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DRAGON88 Ladies Man


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Posted: Oct 24, 2003 8:16 pm Post subject: 19 Years of Audi evolution |
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here is just a photo of how far Audi has come in the past 19 years.
comparing the 4000s the modern day equlivilant is the A4.....
i will also throw up all my audi photos i have(tomarow)...

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ontrider Ladies Man


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Posted: Oct 24, 2003 8:20 pm Post subject: |
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DRAGON88, i think you need to join audiworld.com
My next car is going to be an A4, the only question is what colour?
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DRAGON88 Ladies Man


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Posted: Oct 24, 2003 8:35 pm Post subject: |
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I think i will.....
WEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!

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ontrider Ladies Man


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Posted: Oct 24, 2003 8:49 pm Post subject: |
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well... if we're posting pictures
just for you dragon
check these ones.

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scott a Ladies Man


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Posted: Oct 24, 2003 10:09 pm Post subject: |
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ehh...im kinda partial to the bmw 330Ci because im not a fan of sedans, but i will say that the Audi A8 quattro (not to mention S8 ) absolutely OWN!!! audis are really sick.
there is a pic of the new audi "super car" in the latest Car and Driver magazine...it looks pretty sweet. i havent had time to read the article though...
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BillJ Wakeboarder.Commie

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Posted: Oct 24, 2003 11:34 pm Post subject: |
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| The CEO of the company that I used to work for had a black S8 and it was a really nice car. Almost stealthy in that it didn't look like much except a sedan but it was quick and handled really well.
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ontrider Ladies Man


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Posted: Oct 25, 2003 5:44 am Post subject: |
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BillJ, the avants are pretty stealth too
Don't like to call them 'wagons' but that's what they are so I'd never get one myself, but the people's faces when their cars get blown away by an apparent 'family wagon'... yeah, one with 340 HP
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Maestro PityDaFool Who Posts This Much


Joined: 12 Jan 2003 Posts: 5252 City: Markham
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Posted: Oct 25, 2003 6:37 am Post subject: |
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| My buddy's dad has an A6 and its a pimp car...
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DJew Jake Wakeboarder.com Freak


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Posted: Oct 25, 2003 8:15 am Post subject: |
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Ok now that you looked at thsoe why dont you get a real car since AMG and BMW outclass those POS'S
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ontrider Ladies Man


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Posted: Oct 25, 2003 8:42 am Post subject: |
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aFramer, omg... I don't even know where to start. Have you ever driven/riden in an S4, RS4?? Have you driven a bmw either? If you had I don't think you'd be calling Audi's p.o.s. And if any of them are pos it's the mercedes.

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DRAGON88 Ladies Man


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Posted: Oct 25, 2003 1:24 pm Post subject: |
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yea Aframer, can you say S4=4.2 liter V8
S4 = Bi-turbo VS tuned by Costhworth tech...
or the Dhalback golf using the Audi Bi turbo V6 wich pushes 900 hp...
Mercedes wouldnt even be able to hang with a 1.8t
road and driver put the new 600 hp AMG up against the new RS6 and the RS6 beat the stuff out of the AMG...
and an M3 couldnt come close to hanging with an S4 more or less an RS4 and the M3 isnt AWD...
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Posted: Oct 25, 2003 1:29 pm Post subject: |
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P.O.S.-------->
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Posted: Oct 25, 2003 1:44 pm Post subject: |
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you know what guys, it doesn't really matter, cuz the a8 or whatever is what, 80,00 dollars right
well you can get a vette taht will tear up any audi, then put 30,000 dollars worth of modificationg to it be running like sub 10's, and then you'll actually be driving a car worth looking at, cuz we all the audi's look like volkswagens
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ontrider Ladies Man


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Posted: Oct 25, 2003 1:59 pm Post subject: |
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Audi's look like Volkswagons??? you gotta be kidding right?
A8 and Corvette... apples and oranges. Who races A8's
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Jello John Wakeboarder.Commie

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Posted: Oct 25, 2003 2:08 pm Post subject: |
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| I can kind of see how you could find some similarities between Audis and VWs, but they are still very different.
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Posted: Oct 25, 2003 2:29 pm Post subject: |
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| How can you compare an Audi to a Chevy? There's no possible way to do that! They're in totally different classes - One is a luxury auto, one is a sports car. I'd choose luxury over sport anyday.
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ontrider Ladies Man


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Posted: Oct 25, 2003 2:51 pm Post subject: |
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Jello John, i was kidding about them looking similar, I just don't know how he figured that out.
Volkswagen AG owns both companies and I believe the new Volkswagen Passat has the same B5 chassis as the old audi a4s (new a4's after 2000 have the B6 chassis)
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DJew Jake Wakeboarder.com Freak


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Posted: Oct 25, 2003 4:18 pm Post subject: |
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ok your saying the a8 is a pimpin ass car? It looks like a ugly stuff box, Ide take a 760 to it any day as for the coupe area the new M6 puts the s4 to shame best part it is NA something like 650hp stock. And audi trannys dont even come on the same level as a bmw tranny.
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Posted: Oct 25, 2003 4:46 pm Post subject: |
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ontrider, yeah, I just noticed the smiley face.
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ontrider Ladies Man


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Posted: Oct 25, 2003 4:54 pm Post subject: |
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Now we're comparing a car that's supposed to be out in like 2005 to the s4???
Isn't the new M6 supposed to be a 5.5 V10 or something?
yeah, a ferrari and a 911 will kill an s4 too.
If you're comparing cars you have to compare cars in the same 'class'.
So if we were talking A4s then compare it to bmw 3-series / volvo s60 / g35s etc...
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DRAGON88 Ladies Man


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Posted: Oct 25, 2003 5:40 pm Post subject: |
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| aFramer wrote: | | audi trannys dont even come on the same level as a bmw tranny. |
LMAO!!
BMW doesnt even make their own tranies.
also the S4 is equlivilant to the M3 not the M5.
Aframer, you obviously dont know stuff about cars so why dont you shut up..
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ontrider Ladies Man


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Posted: Oct 25, 2003 6:41 pm Post subject: |
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DRAGON88, i've changed my mind. I'm buying a kompressor
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DRAGON88 Ladies Man


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Posted: Oct 25, 2003 6:58 pm Post subject: |
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yea me and you both have to buy some "real" cars soon....
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DJew Jake Wakeboarder.com Freak


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Posted: Oct 25, 2003 7:18 pm Post subject: |
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| DRAGON88 wrote: | | aFramer wrote: | | audi trannys dont even come on the same level as a bmw tranny. |
LMAO!!
BMW doesnt even make their own tranies.
also the S4 is equlivilant to the M3 not the M5.
Aframer, you obviously dont know shizzle about cars so why dont you shut up.. |
no your comparing the new s4 to the "old" m3 so im just comparing the flagship coupe to the flagship coupe. As for the 760 vs a8 your lack of comment means you agree?
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DRAGON88 Ladies Man


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Posted: Oct 25, 2003 7:23 pm Post subject: |
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vovlo 760?
i dont know what the Bubb Rubb you are talking about
and an S8 would probably rock it regardless....
and the S4 is not the flagship car
the RS6 is... and it would beat the stuff out of a M5
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ontrider Ladies Man


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Posted: Oct 25, 2003 7:29 pm Post subject: |
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personally I wouldn't buy a 760 or an A8.
1. Not my type of vehicle.
2. I could never afford it.
3. If I did have that much money I'd buy a porsche.
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ontrider Ladies Man


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Posted: Oct 25, 2003 7:30 pm Post subject: |
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| DRAGON88, bmw 760Li I think he means
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DRAGON88 Ladies Man


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Posted: Oct 25, 2003 7:34 pm Post subject: |
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yea the S8 would Bubb Rubb that car over...
also in response to trannys... if Audi's Trannys are so shitty then why are all the old audi rally cars with stock trannys so good??
also the 6 speed gear box is one of the nicest ive ever driven!
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scott a Ladies Man


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Posted: Oct 25, 2003 7:43 pm Post subject: |
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haha wow this is great.
yeah i want a corvette too just like every other half bald retired guy in america owns...please...
DRAGON88, why does it matter who makes bmw's trannys? fact is the trannys they use are praised year after year.
if you think about it, there really is no truely fair comparison-
audis come with stick or auto/manumatic
amgs ONLY use manumatic transmissions
bmws are only stick
audis only are sedans
amgs are only sedans (except c65 amg, i want one)
bmws are only coupes
audis are 4 wheel drive (niiiice!)
amgs are 2 wheel drive
bmws are 2 wheel drive
for everyone that is interested in comparing the audi s4, bmw m3, and mb c32 amg, here are the facts. source: car and driver mag, may 2003. online article at http://www.caranddriver.com/article.asp?section_id=15&article_id=6568&page_number=1
audi- V8, 4.2L, 340 hp 4163cc
amg- V6, 3.2L 349 hp, 3199cc
bmw- I6, 3.2L, 333 hp, 3246 cc
audi- $45K estimated
amg- $54K
bmw- $50K
audi- .81g on skidpad
amg- .85g
bmw- .87g
audi- 5.0 (0-60 time)
amg- 5.2
bmw- 4.8
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scott a Ladies Man


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Posted: Oct 25, 2003 7:47 pm Post subject: |
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| DRAGON88 wrote: | | and an M3 couldnt come close to hanging with an S4 |
mmmmhmm. does someone have ownership goggles on?
bmw m3= 4.8 secs to 60
audi s4= 5.0 secs to 60
you can go ahead and tell me how there are faster times that so and so recorded, but it doesnt matter. the thing is these cars were tested under the exact same conditions at the same time, and the same group of testers got a 4.8 second and 5.0 second time to 60.
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DRAGON88 Ladies Man


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Posted: Oct 25, 2003 7:51 pm Post subject: |
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| scott a wrote: |
DRAGON88, why does it matter who makes bmw's trannys? fact is the trannys they use are praised year after year.
if you think about it, there really is no truely fair comparison-
audis come with stick or auto/manumatic
amgs ONLY use manumatic transmissions
bmws are only stick
audis only are sedans
amgs are only sedans (except c65 amg, i want one)
bmws are only coupes
audis are 4 wheel drive (niiiice!)
amgs are 2 wheel drive
bmws are 2 wheel drive
audi- 5.0 (0-60 time)
amg- 5.2
bmw- 4.8 |
ok few things
Audi is not all sedans you can get an RS4 S4 A4 A6 RS6 all in the Avant Model...(wagon)
Audi does have the Quattro Feature, but you can get cars with out quattro (i dont know why you wouldnt want it though its awesome, it was the first car implemented AWD system, used in the group B rally cars of the 80's...)
the audi is of course gonna have a slower 0-60 time, its allweel drive..
scott, the reason being that he clamied that BMW made great transmissions, wich is false their sports trannys are all SMG (sick trannys).. dont get me wrong i understand SMG makes a damn good tranny but it isnt BMW makeing them...
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DRAGON88 Ladies Man


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scott a Ladies Man


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Posted: Oct 25, 2003 7:58 pm Post subject: |
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DRAGON88, when i said "audi" i was referring to the s4. my point was that there are no 2 door s4s
why did you claim that an "m3 still couldnt hang with an s4?"
he never said that bmw made their tranny, only that the bmw's tranny was better.
look at the stats. all of these 3 cars are very similar performance-wise. it all comes down to personal preference.
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ontrider Ladies Man


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Posted: Oct 25, 2003 8:02 pm Post subject: |
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scott a, .2 seconds... wow. 0-60 doesn't make the car. Ask anyone who has driven an M3 and an S4 and if they're honest they'll tell you the S4 outhandles the M3 big time.
If you look at the top of the pages in the article, they've labelled first second and third place as well... What place did they give the M3 again???
And as I was saying about the mercedes.
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scott a Ladies Man


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Posted: Oct 25, 2003 8:03 pm Post subject: |
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hahaha you seriously want me to answer that? im sure you read it. quit trying to prove to yourself that the s4 is better than the m3. like i said its all personal preference. if you have the magazine in front of you (which i do), you would know that these reviews are subjective, they too are personal preference. if you had to pick a winner because of performance stats, your beloved s4 would have lost.
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