toeside angle

SuperAirRider · Posted: Aug 12, 2003 10:14 pm Post subject: toeside angle

I was just wondering if the correct way to hit the wake toeside is at a perfect 90 degree angle to the wake..like perpendicular...and does that make it easier to land and go bigger?

ben746 · Addict Joined: 04 Aug 2003 Posts: 560

its probably about 45 degrees maybe a bit more

J_DOGG · Posted: Aug 13, 2003 7:35 am Post subject:

This is a great question that me and my peeps have talked about in the past....

We all think it's best to take a real strong progressive approach for most all tricks from the TS edge..... What people have a tendency to do is set the board on edge real early in the cut at the wake and never let off or add, they just hold it right up the wake... this works but can cause all sorts of balance issues when leaving the wake into the air... I have found not starting out as far and progressively cutting into the wake increasing speed and line load right to the end keeps you in a more balance position when you leave the wake into the air.... If you land your TS jumps on the tail of the board (front leg way up in front of you) a lot you are not leaving the wake balanced.

My scarecrow cut is like this, I start out less than I do for the TS 360/540 and increase my edge at the wake right to the top when I then change the edge and trip over the wake, this take me up more than out. I see people take that real aggressive cut for the scarecrow and generate so much speed they end up tripping over the wake at the bottom and never get any real height. A good crow will look like you just came out of a big front flip and took it to revert. The aggressive cut makes it SBend style all laid out and is usually best when trying to take the trick to the flats... Greg Necrason comes to mind when I think of this type of scarecrow, he takes them huge.

The actual angle will change depending on the trick and approach used for that particular trick but you will always be in balance. A good rule of thumb is 90 degrees is more for Raley / glide type tricks i.e. batwing, TS Krypt, scarecrow's into the flats etc...

indywakechica · Addict Joined: 07 Jul 2003 Posts: 645 City: Indianapolis

I have a problem with my TS too....it seems like I can't do squat on that side. Glad to see your post cuz I was going to ask the same thing. I wasn't sure what was going on...thought maybe wasn't cutting far/hard enough on that side. I'm definitely not doing any scarecrows J_dogg but think that helps. Think I'll work on my cutting a bit but know that I don't have to try to get the angle to a straight up 90 degrees and just figure out what angle works and feels comfy to me. If anyone has any other pointers that helped them getting TS jumps....appreciate all the help I can get Smile

wakeguy2008 · Addict Joined: 16 Jul 2003 Posts: 847 City: Ft. Myers

You want to turn away from the boat and keep the handle low and close to your front hip. Stand tall and to be afraid and you'll be clearin the wake...well thats how i do it...later Mr. Green

Sportster4Tec · Posted: Aug 14, 2003 10:25 am Post subject:

Yeah i think i lot of the problems people have on their ts edge(me included) is like what j-dogg said we dont really do a progressive edge but just kinda cut at the same line tension through the whole cut. Partly because it is harder to cut on your ts edge and partley because we dont feel as comfortable cutting and jumping on our toeside edge.