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PostPosted: Feb 12, 2004 9:35 am    Post subject: Trailer draging Reply with quote

As you know the protective braces that are in place on inboard trailers, to protect the prop, are low. I was wondering if anyone has devised a way to overcome this problem. I have seen a few new trailers with thin rollers underneth. Has anyone developed a neat inexpensive way to fix this problem on older trailers? Any suggestions would be appreciated.
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PostPosted: Feb 12, 2004 9:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

weld a little weel underneeth
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PostPosted: Feb 12, 2004 11:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

yea, some sort of little wheel seems like it would be about the only answer without some major work on the trailer
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PostPosted: Feb 12, 2004 11:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

if you have a receiver hitch, get drawbar with 2-4 inches of drop, so the nose of the trailer sits lower. this will raise the tail end. Works like a see-saw.
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PostPosted: Feb 12, 2004 11:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://forums.wakeboarder.com/viewtopic.php?t=6534&highlight=prop+guard
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PostPosted: Feb 12, 2004 11:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you add a wheel to the prop guard, the wheel and the guard will be supporting a large portion of the boat and trailer weight when the prop guard high-centers. If the guard isn't strong enough, you could do some painful damage.

Runne's suggestion of using a drop down receiver hitch makes a lot of sense.

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PostPosted: Feb 12, 2004 11:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Feb 12, 2004 11:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i Think rune is blushing right now Wink he finally had a good idea Laughing Laughing


*sorry Ruune, I had to say it*

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PostPosted: Feb 12, 2004 11:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

haha thx.
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PostPosted: Feb 12, 2004 1:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ruune wrote:
if you have a receiver hitch, get drawbar with 2-4 inches of drop, so the nose of the trailer sits lower. this will raise the tail end. Works like a see-saw.


Yup, totally right although this will seriously impact towing. I ran with a 4" drop to clear my driveway for a while and was continually frustrated about how bad the trailer pushed my F150 around. Guess what -- that seesaw action happens when you're towing, too! Going back to a 2" drop levelled the trailer out like it's supposed to be and made a world of difference with towing. The tradeoff is I scrape on my driveway the majority of the time. Evil or Very Mad

One other possibility although it isn't EASY is if your cage isn't very close to the prop. If you have more than 1" of prop clearance you could have a shop trim/re-weld your cage up some. I'm thinking of doing either that or having rollers added to mine.
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PostPosted: Feb 12, 2004 2:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm running a 3/4 ton crew cab with quite a bit of quite a bit of weight. Also, I'm going to need a 4-6" of drop to level mine anyways. I've got a couple of 4-inchers right now, and I'm gonna stop by uhaul on the way home today and get a 6 or 8 inch drop. The reasoning is that I'm mainly concerned about going from the garage to the waterline, which right now is about 75 yards, but it is pretty rocky. So, that's not going to be as much of an issue. I'll be running less of a drop during highway use, just for ease of trailering though. Man... 5 weeks till delivery! Shocked
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PostPosted: Feb 12, 2004 3:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If the trailer is at the correct height, that guard shouldn't drag (unless you're talking some serious grade differences between the trailer and the tow vehicle). A drop for the hitch ball is definitely the way to go there...
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PostPosted: Feb 12, 2004 3:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

try an adjustable drop.
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PostPosted: Feb 13, 2004 5:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I took my trailer back to the manufacturer (DHM in Sacramento). They installed the wheels on the prop guard. There's a bit of difference in driveway approach with the prop-guard wheels. Before I used to enter & exit the driveway at the sharpest angle possible. With the prop guard wheels it seems best to enter/exit the driveway straight-on, so both wheels hit the driveway evenly.
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PostPosted: Feb 14, 2004 7:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You actually have a third option.

1) lower drop height
2) casters on prop guard
and
3) lift your trailer. I know it sound funny but, I've seen where somebody who had a trailer that was about 2" too low put 2" lift blocks under the leaf springs and got the trailer lifted. Wouldn't even notice unless you knew. Also adds a bit more tire to fender spacing.

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PostPosted: Feb 14, 2004 2:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have the same problem with my driveway and trailer. The draging seems to happen mainly when the trailer wheels drop off the curb at the bottom of the driveway. I went to home depot and bought a 2x10x8 piece of wood. Cut it into two 4 foot sections. When you pull out of the driveway wait till your trailer wheels come close to the curb then stop, put the two pieces of wood in front of the wheels (laying across the curb) and drive over. It seems like a lot to go through but it works and it's cheap. I usually just leave the two boards in the bed of my truck so that they are always there when I need them.
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PostPosted: Feb 15, 2004 10:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

standard ausie trailor



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PostPosted: Feb 15, 2004 11:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

wakejunky, I would think that this would increase the tension on the springs, and make the boat jump around a bit more. dont you think?
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PostPosted: Feb 16, 2004 9:34 am    Post subject: Increase spring tension? Reply with quote

Ruune - curious to know why you think mounting the trailer 2 inches higher from the springs using spacers on each side will change the spring tension? The trailer and boat still weigh the same, they're just mounted 2 inches higher. Hence the springs will undergo the same amount of compression

Sounds like a neat solution to me!

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PostPosted: Feb 16, 2004 9:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

it just seems that the blocks would bow out the leafspring more, causing more load to put on the spring, since the resistance of a leafspring increases with flex.
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PostPosted: Feb 16, 2004 10:06 am    Post subject: Clarification Reply with quote

Ruune wrote:
it just seems that the blocks would bow out the leafspring more, causing more load to put on the spring, since the resistance of a leafspring increases with flex.


Why would the springs bow out more if the weight causing their flex is the same in both cases (apart form the mass of two small metal blocks)?

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PostPosted: Feb 16, 2004 10:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

my bad... I was thinking that the block spaces the spring out as well.
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PostPosted: Feb 17, 2004 6:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jacking the trailer up. I had thought of that. My dad did the same thing to his camper. He rewelded the brackets and fliped the springs placing them on top of the axle. He got several inches of lift that way. The diffrence I see with the boat is loading and unloading the actual boat from the trailer. I don't know what that might do. I guess you would just haft to back a little deeper in the water. What do you guys think.
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PostPosted: Feb 17, 2004 7:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

here is the latest from boatmate trailers



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PostPosted: Feb 17, 2004 7:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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What do you guys think.


sounds good... especially since most of the time the tongue is too high, b/c its hooked up to a truck! The only drawback I can see is a possible clearance problem getting a collapsed tower in a garage w/ a 7' garage door.

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