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Fredrick Eisenhauer Wakeboarder.Commie
Joined: 05 May 2003 Posts: 1600 City: Australia, W.A
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Posted: Oct 09, 2003 11:32 pm Post subject: Esky Flip |
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This is a trick i think i might of invented but im just checking. Its pretty basic, a bs pop shuve it with a body varial in the opposite direction. WEll ive named it the esky flip because..... umm well i dunno. So haev these a name yet? _________________
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DRAGON88 Ladies Man
Joined: 12 Jan 2003 Posts: 8213 City: Portland, OR
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Posted: Oct 09, 2003 11:40 pm Post subject: |
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no, i dont think its ever been done before....
i do belive its a shuvit varial or varial shuvit.... ive been doing em for the past year or so, so there nothing new... _________________ wakeboards
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Zara Criminal
Joined: 28 Feb 2003 Posts: 68
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Posted: Oct 10, 2003 4:22 am Post subject: |
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as a rule of thumb most tricks that combine with a varial just add the "varial" to the title.
Fortunately or unfortunately, whichever way you wanna look at it, the days of guys giving tricks stupid names are pretty much over.
I guess we can leave that to wakeboarding now |
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Jester Wakeboarder.com Freak
Joined: 13 Jan 2003 Posts: 3297 City: Boston
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Posted: Oct 10, 2003 7:48 am Post subject: |
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Every week some kid asks if he's invented this exact trick. No you didn't invent it, apparently people have been doing it for years (although I've never seen anybody do it). The reason people keep asking if they've invented it is 'cuz an established pro hasn't named it. Probably 'cuz they don't do this trick. Which would explain why I haven't seen anybody ever do it. You like how I'm writing in sentence fragments? |
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Fredrick Eisenhauer Wakeboarder.Commie
Joined: 05 May 2003 Posts: 1600 City: Australia, W.A
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Posted: Oct 10, 2003 7:54 am Post subject: |
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Varial shuve it takes to long to say. ANd i know people might have been doing them for a while but i just wanna know what they call em. I probably used the wrong word invent but i didnt know what to use.
Zara when you add a varial to a trick its not always called [trick name] to varial. Take a sex change, kick flip varial. Big spin, #60 shuve it varial in the same direction.
But i guess im an idiot for starting this.... _________________
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Jester Wakeboarder.com Freak
Joined: 13 Jan 2003 Posts: 3297 City: Boston
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Posted: Oct 10, 2003 9:01 am Post subject: |
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It doesn't matter what other people call it, that's what I'm saying. I've heard it called a Kastalarial, a Celestrial, blah, blah, blah. The fact is, until a pro skater does it & gives it a name it won't have a well known name. Even a well known pro giving something a name doesn't guarantee it will take (Bob Burnquist's "Samba flip" as he calls it is still referred to as a kickflip indy handflip by everybody else).
And just a side note, if the board doesn't flip on the long axis (ie, kickflip or heelflip) it's improper to use flip in the trick name. |
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s-s213 Outlaw
Joined: 12 Sep 2003 Posts: 150 City: Nanaimo
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Posted: Oct 10, 2003 1:55 pm Post subject: |
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Bigspins your body turns in the same direction as the board so most people don't refer to it as a varial. Also a lot of people that do varials either can't spin the trick normally, or are Rodney Mullen. I see a lot of people that can spin 3 flips and such but need to spin their body in the opposite direction or something. It's pretty weird and I wouldn't call 90% of body varial tricks an actual trick. |
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Zara Criminal
Joined: 28 Feb 2003 Posts: 68
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Posted: Oct 10, 2003 7:48 pm Post subject: |
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vip20882000 wrote: | Varial shuve it takes to long to say. ANd i know people might have been doing them for a while but i just wanna know what they call em. I probably used the wrong word invent but i didnt know what to use.
Zara when you add a varial to a trick its not always called [trick name] to varial. Take a sex change, kick flip varial. Big spin, #60 shuve it varial in the same direction.
But i guess im an idiot for starting this.... |
I'm sorry, now that I'm rereading my post I didn't write my though out very well. I think you misunderstood what I meant. My point was similar to Jesters in that almost all tricks that are given names by pros are simply combined tricks that you can also just refer to in the order they happen. Take a half cab for example.
Basically its the same thing as say taking a fs boardslide to 270 out and calling it "an atomic slip'n'slide from hell" If I wanted to rename a trick sequence I guess I could, but why would i want to?
As usual Jester, you articulate your thoughts better than I, even in fragmented sentences... and somewhere a grammar teacher rolls in his grave... |
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Zara Criminal
Joined: 28 Feb 2003 Posts: 68
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Posted: Oct 10, 2003 7:49 pm Post subject: |
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once again upon rereading my post I dont think I explained my point very well. Anyone with any psychic ability, feel free to step in and throw me a lifesaver... I'm sinking here! |
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Fredrick Eisenhauer Wakeboarder.Commie
Joined: 05 May 2003 Posts: 1600 City: Australia, W.A
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Posted: Oct 11, 2003 6:09 am Post subject: |
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Jester, i dont want this name to be well known. I just want a name i can refer to.
s-s213, im not doing a varial because my body wants to im doing it for variation. And i reckon a 3 flip varial would look better then a straight out 3 flip.
Zara, you might wanna name a sequence because its easier to say then fs board slide to 270 out or i dunno for fun.
In my original post i change the word "invent" to does that trick have a name yet? _________________
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gvw686 Addict
Joined: 05 Sep 2003 Posts: 664 City: Columbus
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Posted: Oct 11, 2003 1:33 pm Post subject: |
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its called a small spin i think |
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Fredrick Eisenhauer Wakeboarder.Commie
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Posted: Oct 12, 2003 5:15 am Post subject: |
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oh right... as opposed to big spin _________________
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gvw686 Addict
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Posted: Oct 12, 2003 8:25 am Post subject: |
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i didnt make it up becuase of that i have just heard a few people call it that. not sure if its correct or not but thats what i call them now |
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Jester Wakeboarder.com Freak
Joined: 13 Jan 2003 Posts: 3297 City: Boston
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Posted: Oct 12, 2003 12:44 pm Post subject: |
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vip20882000 wrote: | Jester, i dont want this name to be well known. I just want a name i can refer to. |
Oh, well if that's the case then call it whatever you want. If you like Esky flip go with it. That small spin thing the one guy said is kinda cool.
Zara, I'm a little embarrassed to admit this (I don't know why, must be a guy thing), but you've been skating longer than me so you probably know it better. I respect you independent of your grammar (even though it IS terrible, ha ha! ) |
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criminally_minded Wakeboarder.com Freak
Joined: 12 Jan 2003 Posts: 2922 City: An ocean of vibrant sound
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Posted: Oct 12, 2003 3:16 pm Post subject: |
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vip20882000 wrote: | JesterAnd i reckon a 3 flip varial would look better then a straight out 3 flip. | = bigflip _________________ Terminate high thinking |
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Inggy Addict
Joined: 25 Jan 2003 Posts: 878 City: Vancouver, Washington
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Posted: Oct 12, 2003 8:18 pm Post subject: |
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I've never seen it done before, but I have been doing them for a while. I dont think you invented it. Sorry dude, but skating has been around for 40 years. Every trick has been invented or tried before.
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Fredrick Eisenhauer Wakeboarder.Commie
Joined: 05 May 2003 Posts: 1600 City: Australia, W.A
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Posted: Oct 12, 2003 10:00 pm Post subject: |
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Yeah i already acknowledged i didnt invent it. _________________
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