When you do an S-bend

Fredrick Eisenhauer · Posted: May 30, 2003 12:15 am Post subject: When you do an S-bend

When you do an S-bend you normaly spin clock wise (goofy) anti clock wise (regular) what if you span anti clock wise goofy would it be called something differant or is it still an S-bend?

Afro S Bend · Outlaw Joined: 13 Jan 2003 Posts: 106 City: Lake Worth, Fl

i figure it still be an s bend cause they dont call it counter clockwise s bend. im sure getting that rotation is a bitch though going at it goofy.

Krashr31 · Outlaw Joined: 07 Feb 2003 Posts: 238 City: Florida

No thats a lay-out R2Revert, a pretty easy trick.

Fredrick Eisenhauer · Posted: May 30, 2003 6:48 pm Post subject:

Afro S Bend, no its not dif doing them regular or goofy i think goofy is easier

DaWorD · Criminal Joined: 07 Feb 2003 Posts: 84

"When you do an S-bend you normaly spin clock wise (goofy) anti clock wise (regular) what if you span anti clock wise goofy would it be called something differant or is it still an S-bend?"

You've got your S-Bend rotations mixed up, its clockwise for a regular foot and anit-clock for a goofy footer.

Krashr31 · Outlaw Joined: 07 Feb 2003 Posts: 238 City: Florida

NO. If your Goofy foot you would spin clockwise for an s-bend. If you spin COUNTER-clockwise your doing a layed-out roll to revert.

DaWorD · Criminal Joined: 07 Feb 2003 Posts: 84

Umm no, a goofy footed sbend would be a counter-clockwise rotation. An sbend is a backside rotation, and to do a backside rotation for a goofy footer he would spin COUNTER-clockwise.

Krashr31 · Outlaw Joined: 07 Feb 2003 Posts: 238 City: Florida

The ONLY way that a goofy-footed rider spins counter-clockwise when doing an s-bend is if YOU are in the boat WATCHING them.

DaWorD · Criminal Joined: 07 Feb 2003 Posts: 84

I'm not talking about what way it looks like someone is spinning from different angles. A SBend for a goofy footed rider is phyiscally counter-clockwise. Stand up and act if you were going to do a backside 3 goofy footed. Which way would you spin? COUNTER-CLOCKWISE. And what do sbends and backside 3s have in common? THEY BOTH SPIN THE SAME DIRECTION....So kids what does that tell us? AN SBEND FOR A GOOFY FOOTED RIDER IS COUNTER-CLOCKWISE. Tommorrows lesson is learning the direction regular footers rotate on sbends.

DaWorD · Criminal Joined: 07 Feb 2003 Posts: 84

And just in case you dont know which way clocks spin. Here you go!

Krashr31 · Outlaw Joined: 07 Feb 2003 Posts: 238 City: Florida

If your standing directly under a person doing an s-bend as they are twirling around on their FEET, can you get a good look at their balls?

DaWorD · Criminal Joined: 07 Feb 2003 Posts: 84

Sucks to be wrong eh Krashr31?

Fredrick Eisenhauer · Posted: Jun 01, 2003 5:00 am Post subject:

An s-bend goofy is clock wise you been watching ppl from the boat doing them to much

Krashr31 · Outlaw Joined: 07 Feb 2003 Posts: 238 City: Florida

Jim M · Wakeboarder.com Freak Joined: 17 Jan 2003 Posts: 2933

A regular backside 360 spin is clockwise.
Lay it out, its still clockwise.
Therefore, a regular s-bend (raley w/ backside 360) is clockwise, yes?????

It doesn't matter if you are in the boat, in an airplane, or at the bottom of the lake, its still a clockwise rotation. So what part of that is confusing?

Jim M · Wakeboarder.com Freak Joined: 17 Jan 2003 Posts: 2933

But hey it would be conter-clockwise if you were driving the boat looking at the rider through the mirror! Maybe thats where all the confusion lies, the believers in the counter-clockwise s-bend are just avid boat drivers!

Fredrick Eisenhauer · Posted: Jun 01, 2003 7:30 am Post subject:

They dont really specify which way u do the 360 weather its fs or bs but looking back from the boat looking at an s-bend it is opposite to the rider spinning, and every vid ive seen of an s-bend the person has spun clock wise when they were goofy some where on here theres a vid of darin shapiro doing a grabbed vulcan and its switch (goofy) and he spind clock wise even tough from the boat it looks like he spinds anti clock wise

Jim M · Wakeboarder.com Freak Joined: 17 Jan 2003 Posts: 2933

Who are 'they'?

A S-bend is a backside spin. A vulcan is a s-bend with a frontside revert on the way down.

Fredrick Eisenhauer · Posted: Jun 01, 2003 8:05 am Post subject:

They are the ppl on the vid i watched countless number of times-higher ed,yes but they are started the same way and are still done clock wise and like u said when ur comign down u do a fs 180

Jim M · Wakeboarder.com Freak Joined: 17 Jan 2003 Posts: 2933

I quit.

SB_Boarder · Posted: Jun 01, 2003 4:34 pm Post subject:

The spin for a blind three is definately counter clockwise. I do blind/backside 3's all the time and my head turn to my left. And i let go with my left hand and pass the rope with my right. Therefore this spin is counter clockwise, as the hands on the clock move to the right. However if you are looking at a person doing an S-bend from the backor side, when they tuck their head under their left armpit, and spin to the left it would look clockwise, even though it is the same direction of spin. Because an s-bend changes the plane of the board, now as a spectator you are seeing the bottom of the board instead of the top. Yet if you are the rider looking straight down at your feet while doing an s-bend it will look exactly like a blind 3 making it counter clockwise. You guys are arguing about two different view points of the spin. A spectator WILL see it diferently than the rider does.

Jim M · Wakeboarder.com Freak Joined: 17 Jan 2003 Posts: 2933

ok I was just rehired--

Raidersftball181- just making sure things are clear, if you ride regular and spin to the left of the line (counter-clockwise), that is a frontside spin. yes? And there is no 'blind' involved on a backside 3.

HERES THE DEAL- A regular backside spin is clockwise. A goofy backside spin is counter-clockwise. Apply this to ANY trick with a backside spin (s-bend, whirlybird, etc...) and you have your spin direction. Like I said the only thing that would change the 'points of view' is seeing it through a mirror to reverse it.

Even if you were behind the rider and he throws a s-bend, it would appear counter from looking at the bottom of his board but the trick itself is still clockwise, if you ask me thats all that matters.

Fredrick Eisenhauer · Posted: Jun 01, 2003 5:41 pm Post subject:

OK well with goofy from my point ov view ill spin clock wise and thats how ill do it so u do what u think is right and itll all b good

DaWorD · Criminal Joined: 07 Feb 2003 Posts: 84

Wow vip20882000 you just dont give up. Three people just proved that a goofy sbend is counter-clock and yet you still seem to think you are right. Well have fun eating stuff trying to spin an sbend the wrong way!

Fredrick Eisenhauer · Posted: Jun 01, 2003 6:22 pm Post subject:

You havnt really proved me wrong you just keep saying what you say before when i see a vid of one next and if it is done like you said ill take it all back mkk? any w ay the point of the post was to see what the trick would be if done the other way

DaWorD · Criminal Joined: 07 Feb 2003 Posts: 84

I really dont see how you can think we havent proved you wrong, but oh well I'm tired of trying to get through to you. To answer your original question, if you spin the opposite way of a normal sbend it would just be a layed out backroll which I believe someone already said.

Fredrick Eisenhauer · Posted: Jun 01, 2003 7:00 pm Post subject:

aight then

BigTimer · Posted: Jun 02, 2003 9:10 am Post subject:

It really isn't that complicated VIP. A regular S-Bend is rotated Clockwise. Da Word is right.

Fredrick Eisenhauer · Posted: Jun 02, 2003 10:52 pm Post subject:

Yeah and a gooft s-bend is done clock wise to... i watched them on higher ed. unless there doing them wrong???

Jim M · Wakeboarder.com Freak Joined: 17 Jan 2003 Posts: 2933

I know you drive on the opposite side of the street as me but surely your clock rotates the same way Very Happy

I drew a picture of a goofy s-bend, please let me know if it clears things up to make me feel better. It is a BACKSIDE spin, hence the rider spins counter-clockwise. The second picture is a regular s-bend, still a backside spin, which makes it a clockwise rotation.

Fredrick Eisenhauer · Posted: Jun 03, 2003 10:42 pm Post subject:

Aight that looks cool... but 1 thing when i see the s-bends done by other goofy people they tuck there head into there right shoulder or arm pit and when i do this rotation i do clockwise and its still a bs spin and it even looks bs thats wat im going off and remember those are the view off the boat not the riders perspective

DaWorD · Criminal Joined: 07 Feb 2003 Posts: 84

Does it ever end? Puppy Eyes

Fredrick Eisenhauer · Posted: Jun 03, 2003 10:48 pm Post subject:

You could choose 2 ignore it DaWorD, how ever im very stuborn as youve seen

DaWorD · Criminal Joined: 07 Feb 2003 Posts: 84

I'd use a different word than stuborn to describe you, its starts with the same first 3 letters though.

Fredrick Eisenhauer · Posted: Jun 03, 2003 11:32 pm Post subject:

You asked is this ever ends Puppy Eyes

for sum1 who doesnt like fighting or wat eva u seem 2 be heading on the right pathJim M, sry 4 stealing ur idea abt that pic but i decided to draw a pic this time from the riders view the pic looks a bit junky but thats not the point