School me on: 2002 Maristar 230 VRS - Pics added

LaynDoor · Outlaw Joined: 26 Feb 2010 Posts: 152 City: Meriden CT

Bambamski, I dont need a 23' boat... but at this point my family is a big consideration... and they would be much happier with the breathing room the 23'er provides.

LaynDoor · Outlaw Joined: 26 Feb 2010 Posts: 152 City: Meriden CT

Little update: Did some recon on the boat over the weekend

1- Maintenance history on the boat: It was brought to my home lake/marina in 05 and has been there ever since... 100% maintained by the marina... records include starter, alternator, fuel pump, water pump, plat plugs, rudder cable, and all routine fluid changes/winterizing/storage... Also perfect pass was installed by the marina, so it has never seen salt... records seemed really complete with a big bill in 07... didn’t seem to explain the boats current condition, and nothing has been touched yet with the exh system.

2- Reputation of owner / boat: I love the gas dock guys, they are like door men, they know all the dirt... I asked about the boat and he knew ALL about it and the owner... Said the guy was meticulous, boat was really well maintained, bla bla bla... he went on and on about how great the guy was... I told him nothing he was saying made sense given the condition of the boat... That’s when it all came together... Owner bought a 2011 X45 loaded (I knew the boat, we were actually riding the same line a couple weeks back, boat is rediculous) and hasn’t touched the boat since, marina was supposed to sell it but never did... boat was put in the water at the beginning of the year and that’s where it sat until it was taken out to winterize about a month ago. Hence the mildew on the seats, sun baked gel, and wet storage areas (we got hit by Irene)... Possible for that much wear/damage from one season of sitting on the water un-used?

No earth shattering information, just good stuff to know I guess... Still trying to work out a test drive at the beginning of next month followed by a stint in the shop for a complete check up... I'll let you guys know how I make out.

BTW, the more I read about MC gelcoat, the less concerned I am about the bottom paint... its common on my lake for a boat to be put in the water in April/May, slipped for the summer, and taken out in Oct/Nov... since MC's seem prone to random blistering I may just prep/smooth the bottom and re-apply with a hard (white) offshore racing bottom paint (if this boat works out).

Nor*Cal What do you think? You seem to have alot of experience with bottom paint... Any boat I buy is going to be subjected to being in the water for long periods of time (for sure more than a month, maybe up to 7 months)... might not be a bad Idea to let the current owner take the resale hit due to bottom paint and have the hull protected at the same time... makes the hit to me when I go to sell it sting a little less... and I wont have to worry about the gel blistering.

Chattwake · Posted: Oct 18, 2011 9:03 am Post subject:

I'm sorry, it looks like someone tried to drive that boat across the sahara desert, parked it in a tar pit, then watched while it was attacked by sharks with friggin' laser beams on their heads, then threw a Russian rave party in it, and then shipped the boat to Detroit and opened a soup kitchen in it.

I would punch those gas dock guys in the face. WHY THE HELL WOULD YOU PUT BOTTOM PAINT ON A NON-SALT WATER BOAT? Something's not adding up. You need to hire Angela Lansberry to figure out who murdered that boat.

LaynDoor · Outlaw Joined: 26 Feb 2010 Posts: 152 City: Meriden CT

Chattwake,

First, thats one of the funniest posts I have ever read...

Second, im guessing the orig owner had the boat in salt, hence the bottom paint... judging by the condition of the paint it obviously hasnt been done since it came to fresh (at least 6 years ago)... bottom paint is designed to wear off over time... so, you have what we see here.

as to why bottom paint a non salt water boat... To someone who has never thought twice about leaving a boat in fresh water, im with you... But the ammount of gel blister occurances over on MC Team Talk is crazy!

TnR6Rida · Posted: Oct 18, 2011 9:58 am Post subject:

Seriously...don't buy that boat.

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Nor*Cal · Ladies Man Joined: 12 Jan 2003 Posts: 9479 City: Sac

I'm with the rest of these guys... This is a bad buy. All the explanations still do not add up. Not to mention there's oil in the bilge. That's a big concern. And why wouldn't the marina wash, wax, and clean the carpets if they are selling the boat? I would not spend money on that boat.

I also wouldn't bottom paint a fiberglass boat in fresh water. I would make sure the rigging is bonded and add a magnesium anode.

Nor*Cal · Ladies Man Joined: 12 Jan 2003 Posts: 9479 City: Sac

PimpinD2 · Posted: Oct 19, 2011 5:45 am Post subject:

What if he wants a project? =P

And why does salt water scare everyone? I have a 94 prostar 205 with 1700 hours used and abused in salt water...

Of course i might be a bit more anal than the rest when it comes to keeping my boat running.

I do agree that 19k is way to much. Recently i just picked up a 2006 X1 with 800 hours mcx engine trailer, pp, pro ballast etc... for 25k ... maybe shop around a bit more?

Haugy is pretty good at research, BUT REALLY BAD AT GIVING ME HIS VINYL CLEANING RECIPE, sorry had too....

Also why finance? That sounds terrible....

JeffreyCH · Posted: Oct 19, 2011 6:35 am Post subject:

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PimpinD2 · Posted: Oct 19, 2011 8:09 am Post subject:

haha, it's cool, i replaced all the skins for the most part. BUT let me know id love to test some more stuff.

Did you see my fiberglass install haha... kinda ghetto but once carpeted i think it came out great... and with 2600 watts of power the boat THUMPS

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PimpinD2 · Posted: Oct 21, 2011 6:39 pm Post subject:

You should see the crap that grows on my hull after sitting for 2 - 4 weeks... of course pulling out and washing it with on off hull cleaner, compounding with meguires and then washing / wax it looks good as new =P

LoudonTN · Posted: Oct 24, 2011 6:30 am Post subject:

I bought my Supra after it set out in the sun for a couple of years in Florida and the interior looked almost identical to the Maristar's. It looks like it's all in good shape and together now but the toll the stitching has paid for sitting in the sun will show after a single summer of use with people up and down and sitting and standing in the boat. Don't get into if you're not willing to deal with pulled away upholstery or don't have any interest in getting the whole thing reupholstered. I got my reupholster quoted around ~$2,200 and haven't bit the bullet yet but totally plan to.

Gibster786 · Newbie Joined: 03 Aug 2011 Posts: 30 City: Virginia Beach

A potential 19k for THAT. Are you kidding me. Id take my 10k bayliner back that was in perfect shape before I bought a mediocre wake boat. Buy it I guess. When you come back here asking questions, I am sure most of the knowledgeable members here will do this.... "Told ya so."

The guys here chiming in, I could ask them anything and they wont steer me wrong. Buying that boat, your setting yourself up and its not for a Raley.

Sure we love rubbing our 60k+ boats in peoples faces, remember we all started somewhere. The fact of the matter is we did not start with a hideous buy like this. There are so many more boats on the market that are project boats.

Commodore · Ladies Man Joined: 20 Jun 2005 Posts: 11636

BUMP to find out if he's actually bought this boat, or wised up?

So, LaynDoor, what ever happened?

weatherford · Soul Rider Joined: 14 May 2008 Posts: 471 City: Seattle

Update???

Btw LaynDoor, Don't take this the wrong way, but you're what's wrong with America these days.
WHY would you finance it if you can EASILY buy a new one like you said?

Your 30 with 1 kid, and another on the way. Don't be a statistic, If Daddy needs a toy, pay cash for it or don't get it!

mgs917 · Addict Joined: 17 Sep 2008 Posts: 532 City: Spartanburg

I also wonder what happened with this situation. We may never know, but the thread was very entertaining to read.

FlyZone CR · Posted: Dec 31, 2011 12:22 pm Post subject:

One of those WB.com mysteries. Like the effin X-ray thread; we'll probably never know...

Obsessed · Criminal Joined: 22 Feb 2011 Posts: 74 City: Bahrain

weatherford · Soul Rider Joined: 14 May 2008 Posts: 471 City: Seattle

Lol. I don't hate the guy, I hate his thinking.

I guess I was taught different than you. To me it's never a good idea to finance something when you have cash on hand. Haugy did the right thing.
Besides there are plenty of nice boats that run for 6k.

chawk610 · Addict Joined: 06 Jul 2010 Posts: 668 City: Fort Worth

My gut says he bought it anyway, and may not want for us to know? He is prolly on the mastercraft forum.

Chattwake · Posted: Jan 11, 2012 5:37 am Post subject:

My gut tells me he's on the Le Brea Tar Pits forum talking about the dinosaur fossils he found in the tar on the bottom of that boat.

TnR6Rida · Posted: Jan 31, 2012 2:52 pm Post subject:

Commodore · Ladies Man Joined: 20 Jun 2005 Posts: 11636

Well my guess is, he bought it. He hasn't come back in here since his last post in here. And seeing as how we berated him for thinking about it, I would bet he knows the humility and mocking that would come if he came in here and complained about it now, and asked for help. Laughing

Baltfrog · Addict Joined: 24 Jan 2012 Posts: 555 City: Baltimore

If i bought it and it was awesome, i would come back and rub it in. So he didn't buy it. Haugy you seem to be a bit of a boat guru. I am in the market planning on riding my i/o till it dies this summer with the plans of buying a used v drive for around 15-20k. Should i wait till the spring and have more to choose from, or should i buy in the winter? Any help would be much appreciated.

TnR6Rida · Posted: Feb 26, 2012 4:30 pm Post subject:

Baltfrog, No I bet he bought it. I'm with Haugy, I bet he just feels like a dumby wumby now.

Baltfrog · Addict Joined: 24 Jan 2012 Posts: 555 City: Baltimore

Hopefully after you reviving this, haugy will see my need for help with my search

Commodore · Ladies Man Joined: 20 Jun 2005 Posts: 11636

Could have sworn I responded. I will tomorrow Baltfrog, sorry for the delay.

Baltfrog · Addict Joined: 24 Jan 2012 Posts: 555 City: Baltimore

No need for an apology my good man, I'm in no hurry. You just seem wise in the ways of boat shopping and I'd love some pointers as I'm financially on target for the end of 2012 beginning of 2013 and want to know when to strike.