Let's talk about things

eeven73 · Posted: Feb 27, 2014 1:39 pm Post subject:

Yo, it be dead up dis piece.

^or something like that.

DRAGON88 · Posted: Feb 27, 2014 1:48 pm Post subject:

I was just noticing how dead the boat forum is- I'm not sure if that's a statement about the community generally or if the manufacturer specific forums (malibucrew, planetnautique, etc.) are at this point a better resource for owners.

chavez · RIP MHL 04/25/1958 - 01/11/2006

DRAGON88, or the fact that half of the USA is frozen.

But yeah, in general it's slowed down quite a bit.

eeven73 · Posted: Feb 27, 2014 1:54 pm Post subject:

I don't think the last 6-7 years have been marvelous in the large ticket indulgence category.

It really is amazing the transformation of the Portland market since 08.

Active has Natique, Malibu and Supra/Moomba lines. No conflict there Rolling Eyes

speaks volumes to the viability of stand alone dealer, which I am sure they all would prefer.

chavez · RIP MHL 04/25/1958 - 01/11/2006

eeven73, the dealer consolidation here that really blew me away was not watersports-specific...

Down here, Roseville Honda/Kawi/Suzi folded, and about 9 months later, the Yamaha dealer (one of the best in CA, esp for service) became Roseville Yamaha/Honda/Kawi/Suzuki. Nope, no conflict at all.

It does speak tremendous volume to a dealer of high-ticket discretionary (predominantly) items. There just isn't enough of the pie to go around these days in that narrow segment.

RampageWake · Posted: Feb 27, 2014 2:01 pm Post subject:

Maybe since the HELOC party days are behind us, boat ownership is not as prevalent, I knew several owners back in the day that probably should have just been riders. Neutral

DRAGON88 · Posted: Feb 27, 2014 2:05 pm Post subject:

At least Active isn't going to sell your boat while it's sitting in their lot waiting to be serviced... Shocked

The other obvious explanation would be that people have moved onto facebook and other social networking platforms instead of specialized forums like this. There has also been a huge drop off on the Audi forums as well in the past 2-3 years.

ohsix · Posted: Feb 27, 2014 2:15 pm Post subject:

Have you seen what a nice wakeboard boat costs now compared to 2003? My dad bought a used Malibu VLX for $60k a couple of years ago. That would have come close to buying a new SANTE in 2003.

DRAGON88 · Posted: Feb 27, 2014 2:29 pm Post subject:

flixmaster · Site Owner Joined: 30 Oct 2003 Posts: 7488

Some dealers are telling me this has been the best boat selling Jan and Feb in a long time. But I still think most dealers are at 1/2 or 3/4 of what they were selling before the boat crash of 2008.

Canucked · Addict Joined: 12 Apr 2005 Posts: 873 City: Edmonton

I am going to buy a new(er) boat soon...trying to get a startup off the ground first.
Otherwise I would be actively looking.

I won't be spending over 50ish which is pretty easy if you don't care about surf-o-tab-o-matic 5000 systems.

2nd gen SAN, Axis, VLX etc. are tops for me (22ft and under) 2008 to 2010

DRAGON88 · Posted: Feb 27, 2014 4:28 pm Post subject:

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flixmaster · Site Owner Joined: 30 Oct 2003 Posts: 7488

Axis did come in at the 40K range and are still in that 40-60+ range. I think Mastercraft is launching a new boat this year in that range? Not positive but I thought I heard that.

E.J. · Ladies Man Joined: 15 Jan 2003 Posts: 7597 City: Mogadishu

Seriously makes me laugh to think about paying 40-50k for a bargain boat...probably 50-60k? when you really build one....?

It's relative, like when I tell my father what I paid for my truck... But I'm never buying a new towboat..... Laughing

FlyZone CR · Posted: Feb 27, 2014 7:48 pm Post subject:

Wow, that SAN... she's a beauty!

Yes flixmaster, Mastercraft is advertising their new NSX as "$50K all day long".
Indeed it's ridiculous that 50K is now considered cheap or "price-point".

Hey wait... are we talking boats here? Is that even allowed anymore?!

DRAGON88 · Posted: Feb 27, 2014 8:20 pm Post subject:

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eeven73 · Posted: Feb 28, 2014 8:09 am Post subject:

I had not really experienced the consolidation in other products dealers, I am sure it is happening. It will be real interesting when it unwinds. I can't imagine Malibu and Nautique are real thrilled with sharing a dealer, not to mention Supra/Moomba.

At the PDX boat show this year I noticed that they are making lines of PWC out of injection molding instead of fiberglass which allowed them to be priced in the 6K range. Thought that was an interesting development that I would imagine may make its way to a budget boat.

mgs917 · Addict Joined: 17 Sep 2008 Posts: 532 City: Spartanburg

Maybe the boat forum is dead because an entire conversation about boats just took place in the non wakeboarding forum.

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scott a · Ladies Man Joined: 13 Jan 2003 Posts: 9810

Nor*Cal, I think the competition will be good for both Wake Island and the new place, but I think cable parks are just expensive in general. OWC charges $1200 for a pass (though they are open for more than half the year...). Not that I'm lining up to ride at either one.

nmballa · Posted: Mar 01, 2014 10:14 am Post subject:

I would love to pick up another boat and get back in to riding but the cost of fuel has pretty much killed that. Spending 200-300 per trip to the lake is a killer.

FlyZone CR · Posted: Mar 01, 2014 12:39 pm Post subject:

Propane.
In the Netherlands (fuel prices probably triple or so from the US) you won't find an inboard without propane.

DRAGON88 · Posted: Mar 02, 2014 12:47 am Post subject:

ontrider · Ladies Man Joined: 30 Jul 2003 Posts: 16491 City: Russia

B5 S4 in Nogaro Blue still one of the best looking cars IMO Smile

jt09 · Ladies Man Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Posts: 22083 City: Austin

DRAGON88 · Posted: Mar 02, 2014 8:27 am Post subject:

RampageWake · Posted: Mar 02, 2014 12:49 pm Post subject:

Didn't you and your dad have a handful of Audi wagons you posted pics of one time?

DRAGON88 · Posted: Mar 02, 2014 1:02 pm Post subject:

Sadly, I am the sole wagon enthusiast in my family. I tried to talk him into a really clean S4 a month or so ago, but he wasn't interested. Confused

goofyboy · Posted: Mar 03, 2014 5:36 am Post subject:

since this kinda took a turn towards cars... we just picked this up for the wife:

goofyboy · Posted: Mar 03, 2014 5:38 am Post subject:

M sports package, but not the M engine. Very Happy

ohsix · Posted: Mar 03, 2014 6:42 am Post subject:

Not a new ride, but my DD is now much faster: