Video Cams, Editing Ect

WakeTech · Addict Joined: 19 Jan 2003 Posts: 949 City: Edmonton

Just wondering what you are using for vid camera's and which are good/bad ect. Also what software you use to edit and is it really easy to make vidz, ect, ect. Any info would be greatly appreciated.

Later

Jeff · Addict Joined: 13 Jan 2003 Posts: 678 City: Long Island

theres ben alot of threads on this lattly, i just got a cannon zr 50, its awsome

boardnman · Posted: Feb 07, 2003 9:10 pm Post subject:

hey jeff, i just got a canon zr 45, is there really much difference between these two camcorders? also i was curios, i have a labtop and i just installed the software for editing and it says i need a fire wire and my computer doesnt have that....anyone know how much an adapter or know something that will make it work?
ryan

George · Addict Joined: 12 Jan 2003 Posts: 552 City: Chattanooga

i know you can get a firewire adapter for a laptop pci slot and i think they are around $75.

scott a · Ladies Man Joined: 13 Jan 2003 Posts: 9810

i use either a canon gl-1, canon xl-1, sony vx-2000 depending on when and where i am. i use adobe premiere 6. for me makin vids is easy but i dont suggest premiere to a beginning video editor cuz its may be a bit intimidating and complex to use.

Zach M · Posted: Feb 07, 2003 10:47 pm Post subject:

I use a sony dcr-trv 530 and adobe premiere 6.0. I sometimes use after effects also.

DudeManWes · Criminal Joined: 12 Jan 2003 Posts: 96

Sony 3 chips are the best DV cameras. Premiere and Avid are the best editors for PC. Final Cut is the best for Mac.

scott a · Ladies Man Joined: 13 Jan 2003 Posts: 9810

what makes you say that sony 3 chips are better than the rest? have you used other cameras or are you just proud of your sony 3 chip?

Premier135Chick · Guest

3 chips=3 CCDS (charged-coupled devices). If the camera has three, then the camera is considered a higher-ended camera with a higher quality picture then a typical consumer camera which usually only has one or two.

I am learning how to edit videos in Avid this semester in my post production class!! A friend of mine is going to show me around final cut pro...

WakeTech · Addict Joined: 19 Jan 2003 Posts: 949 City: Edmonton

What are your preferences between dig8 , dv, dvd.

Premier135Chick · Guest

I have only shot stuff on DV so far. Next semester, there is an 16 mm class I would like to take. Just want to do it for the experience and knowledge.

otiswunguy · Addict Joined: 13 Jan 2003 Posts: 871 City: Sammamish

what about non digital video edited off the computer then transfered to it. a friend of mine does lighting and visual effects for clubs. this is the method he uses. i can't remember the name of the equipment he used.

Nor*Cal · Ladies Man Joined: 12 Jan 2003 Posts: 9479 City: Sac

What would you reccomend for computer editing? I'm going to build a new comp soon and was wondering what it should have?

Premier135Chick · Guest

otiswunguy-I am not sure of the exact name of what you are talking about. I do know that anytime you use any type of analog editing (not digital), there is a definite generation loss. In layman terms, that means less picture quality.

For any kind of digital editing, I would recommend learning how to use final cut pro..

otiswunguy · Addict Joined: 13 Jan 2003 Posts: 871 City: Sammamish

my friend uses the computer for visuals but prefers the speed and jog shuttle type design along with reliability. all editing is done on his big screen from the comfort of his couch. if you live in seattle you may recognize his work at the Showbox and other clubs.

Premier135Chick · Guest

I am from Seattle Smile

jumalian · Ladies Man Joined: 12 Jan 2003 Posts: 7625 City: san diego

Nor*Cal,

Get Adobe Premier 6.5. I've heard that Final Cut Pro is pretty good, too.

otiswunguy · Addict Joined: 13 Jan 2003 Posts: 871 City: Sammamish

premier- he just moved to san fran where he is doing shows now.

Premier135Chick · Guest

Cool. Is he just doing shows for concerts and parties and stuff like that? When I used to go to raves back in the day, I would see the visual guys and all of their equipment. They can do some cool stuff.....

scott a · Ladies Man Joined: 13 Jan 2003 Posts: 9810

are you going to build one yourself or go to dell.com (or ibm.com etc)?
if your gonna build a new comp get tons of memory and get as fast of a processor as you can. i would suggest at least 1 gig of ram and a 2 gig or faster processor. i would get a nice video card and nice sound card as well. think about a nice (big) monitor.
if you get a pc i would get premiere 6 or 6.5, and if you get a mac get final cut pro 3.

otiswunguy · Addict Joined: 13 Jan 2003 Posts: 871 City: Sammamish

i think he is strictly doing the club thing now. i'll find out which one. if you can see the screens in the background you can see how complex the video is. lots of layering,fades and wipes. plus he can get media anywhere, not just from a digital camera.

ace · Newbie Joined: 08 Feb 2003 Posts: 35

what are you supposed to use for cams without USB connection? how do you connect to your PC? Just wondering...

Premier135Chick · Guest

I use a firewire that connects my camera directly to my pc. Cost me all of thirty dollars....if that.

wakedork · Posted: Feb 10, 2003 8:05 am Post subject:

If you want to do real video production at home, get a Mac and Final Cut Pro, but FCP is kinda hard to learn due to it's so indepth. Imovie is easier to learn.

Seth Martin · Moderator Joined: 12 Jan 2003 Posts: 891 City: Orlando

For 90% of the people that will be making wakeboarding movies and putting them on wakepics, heres what you need:

Computer:
faster the better processor, I have a P3 7something and it does fine - but i wish it was a little faster
as much memory as possible - I have 512 and could use more, but what i have works
biggest fastest Hard drive - people always leave this out, you need size and speed(transfer rate) - there is a lot to learn about this but for the average person 7200 rpm drives are fine though - i have a 20 gig drive just for editing
firewire card and cable - to connect to the camera, I guess USB will work fine - but i have never used it

Camera - Any MiniDV camera will work fine. I've seen clips made with all different brands/types of camera and they all achieved their goal. As long as you can buy extra batteries for it and it has a firewire port, then it will do the job.

Software - Final Cut Pro has been called the best. But most people don't have Macs. Premiere, Vegas Video or any that you have heard of will do the job. Most people just want to make a cool little movie showing some riding, not Saving Private Ryan II.

BigFeeeel · Criminal Joined: 07 Feb 2003 Posts: 59 City: NorCal

Let's kill a rumor right now. YOU CANNOT DO DV VIDEO THROUGH A USB PORT! It has to be firewire (IEEE1394).

Get a Mac, then get a camera. It is that simple.

Seth Martin · Moderator Joined: 12 Jan 2003 Posts: 891 City: Orlando

What about the Sony Digital 8 cameras. I don't have any first hand knowledge with them, just what I have heard. I've heard that you can transfer Digital Video over USB with those cameras. Can anyone confirm?

scott a · Ladies Man Joined: 13 Jan 2003 Posts: 9810

anyone know how final cut pro is better than premiere? im curious to know how many people here actually know how to use fcp or if everyone is just jumping on the "fcp is best" bandwagon. im not saying that one is better than the other, im just sick and tired of hearing people say that fcp is best.
if anyone has used fcp to put stuff on wakepics id love to see it. maybe fcp IS better, but since new years i have been trying out fcp 3 at my school and i dont see that much difference. if you want to see some stuff ive done on premiere check out http://www.wakepics.com/view_single.php?medid=6106 or anything else in my sig. some vids are better than others...