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HS front roll help!!! its getting too painful

 
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PostPosted: Mar 23, 2004 6:29 am    Post subject: HS front roll help!!! its getting too painful Reply with quote

HS FRoll. on my first attempt i went pretty big, and some how over rotated the damn trick. and since then, i dont get the timing right to take off the wake, it seems i come off too early and always end up eating the incoming wake. no hieght what so ever. when i do get height, i lose all my spinning power and land 3/4 of the way (i.e on my left shoulde, being goofy). any constructive advice?? thanxs!

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PostPosted: Mar 23, 2004 8:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are you talking roll of flip? You mentioned landing on your shoulder so it sounds like a front flip (cartwheel style?). If so, check out the HS Front Flip thread on this page.
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PostPosted: Mar 23, 2004 9:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

the hs front(cartweel style)is a trick that can be taken Huge... u should try putting a lot more weight on your back foot, and wait for the wake to throw u up. if u do this right you should def feel the wakes power throw u up. also try and touch ur right ear to ur right shoulder to keep rotating.
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PostPosted: Mar 23, 2004 7:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

are you talking about a hs front flip or a hs backroll? There's no such thing as a heelside front roll.
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PostPosted: Mar 23, 2004 7:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

really??? then i guess i made up a new move! no seriously though, its not a front flip cause it goes end over end like the way a cartwheel looks not like a front flip on a trampoline.
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PostPosted: Mar 24, 2004 1:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="wkbrdmdw"]really??? then i guess i made up a new move! no seriously though, its not a front flip cause it goes end over end like the way a cartwheel looks not like a front flip on a trampoline.[/quote].....

a front flip on a wakebaord is end over end.....you didn't invent anything...sorry to burst you bubble... end over end=frontflip
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PostPosted: Mar 24, 2004 1:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ummm.. sorry for not explaining my self clearly.. its cartwheeel style, tail over nose. yeah, ive read the thread but wanted to know if there was any little tricks out there... WKBrdmdw, thanks for the advice, iŽll c if it gets any better. Very Happy Razz

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PostPosted: Mar 24, 2004 8:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

wkbrdmdw,

There was a whole thread about this a while back. Tip-over-tail, end-over-end, or whatever you want to call it, is a flip when going forward (front) and a roll when going backward (back). Then, a TS front roll is like a front flip on a tramp. I think it was said that you couldn't do a front roll from HS. Confusing? No doubt.

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PostPosted: Mar 24, 2004 9:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yea i obviously know i didnt invent anything.. i was just being a smart ass
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PostPosted: Mar 25, 2004 1:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

the best way i was tought to do this is aproach exactly like a back roll pop off the wake like you would a backroll but throw your lead ear to your lead shoulder
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PostPosted: Mar 25, 2004 12:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="poolezy"]the best way i was tought to do this is aproach exactly like a back roll pop off the wake like you would a backroll but throw your lead ear to your lead shoulder[/quote]


Why would you throw this anythign like a back roll. For a proper backroll you are edgeing up and away from the boat, off the wake. The edge coming into the wake is similar where you have a good strong progressive edge. If you pop of the wake properly the way you would for a backroll you will start to rotate over your tail, good luck throwing the front from that position. DO NOT POP OFF THE WAKE LIKE A BACKROLL...
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PostPosted: Mar 31, 2004 9:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

no kiddin wake criminal.. a friend of mine tried it on my advice from poolezy.. Embarassed it wasnt a pretty site (funny as hell though).. Poolezy thanks for the tip, but i doubt it will work for me.. turner, once again, your advices seem neat as always (im not getting my nose brown here guys, just showing my appreciation. Wink )


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