no wake inverts

determination · Posted: Apr 21, 2003 11:52 am Post subject: no wake inverts

wtf is up with these can anyone actually do these inverts without a wake?

Rocko · Posted: Apr 21, 2003 11:53 am Post subject:

people do it at the cable park, so i guess so.

htownbdr · Posted: Apr 21, 2003 12:00 pm Post subject:

they are called "air" tricks and yes they can be done. But, for some reason, they have kind of a gay stigma to them. Kind of like a fashion air.

there are air air raleys, air rolls, air whirly birds (go by a different name though), and all other sorts of tricks. I have only seen someone do an air back roll. Looks pretty cool. They cut one way, then back the other and loaded the hell out of the line, popped up and did an invert.

riverfreak · Posted: Apr 21, 2003 12:06 pm Post subject:

I have a friend that can does them, how in the hell are they considered "gay"? thats hard as hell to load the line and go inverted and land with no wake, it is just sic when he does them, Parks does em' - makes it look easy..... I wouldn't say gay, just about anyone can invert off a wake? not many can do it in the flats

x2xwakegurlx2x · Guest

thats what people do on cable, they do them without a wake, or off a kicker, there hard too, they take alot of practice, if you look in some videos they have some guys doing them

scott a · Ladies Man Joined: 13 Jan 2003 Posts: 9810

im finishing a video where one of the riders does a roll to revert on one side of the wake then a roll on the other side.

DockSecret · Addict Joined: 14 Mar 2003 Posts: 756 City: Austin, TX

I definitely wouldn't call them gay. Especially those S-bend 313 and triple s-bends (Hey wakegurl, has Rob landed one before, I think he attempted it at TSR last year). Of course these tricks are at the cable, I'm unsure if anyone can do it behind just a boat, besides the Air Rolls, Air Raley, and Tweety Bird (Air Whirly Bird i think)

htownbdr · Posted: Apr 21, 2003 12:58 pm Post subject:

Just to clear this up, I didn't call them gay. That is just the feeling I get when poeple talk about them or do them. they definately seem hard as hell and look like they take a lot of line control, timing,and skill.

But, the only person I know that can do them thinks that they are kind of lame and doesn't do them that much because of that reason.

STPHNSN23 · Guest

maybe he's the gay one

derrick lenz · Posted: Apr 21, 2003 1:48 pm Post subject:

back in the day i had the chane to ride with jacob koncak and he was doing air mobes. i for one think that air tricks should stay on the cable but if you want to do them it's your choice.

Dirty$outhRida · Addict Joined: 24 Feb 2003 Posts: 665 City: Austin, Tx.

thats crazy ive never seen one done

DockSecret · Addict Joined: 14 Mar 2003 Posts: 756 City: Austin, TX

Dirty$outhRida33, never seen one done behind the boat or cable?

koltman · Addict Joined: 15 Jan 2003 Posts: 902 City: Sydney/Orlando

People call them gay, becuase they look alot like tricksking tricks. (I'm not calling them gay).
but the ones I know can be done behind a boat are: Air Roll, Air Roll to revert, Belair (tantrum), Scarecrow, Tweety Bird (whirly), Belair to blind, Air Mobe, Switch air mobe, Air Mobe 5, Air frontflip.

x2xwakegurlx2x · Guest

im not sure Docksecret, i dont know what they all look like, he probably has landed it, but i am not sure

DockSecret · Addict Joined: 14 Mar 2003 Posts: 756 City: Austin, TX

Well here's the video of him attempting it at TSR

http://www.texasskiranch.com/general/photos/videos/Rob_TripleS.mov

x2xwakegurlx2x · Guest

ooo ok, then i am definitly not sure, i dont think i have ever seen him attempt that at Rixen, but i may have not been there when he did, but i dont think i have ever seen him try it, i think it would be easier for him to land it there becasue i heard TSR's cabel is alot better and it pulls ya up more, and with that combined with the air he already can get, would probably make it easier to land it there, thats just my opinion though...would the "no wake" inverts be the same behind boat as they are on cable Derrick?

derrick lenz · Posted: Apr 21, 2003 2:33 pm Post subject:

wakegirl- they'd probably be the same basic principle but harder cause the rope isn't as high. i think i'd probably be able to do an air air ralley behind the boat but i don't really have any desire to do it.

ghettolake415 · Posted: Apr 21, 2003 3:07 pm Post subject:

yeah it feels alot different behind a boat then the cable!!!!!!! I think Air Raleys (they r also called square raleys) are done around turns too.

Slaytwebeling · Addict Joined: 05 Feb 2003 Posts: 892 City: Houston

Those and lip tricks look awsome, Froggy does one in the disney commercial i think. I hate to use that as a reference though

determination · Posted: Apr 21, 2003 5:08 pm Post subject:

oh yeah i forgot about cable,

Josh R · Posted: Apr 21, 2003 9:16 pm Post subject:

If I call them 'gay' will I get mauled to death here?

SCBrips · Guest

Yeah you will, Josh.

Don't take my post the wrong way in the other thread. I really would rather hear that than the crap announcing that goes on today.

Josh R · Posted: Apr 21, 2003 9:37 pm Post subject:

It's all good, I'm cool with anyone who has a name like SCBrips... Wink

I won't call air tricks anything.
I'll just say that I personally rank them right up there with Air Raley's and Fashion Airs...

BTW, I don't count Air tricks as things on cable.

SCBrips · Guest

Right on.

wakeriderof87 · Posted: Apr 22, 2003 6:34 am Post subject:

i don't like the way they look to much behind a boat, they look all right on cable. I understand they are hard, but they don't have much style. Its like trick skiing its hard, but it is just ugly to watch

WakeBoardingManiac · Addict Joined: 12 Jan 2003 Posts: 914 City: Montréal

Well, I saw a good couple of air tricks with the video that came with my Jobe wakeboard... They were made by Gerry Nunn, and they DEFINITELY had lots of style!

Dees · Posted: Apr 22, 2003 10:23 am Post subject:

someone does one in WAKETV vol 9. Its the episode that Pat is in (well he porbable in more then one) Its the one where there singing "JUMP THE WAKE" and what's his name say, "You'll get my mic when you pry it from my dead, cold hands". I think it's 9. But the trick looks dope.

Nathan Newman · Addict Joined: 08 Feb 2003 Posts: 711 City: Baylor

dope...
I hate that term for cool

anyways, yeah air tricks are cool variations in your run. I think I'll try and learn an air roll or something

BigTimer · Posted: Apr 22, 2003 11:02 am Post subject:

They are not "Air" tricks when they are done on a cable. That is simply cable wakeboarding. Air tricks are done behind the BOAT, outside the wake. BTW, they were cool like 4 years ago, now they are pretty much considered gay. Yep, that's right, I said they're gay. So are fashion airs, yet I still find myself pulling a fashion every once in awhile. I guess they are fun for a little variety every once in a great while.

Lip tricks on the other hand are "dope".

Later...

WakeBoardingManiac · Addict Joined: 12 Jan 2003 Posts: 914 City: Montréal

And why would something that was cool 4 years ago be considered gay now?

koltman · Addict Joined: 15 Jan 2003 Posts: 902 City: Sydney/Orlando

Its wasn't really considered "cool" years ago, just a trick that could score you lots of points in a contest. Because back then contests had 4 w2w tricks per pass, and you could do as many tricks outside the wake as you wanted, so you could really bump up your score.

Mr. Wonka · Criminal Joined: 05 Mar 2003 Posts: 83 City: orlando

i hit an air roll to blind the other day
and they're just gay cuz you can't do 'em

WakeBoardingManiac · Addict Joined: 12 Jan 2003 Posts: 914 City: Montréal

Well said Mr. Wonka!

koltman · Addict Joined: 15 Jan 2003 Posts: 902 City: Sydney/Orlando

Hey, I didn't say they were gay, but like today "air" tricks have never been the "cool" trick to do. I was just making an observation. It was a way of bumbing up your score. But I think air tricks are a good variation to have in your run.

Mr Wonka. Air roll to blind, thats pretty tuff, did you do it in the flats or off the lip?

Nathan Newman · Addict Joined: 08 Feb 2003 Posts: 711 City: Baylor

how would you go about pulling an air roll? I haven't seen any tips on this one...