Saddam has 48 hours to leave Iraq or military conflict.

Rocko

Looks like we're in the final stages of going to war. Who is feeling what?

Dragonlady8 · Guest

I had a feeling something was up....good friend is in Special Operations for the Navy. Usually we email each other once a week or he respnds to me within 48hr. I haven't heard from him in almost 2wks. I know he was in Hawaii last week for inspections.
Let's hope that it is quick and swift with minimal casualties. Support & Unity needs to start on the home front. Neutral

ohsix · Posted: Mar 17, 2003 5:39 pm Post subject:

Rocko · Posted: Mar 17, 2003 5:41 pm Post subject:

you said it perfect phnatom.

akirachan · Criminal Joined: 11 Feb 2003 Posts: 61

srry, i was typing while yours came up
you can ignore it i guess

Nor*Cal · Ladies Man Joined: 12 Jan 2003 Posts: 9479 City: Sac

I bet that the Air Force begins taking things out tomorrow. Military targets on the border. I'm not excited about war but I knew this was going to happen when Bush went to the Azores (sp?).

Aubs · Motorboat Queen Joined: 12 Jan 2003 Posts: 9167

my best friend's older brother is being deployed from japan in the next few days - he's in the marines... he hasn't found out where they're sending him yet

Ryan_m · Addict Joined: 12 Jan 2003 Posts: 653 City: glen ellyn

why do they want saddam to leave iraq....... if he leaves chances are we dont know were he is going to go there fore we cant take him out.

Jello John · Wakeboarder.Commie Joined: 12 Jan 2003 Posts: 1936

Rocko · Posted: Mar 17, 2003 6:56 pm Post subject:

but i think ryan really wants to catch Saddam and cut his nuts off.

BoardC3 · Soul Rider Joined: 28 Jan 2003 Posts: 380 City: Ithaca, NY

Im scared for the US because almost half of the people in the country dont support the war which makes our side not nearly as strong. We know he has weapons and hes insane so hes not afraid to use them, I think that this is going to really be a horrible thing. I also think that it is very neccesary and i am for it but i cant stand people that dont support it, because supporting it is supporting our country. We had a protest against the war a week or two ago and there were probably about 700 people protesting against war and about 50 for it, but then again i live in Ithaca (the hippy democratic town of the world)

Ryan_m · Addict Joined: 12 Jan 2003 Posts: 653 City: glen ellyn

Dragonlady8 · Guest

the ultimatium includes Saddam and his sons

Nor*Cal · Ladies Man Joined: 12 Jan 2003 Posts: 9479 City: Sac

BoardC3- I'm glad you see the importance of unity. I think the liberal media and cowardice of our allies has created waning support for this war. I hope that the US military is swift and effective in the opening strikes this week. From what I've read tonight they are allowing the UN inspectors time to exit so American strikes won't happen until after that.

I saw something on TV this weekend with some famous Hollywood director/producer who was totally against the first Gulf War. He was supporting this action and condemned all Hollywood Jews who didn't see the threat of Saddam to Israel. He claimed that Hollywood's Jewish community should fully support this action because of the threar of Iraq and muslim terrorism to the Israel. I'll try to find out who this guy is...

Jello John · Wakeboarder.Commie Joined: 12 Jan 2003 Posts: 1936

Nor*Cal · Ladies Man Joined: 12 Jan 2003 Posts: 9479 City: Sac

CNN reported a poll that 68% of Americans think that diplomatic efforts have been exhausted. That poll was taken today and previously in Feb it was around 54%. So American support is increasing.

Cruel World · Criminal Joined: 13 Jan 2003 Posts: 55 City: Waterford, MI

Fox News ran a poll claiming 2 to 1 Americans support this war. All polls are going to vary a bit, war is never a popular choice.

Let's just hope this is the beginning of the end.

quigglymaster · Posted: Mar 17, 2003 8:52 pm Post subject:

man bush's speach was blunt. calling them thugs and what not. it was good though. he was calm the whole way through.

Josh R · Posted: Mar 17, 2003 8:54 pm Post subject:

Who's to say he's still in the country anyway?

DRAGON88 · Posted: Mar 17, 2003 9:03 pm Post subject:

BoardC3 if more than half of the people in america dont support that means that the majority dont suport the war and the majority make up the country so maybe the us doesn't suport the war...just some thing to think about. i do aggree that we need to go in and secure the area. My question is why the F- are we woried about saddam? i think that n-korea is the real current threat...

Nor*Cal · Ladies Man Joined: 12 Jan 2003 Posts: 9479 City: Sac

North Korea is not an immediate threat right now. I was reading about it today.

The UN resolution was made as part of the cease fire after the original Gulf War. Saddam failed to follow the treaty knowing that the UN would not enforce it. As Bush said there is no time for appeasement. It's time to finish what we started.

pedro · Posted: Mar 17, 2003 9:46 pm Post subject:

Saddam leaving Iraq ?

Well - he can't come to stay with me.

What about all the dudes that were trying to get Shaun Murray to stay with them - will they make the same offer to Saddam. I think he can snowboard.

BillJ · Posted: Mar 17, 2003 11:19 pm Post subject:

Saddam's English word of the day:

Incoming!

I'm disappointed, but not surprised, that it has come down to this. I was hoping that the huge military build up over the last few months would be enough to convince Saddam that we were serious and force him to comply with the UN resolutions. I do believe that the UN has been completely ineffective in dealing with Iraq since they are treating it like a spoiled child "stop it or next time I'm going to punish you" only next time never seems to come.

Now my hope is that the war is over quickly with as few casualties as possible on both sides. I definitely feel that we have such an incredible military superiority that it should be over quickly unless it comes down to urban warfare in Baghdad. My hope is the the Iraqi military and civilians will rally around the US before that happens.

criminally_minded · Posted: Mar 17, 2003 11:22 pm Post subject:

Wow - George W bush is such a cool guy, he is so good to us Aussies! Imagine, after years of the US sticking it to our farmers on the free trade agreement (because we offer a superior product at a lower price), old Dubya has rewarded his lapdog Johnny Howard for sending our youth off to fight, by finally agreeing to DO WHAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN DONE FROM THE START and allow free trade. How big of you George, all we have to do is let a few of our kids die and you will give us the price we deserve for our beef? Yahoo! Throw us another treat George! Maybe our farmers will fly the old starz an' stripes over their houses!

I am absolutly disgusted, ashamed and EMBARASSED to be an Aussie at this point, firstly because our elected (I sure as hell didn't vote for the pr*ck) leader is a gutless follower who won't listen to his people, and secondly, because it has become PAINFULLY obvious the rest of the world thinks we are so easily bought and sold.

I would tell George to kiss my as*e, but that may offend some people on this board, so instead I will say 'FU*K YOU JOHNNY YOU SHORT LITTLE PR*CK' for letting this happen. Mad

BillJ · Posted: Mar 17, 2003 11:25 pm Post subject:

CM, I don't think the rest of the world is paying much attention to AUS right about now.

criminally_minded · Posted: Mar 17, 2003 11:37 pm Post subject:

Yeah who cares that we are going to war as well, ain't no thing.

Rocko · Posted: Mar 17, 2003 11:58 pm Post subject:

CM, I don't know exactly what to say to that but I respect it.

Josh R · Posted: Mar 18, 2003 12:00 am Post subject:

Bill, I don't think the US is paying much attention to the rest of the world right about now.

criminally_minded · Posted: Mar 18, 2003 12:04 am Post subject:

Rocko:

Thanks bro, trust me, there is no anti-American sentiment in it. Very Happy

If we go to war with/for you guys, we don't need a payoff like that. Thats all I wanted to say.

Cheers guys.

nick e[V]ans · Posted: Mar 18, 2003 12:23 am Post subject:

yeh i agree with the other aussie guys, some people in australia are all for it, but what the hell do we have to do with israel and america, america ok we do have a fair bit to do with them. but i dont think we really give a sh*t about saddam Bubb Rubb. john howard needs to grow some balls and say no to george bush
nick

Nor*Cal · Ladies Man Joined: 12 Jan 2003 Posts: 9479 City: Sac

To the Australians- The USA is enforcing the terms set force by an organization that does not have what it takes to enforce it's own treaties. The UN is just as gutless as the League of Nations formed after WW1. If you draft a treaty you better be able to make sure both sides live up to the terms. Saddam has been skirting the issue at hand and the cowardly members of the UN are willing to allow this. The USA has learned it's history lessons and will not accept appeasement.

How could you not care about a man who is a threat like Saddam. You've had a taste of terrorism. Remember politics are a system and thus everything has an effect on everyone. The USA is eliminating a threat and keeping true to the treaty that was originally drafted.

The United States has already imposed trade sanctions on Canada for not supporting us in this conflict. I'm sure all the other non-supporters will also recieve sanctions. Australia is doing what is best for them.

I didn't realize we actually needed to import cattle.

Jeremy Coe · Soul Rider Joined: 27 Feb 2003 Posts: 408 City: Auckland

criminally_minded · Posted: Mar 18, 2003 2:38 am Post subject:

Nor*Cal: Where did I say I didn't care about the threat from Saddam?

Do I think America should declare war? No. Is that my decision to make? Probably not. But what happens to MY country IS my decision as a voter, as it is all Australians decision, and our Prime Minister is NOT LISTENING to the majority of his people.

Please re-read my post. Mainly I was (I am) p*ssed about Bush's little 'Theres a good dog' act of offering to place a FTA in place, as a reward for following blindly after him. I'm not a farmer, I'm not too worried about wether or not our farmers can sell cattle to the US fairly or not (as the worlds biggest cattle exporter, we aren't exactly struggeling), but I don't like this 'rewards' system one little bit.

For reference - check this (American) site on the FTA, it gives a few ideas why the US would be a big market for Australian beef. http://www.montanacattlemen.org/fta_with_australia.htm

Josh R · Posted: Mar 18, 2003 2:44 am Post subject:

Just like to say that Nick doesn't speak for me (No offence Nick, btw). I and I'm sure many other Australians DO care greatly about middle east relations.

International relations are just a big game of chess, but 100 times more complex. Every country must look after it's main interests, both domestically and internationaly. And every country puts different interests above others.

I think the Howard government has played this from its typical view. Putting the ecconomic and defense interests above all else, instead of focusing on what some would say is our 'social responsibility' along with many other things.

I also think it is a little weak to follow so the Bush administration so quickly and easily though. It's obvious that we followed blindly and did not realise some of the repercussions.

And yes, you DO need our cattle... Wink

*THE RAMBLING IS OVER*

OttoNP · Addict Joined: 13 Jan 2003 Posts: 848 City: MI

I haven't been able to verify that we have imposed trade sanctions on Canada or any other country for not supporting us in this conflict, anyone have a link?
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