180s in there from time to time. Watch how they do it - some you will barely notice, they do it so fast and smooth. Others, you'll see them lean WAY back on their heels and pull the 180. Doesn't matter which you do - it's all style as long as you actually pull it off.

*DISCLAIMER* I'm not a coach. I'm not a pro. I'm not even a very good rider. Very Happy

Try this stuff, but don't take it for wakeboard gospel.

Good luck!

hyperrider · Addict Joined: 06 Aug 2003 Posts: 613 City: Edmonton

all the other suggestions have been good ones. the only other thing i can think of is to get smaller fins. It could be because your board is too grippy on the water. i have a parks and it was super grippy until i changed the fins from 1.3's to .7's. its so much looser now and i can do so many more surface tricks. just a thought.

Wakebrad · Ladies Man Joined: 11 Dec 2003 Posts: 12257 City: Dallas

you could learn at slower speeds, you have less of a tendency to faceplant a lower speeds so once you've done it a couple times you can try it at speed. But yah if you're face planting put more weight on your heels. Falling back isn't near as painful as falling forward

MinnDizzyG · Posted: Jun 10, 2004 5:05 am Post subject:

WakeBoardingManiac · Addict Joined: 12 Jan 2003 Posts: 914 City: Montréal

voodoo1 · Criminal Joined: 04 Jan 2004 Posts: 72 City: Charlotte

What about peforming the butterslide on the wake ridge? Is it different then just doing it out in the flats?

WakeBoardingManiac · Addict Joined: 12 Jan 2003 Posts: 914 City: Montréal