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NEW CAMERA........think im going to bite the bullet
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PostPosted: Mar 09, 2009 7:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i gotta find the thread from a photo forum a while back. so eff you.
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PostPosted: Mar 09, 2009 7:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sigma 18-50 better than nikon 17-55 and canons L whatever
http://www.thephotoforum.com/forum/photography-equipment-products-news-reviews/156191-tamron-17-50-f-2-8-vs-sigma-18-50-f2-8-a.html

and heres the thread for the tamron dickhole

http://www.thephotoforum.com/forum/photography-equipment-products-news-reviews/156261-tamron-vs-canon-f-2-8-zoom-bokeh-comparison.html

tamron pwns even harder here
http://www.thephotoforum.com/forum/photography-equipment-products-news-reviews/155501-comparing-340-lens-1250-lens.html
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PostPosted: Mar 09, 2009 7:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ejazzle, You suggest a $1100 70-200 to a person who's never held a camera before?
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PostPosted: Mar 09, 2009 9:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow. You got some cajones if you're gonna call ME a dickhole after staking a claim that flies in the face of common sense and then justify it with a link to a thread where nobody actually says the Tamron is better. Laughing

Look, what's in that thread is really nothing new. Some dude stands still and takes a photo of some plants and deduces that they look the same. Whatever. Heck, I'll one-up that and show you that a $500 Canon point&shoot can take just as good a photo as a $40,000 Hasselblad setup (here). Start using the equipment in less friendly environments and you'll start to see why some stuff is vastly more expensive than other stuff.

And as much as I hate pixel peeping and lens tests in lab environments, I'm gonna leave you with this. The image is Canon's lens...put your cursor over it to see the Tamron version. http://www.the-digital-picture.com/Reviews/ISO-12233-Sample-Crops.aspx?Lens=101&Camera=9&Sample=0&FLIComp=0&APIComp=0&LensComp=366&CameraComp=9&SampleComp=0&FLI=1&API=0

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PostPosted: Mar 10, 2009 2:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

DAMON: a camera DOES have to have lenses to work. Rolling Eyes Laughing
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PostPosted: Mar 10, 2009 2:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

so from what ive been reading and trying to absorb into my brain is:

.........24-70mm f2.8 is for close ups and so forth right?
.........18-50mm f2.8 is for ????? similar in range these two huh?
.........70-200mm is for long range

right or way wrong??? Embarassed

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PostPosted: Mar 10, 2009 6:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

hey,....just now thought about asking,......does the nikon 50d have the color adjustments???

-black & white
-old photo color
-blue psycho (thats what i call it)

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PostPosted: Mar 10, 2009 6:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

scott a, Laughing you know i was kiddin about the dickhole thing. jeeze. But think about it. How can you justify buying the canon. Those tests the Canon was obviously better, but in real life an OKAY photographer like myself and most other people wont tell that much of a difference. So thats why i linked those threads for you and key to read to see how in reality the tamron would be a better buy, for most people.
That link to the canon vs hassy review was kinda interesting. I'll read the whole thing later. Im going to ride.

Damon, yeah, actually two 1k plus lenses. Lenses and lighting are actually more important than the body.

key, the lens you bought right now is about perfect for everything. But if you wanna go a little wider go for the sigma 18-50. If you want to go longer go for the 70-200. The 24-70 is a mid range lens. The 18-50 is wide angle to mid range and you are correct about the 70-200.
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PostPosted: Mar 10, 2009 8:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ejazzle wrote:
Damon, yeah, actually two 1k plus lenses. Lenses and lighting are actually more important than the body.


*shakes head* it's like you don't have any clue who you're talking to...

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PostPosted: Mar 10, 2009 8:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

EJAZZLE: Wink Cool

.................and about the color change options,..........are the available with DSLR's??? (black and white and so forth?)

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PostPosted: Mar 10, 2009 9:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

DRAGON88, It's not even worth it!

key, Did you buy a camera yet? Go pick something up, use the kit lens, have fun. Let that sink in for a few months and a couple thousand shots then come back and tell us what you need.

Also, check out www.newschoolofphotography.com - they're not all snooty like the other photo sites.

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PostPosted: Mar 10, 2009 10:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh and it is mandatory to post here:

http://forums.wakeboarder.com/viewtopic.php?t=56085&start=1120&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=

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PostPosted: Mar 10, 2009 11:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

key wrote:
.................and about the color change options,..........are the available with DSLR's??? (black and white and so forth?)

I know my 40d has b/w and sepia. Not sure what the crazy blue color you are talking about is though. But in reality, you will mostly want to shoot normal and do any color adjustments afterwards. You will have much more control and more options when you use a program like photoshop to do you b/w shots.

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PostPosted: Mar 10, 2009 11:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

yea,.. i got one. but not in hand yet. i have to wait until i get up to the states the beginning of april to actually start using it.

www.cameralabs.com seems to be a good site as well..........

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PostPosted: Mar 10, 2009 4:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

DRAGON88, abosolutely not. anyways That last statement about lighting was directed toward key.


key wrote:
well i did bite the bullet. but made a few adjustments. i bought the 50d with the 28-135 lens. want to add a few other lenses to my arsenal, but for now i think this will get me started.

now i have to wait until the first of april to get home and use it. Sad


like i said before. you'll be good with that set up for a while. And don't waste money on cheap glass for your next purchase....
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PostPosted: Mar 11, 2009 2:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

definitly want to get a macro lens for close ups. been checking out www.cameralabs.com. they are set up like this site so browsing is a cinch. check-it.......
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PostPosted: Mar 11, 2009 4:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

now im looking around on the web for a printable version of my camera. nikon 50D. would like to read up on it before i actually have it in hand. still looking for this so if you guys know where i can go to get a printable version,..............spit it out....................THANKS..............
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PostPosted: Mar 11, 2009 6:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

..............found one............
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PostPosted: Mar 11, 2009 7:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

key wrote:
nikon 50D.

I thought you were getting the Canon 50d? Nikon doesn't have a 28-135mm lens which is what you said you were getting with it. What did you end up ordering, and from where?

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PostPosted: Mar 11, 2009 10:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i had to go back and check my invoice to see what i actually ordered. i ordered the canon 50d. ive been taking in so much info the past few days from the net about photography and details about my camera,...that i think my brain is fried. i need a break and let some of this sink in.

i asked over at cameralabs.com for a printable version of the owners manual for a nikon D50. im such an idiot,......i read about 3/4 of this damn manual. came in to check my messages just now and see i have been corrected. now i need to get the canon manual. gisssh what a dumb dumb!!!! i guess its all in the learning curve. HEHEHEHEHEEHE.............

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PostPosted: Mar 11, 2009 11:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

oh,........and i got it from bhphotovideo.com..................... Embarassed
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PostPosted: Mar 11, 2009 11:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

key, I know the feeling. I overloaded on info when I ordered my camera. Everything will make a lot more sense when you are actually holding your camera then when you are just reading about it ahead of time.
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PostPosted: Mar 12, 2009 2:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i thought i found a printable copy of the manual for the canon 50D. but when i went to copy it, it had "copy" stamped on it right down the middle. that sucks!!! i would really like to atleast read up on it.

got any references to get me a copy.........??????

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PostPosted: Mar 12, 2009 6:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

key, did you try this?

http://canon-50d.org/eos50d-h-en.pdf
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PostPosted: Mar 12, 2009 8:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i found one and printed it when i went to the printer here at work it had "copy" really big down the middle. then i went back and searched around and found one minus the "copy" down the middle.


so now its back to the beginning with the whole reading the manual thing. have to delete from memory yesterdays doings.......... Embarassed

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PostPosted: Mar 12, 2009 8:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can download a pdf of the manual from Canon's website.
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PostPosted: Mar 12, 2009 9:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ive got one. a friend just pointed out that the NIKON D90 is able to do fim in HD. my camera that i bought doesnt do film. BUMMER.............. Crying or Very sad
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PostPosted: Mar 12, 2009 12:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Neither do 'film.'
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PostPosted: Mar 12, 2009 12:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

scott a, Laughing
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PostPosted: Mar 13, 2009 2:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

.............and once again wrong use of words............. Embarassed

........i think you know what i mean................ Laughing

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