Impossible and 360 Flip questions

Fredrick Eisenhauer · Posted: Jan 11, 2004 5:44 am Post subject: Impossible and 360 Flip questions

I'm having a bit of trouble with the impossible and 360 flip. Here are my problems

Well with a 360 flip I cant figure out my foot placement. I either get it to flip a varial flip perfect or I do a 360 half flip. SO my question is where do you put your feet for a 360 flip?

ANd the impossible. I can get the flip, thats easy but I cant seem to stomp it. Can any one here impossible and give me any tips? Thanks in advance.

gvw686 · Addict Joined: 05 Sep 2003 Posts: 664 City: Columbus

ur fredrick?

ontrider · Ladies Man Joined: 30 Jul 2003 Posts: 16491 City: Russia

vip20882000, I don't know how much help this is... but I try 360 flips with the same foot placement as varial flips except I move my back foot a little more toward the toeside to get the shuvit rotation going a little faster and that seems to help the board flip a little better too. Hope that helps a bit. Confused

Fredrick Eisenhauer · Posted: Jan 12, 2004 7:27 am Post subject:

gvw686, yes. I thought you knew that when I got that dancing sloth thing going in my sig.

ontrider, thanks for the tips. I've gotten partially better at them and got close to landing one.

SkiSk8er1287 · Newbie Joined: 27 Oct 2003 Posts: 16

my front foot is a little less than midway up the board...my heel is hanging off the side...my back foot is at the very edge and closer to the heel side...both feet are slightly pointed to the bolts for a 360 flip...i don't know if you've heard this but a friend of mine recommended that rather than scoop like you would for a regular 360 shuv it you should SLIGHTLY drag your BACK foot up and off the heelside of your board... i know it sounds weird but i tried it and did it perfectly on my first shot, but haven't been able to do it consistently since...just somethin to experiment with i guess

Fredrick Eisenhauer · Posted: Jan 17, 2004 7:57 am Post subject:

SkiSk8er1287, so you actually have your foot right back? I should try it because im having no luck with the 360 flips. The impossibles I've given up and trying croos footed, landed a few to.

s-s213 · Outlaw Joined: 12 Sep 2003 Posts: 150 City: Nanaimo

Hmm I don't know quite how to explain it, but I'll give it a shot.

If you want more flip in your 360 flip, simply cover the board more (width-wise) with your toe. Then when you kick it'll flip more. If you want less flip, cover less of the board.

For more or less spin, it's simply a matter of how hard you kick your back foot behind you. It's all just a matter of practice.

If you've seen someone like Rodney Mullen or PJ Ladd (Or anyone else with incredible flatground board control), you'll notice that their 360 flips almost happen with no effort at all. You just see the slightest flick of their ankle. All because of practice.

As far as impossibles go, all I can tell you is don't waste your time with them. No one does impossibles, and you never see them done. Leave all the oldschool stuff to Mullen.

Jester · Posted: Feb 23, 2004 1:40 pm Post subject:

s-s213 · Outlaw Joined: 12 Sep 2003 Posts: 150 City: Nanaimo

Ok, a few people. A few pros actually. I don't really think it's the kind of trick you want to learn at a beginning level. Kind of a waste of time more than anything.

It's sort of in the same line of tricks as powerslides ect. If you can do them, that's good, but don't spend lots of time learning them.

Fredrick Eisenhauer · Posted: Feb 27, 2004 5:49 am Post subject:

And your assuming im a beginer? Don't just "assume" because you dont know me. I dont see why there such a waste of time they look good when done properly. ANd I wouldn't call an impossible "old-school".

numbfoot · Posted: Feb 27, 2004 8:21 pm Post subject:

I'm w/ vip20882000 on this one. Impossibles look tight.

SkiSk8er1287 · Newbie Joined: 27 Oct 2003 Posts: 16

alright...well when i put in my last entry, i was still learning, but now i've got the 360 flip...basically i had my feet in the same spot as the varial except my front foot was a little farther back, and all i did was just do was just do a fast varial flip with more emphasis on the shuv part, as long as you flick your front foot forward, the board will flip for you...note that i've only done this stationary, not in motion

Maestro · Posted: Mar 05, 2004 9:22 pm Post subject:

It's all about the scoop with the back foot. I put my rear foot more on the toe edge of the board, right where the curve of the tail is (where the kick of the tail and the concave of the board meet). Use this little groove to help scoop the board around with your rear foot - the front foot should really be positioned similar to where it is for a kickflip (maybe a bit closer to the tail). You just have to time the scoop and flick right, and figure out the correct amount of scoop and flip that will allow the board to pull of the trick cleanly. It's all practice

Fredrick Eisenhauer · Posted: Mar 06, 2004 7:20 am Post subject:

Well, I can get the flip pretty consistant having my back foot right on the tail and my front foot jsut behind the middle of the board. Im only having trouble stomping it.

s-s213 · Outlaw Joined: 12 Sep 2003 Posts: 150 City: Nanaimo

I'm not assuming your a beginner, but at any level of skateboarding I've ever seen in my life I haven't seen impossibles as a very popular trick. It's always good to do something original or at least not done very often, but I'm just saying considering the trick and the time put into learning it sometimes it isn't worth it.

For example if it's a really difficult trick, but it doesn't much help you progress, then maybe it's not worth putting too much time into learning. Not that progressing is everything, it's all about fun, but sometimes when you learn more basics that lead up to a trick, it's easier to catch on to instead of having to practice lots.

Anyways I didn't really mean to start this silly arguement in the first place, I'm just saying I wouldn't make too big of a deal over a trick like that. Would almost be better to focus more on 360 flips since there isn't too much of a difference between them. Maybe after that it would even be easier to learn impossibles like I said earlier in my post.

HyPe4eVeR · Posted: Mar 17, 2004 6:35 pm Post subject:

If you go to the DC site Danny Way gives ya tips to do a 360 flip, there maybe a impossible vid on there too.
http://www.dcshoes.com/main.asp

J-man04 · Newbie Joined: 18 Mar 2004 Posts: 2 City: phoenix

If you need help with an impossible or 3 flip then reply on this forum

J-man04 · Newbie Joined: 18 Mar 2004 Posts: 2 City: phoenix

all you have to do for a 360 flip is position your front foot as a kickflip and your back foot with your foot on the board but your toes hanging off,then you just scoop your back foot in the opposite direction its facing and while scooping it you flick your front foot straight out like a kickflip,then you let the board flip under you,once you see it coming back around just land on it.

Fredrick Eisenhauer · Posted: Mar 19, 2004 5:45 am Post subject:

The impossible will help you learn variations of the impossible now won't it? And I think your underestimating the popularity of impossibles a little.