Darkside

Dave W · Posted: Jan 14, 2003 2:53 pm Post subject: Darkside

I have never hit any obstacles on a wakeboard much less a wakeskate, but I was just wondering if anyone has successfully completed or even attempted a darkside grind. Since a lot of wakeskaters seem to have the kickflip mastered it seems like it should be possible doesn't it? The concave on a 3D cassette should help avoid too much friction with your traction pad too. Anyone ever heard of this being done?

Ryan_m · Addict Joined: 12 Jan 2003 Posts: 653 City: glen ellyn

i have never heard of anyone trying one, but im sure its possible and will just be a matter of time till one is sucesfully landed.

Jester · Posted: Jan 14, 2003 3:36 pm Post subject:

Good luck trying. It's one thing to ATM yourself when you try a trick like that on your skateboard. Getting ATM'ed at 15 mph is something completely different. Crazy Eyes

Have fun with that.

x2xwakegurlx2x · Guest

that would be cool if its done, if you attempt it be sure to film it

RUSSIAN · Posted: Jan 14, 2003 4:23 pm Post subject:

just for the record ot's darkslide Very Happy

STPHNSN23 · Guest

if i get up big enough balls i'll try it, but i'll probly lose those big balls in the process.

Ryan_m · Addict Joined: 12 Jan 2003 Posts: 653 City: glen ellyn

andrew... you can try it on the floating flag pole over near the acadamy..... i plan on sliding that thing this summer.

fs04laoaksfny · Posted: Jan 14, 2003 7:26 pm Post subject:

i wanna see that done...or a hard flip or 360flip some inovator will pull it

Jester · Posted: Jan 15, 2003 7:00 am Post subject:

Dave W · Posted: Jan 15, 2003 7:26 am Post subject:

OK, is it really darkslide or darkside. I'm not as good with the skateboarding terminology but I just assumed it was darkside because then you have a way to describe the slide with without repeating slide. Example: Darkside Lipslide... or am I just totally confused? Do you not really need to get much more specific when you are describing the trick because there are no longer any distininguishing features on the board when it is upside down? Sombody please enlighten me. I feel like I'm in the dark here. (pun intended)

Jester · Posted: Jan 15, 2003 1:24 pm Post subject:

The actual name of the trick is the darkslide 'cuz it can only be done as either a board or lipslide. In the Tony Hawk games I think you can do a dark tailslide but it's made up.

Now if you were to describe the type of trick it is, then it'd be called darkside. Other darkside tricks include caspers & freestyle 50/50's.

Dave W · Posted: Jan 15, 2003 2:12 pm Post subject:

Thanks jester. I think that helps a bit.

RUSSIAN · Posted: Jan 15, 2003 2:49 pm Post subject:

"Now if you were to describe the type of trick it is, then it'd be called darkside. Other darkside tricks include caspers & freestyle 50/50's"

I'm not to sure about that, I have never of a darkside in skateboarding(unless your refering to the current state of skateboarding, than you could call it the dark side of skateboarding) but I could be wrong. I've only heard of darkslides.

koltman · Addict Joined: 15 Jan 2003 Posts: 902 City: Sydney/Orlando

I think it would be so cool if someone would do a casper on one of those floating low-lying docks.

Jester · Posted: Jan 15, 2003 3:37 pm Post subject:

RUSSIAN · Posted: Jan 15, 2003 4:00 pm Post subject:

Jester, I understood what you were saying, I've just never heard the term "darkside tricks" used in skateboarding. it's all good

Jester · Posted: Jan 15, 2003 9:30 pm Post subject:

Darkside is a rarely used term. I've only heard it in freestyle circles 'cuz they do tricks that involve the board being flipped over. In contemporary street & vert skating there are hardly any moves like that.

fs04laoaksfny · Posted: Jan 16, 2003 6:22 am Post subject:

who do you think will be the first to throw one?dan lov?

pooser · Wakeboarder.com Freak Joined: 13 Jan 2003 Posts: 4738

there was and old post about darkslide a while back and ive been thinking about it sine then. first of all a half of a kicflip 180 on and then off a rail is a tad bit difficult. dont think that wille be done. andyou cant evven try it until you can find some thing tht griptape ad foam will slide accros.

Dave W · Posted: Feb 02, 2003 12:48 pm Post subject:

viking-- I've never seen a concave wakeskate up close and in person, but don't they carry a bit of concave through the middle? If they do, it seems like they'd slide just fine on PVC while upside down. The concave would keep the grip tape or foam from making very much contact wouldn't it? Seems to me that there wouldn't be any more problem from grip tape friction on a wakeskate darkslide than there is on a skateboard darkslide. I'm not saying it would be easy, but then again I'd never say that a varial kickflip on a wakeskate is easy either. I just wondered if anyone was trying it or if it had been done because I think they're cool looking tricks on a skateboard.

Paul C. · Posted: Feb 05, 2003 9:39 am Post subject: Darkside

I have always wanted to see that done on a wakeskate. If you think about it though that trick was created way after kickflips and shuvits and stuff.....so it will probably be a while since even in skateboarding it is probably considered a farely new trick.......i don't really know i'm no skateboarder. But yeah, that would be freakin amazing. Shocked

electricsnow · Posted: Feb 05, 2003 6:45 pm Post subject:

can you guys imagine how slippery the bottom of the deck (non griped side) would be if someone actually tried a darkslide? I would definitely expect some major poo eating to commence....that is one obstacle that will need to be addressed before this goes down...not to mention the half kickflip and the speed issue.

David Legler · Posted: Feb 05, 2003 7:31 pm Post subject:

i think that the hardest part of it would be the half kickflip out of it

pooser · Wakeboarder.com Freak Joined: 13 Jan 2003 Posts: 4738

youd definitely need a custom skate for darkslides there is no way to do the with the skates we have today. hopefully by the time someone can stick a consistent on and off a slider skates will be advanced enough to do darkslides.( maybe they will be able to do the slide for you lol j/k) thinking about it it will be at least two years before someone can stick a consistent ollie 180 kickflip on and off sliders so i think everyone should forget until the time becomes closer.

SKATEwakeBOARDER · Criminal Joined: 06 Feb 2003 Posts: 96 City: Jackson GA

It may take some time if it is ever done. But noone should ever say anything is impossible in sports like these. At one point im sure even kickflips were thought to be impossible.

SKATEwakeBOARDER · Criminal Joined: 06 Feb 2003 Posts: 96 City: Jackson GA

In skateboarding i mean

Jester · Posted: Feb 11, 2003 11:27 am Post subject:

I don't think anyone's saying darkslides are impossible. It's just a matter of when they'll go down. It IS pretty early in wakeskating history to be thinking about an advanced move like that.

One of the things that is to your advantage though is that the move has already been invented. That ALWAYS shortens the time to progress. Back in the 80's Rodney was having to create these tricks like kickflips, heelflips, & impossibles so it took a little longer for new stuff to happen. Wakeskating is only a few years old & already people are hitting varial kickflips. Darkslides won't be too far off.

David Legler · Posted: Feb 11, 2003 4:54 pm Post subject:

i agree with jester, and i think it helps to have a wider board.

slaydit · Posted: Feb 15, 2003 10:46 pm Post subject:

better yet....a darkslide....on the water.... o0o0o0o0o0o0o0o

-jey

pooser · Wakeboarder.com Freak Joined: 13 Jan 2003 Posts: 4738

i was thinking the same thing doing sn ollie half kiskflip to darkbutterslide. the only thing i havent figured out is how to half kickflip out but i think a darkbutterslide would lookk sick.

kyle · Guest

a darkslide wont happen, because the grip tape will ruin pvc to easily

David Legler · Posted: Feb 17, 2003 7:08 pm Post subject:

not all sliders are pvc, and i don't think that grip tape would hurt it that much.

Jester · Posted: Feb 18, 2003 8:13 am Post subject:

The griptape will scuff the PVC, that's about it. Be careful when you say that a trick won't happen, a lotta times that's when they do. How do you think the impossible got it's name?

derrick lenz · Posted: Feb 18, 2003 8:45 am Post subject:

i think the darkslide will definatly happen. look at the way wakeskating has alreay progressed. a couple of years ago butterslides on the wake and wake to wake indy shuv-its were the sh*t. now kickflip are standard for the pros and they're doing stuff like bluntslides, wake to wake kickflips, and varial kickflips. less than two years and it'll be done.

Ryan W · Posted: Feb 18, 2003 12:57 pm Post subject:

I think it will happen.