Which is sangers premier boat?

DJew Jake · Posted: Sep 21, 2004 11:01 pm Post subject: Which is sangers premier boat?

the v210 or v215? which is their full out boarding boat , i know "both are" but the same way the 210 is better then the 211 nautique.

which throws the naturally bigger steeper wake the 210 or 215.

Im looking at sanger and moomba as a new boat for 2005.

wakedad1 · Addict Joined: 19 Sep 2003 Posts: 667 City: Discovery Bay

My friend has a Sanger dlx wake edition, it has the same hull as the v210 but its a direct drive. I think most people that have ridden behind it are extremely pleased with the size and shape of the wake. This is definately an under-rated boat for the price it has a wake that is compareable to the top three ( SAN, MC, BU ). You can get the dlx loaded for around 30k and the v210 for a few k more. I have not been behind the v215 yet but i hear it has a wide wake???

ripvanbl · Posted: Sep 22, 2004 7:34 am Post subject:

The v215 does have a wide wake (96" beam), but it isn't that bad. I just bought the v215 over the v210 because my wife and I liked the flat sunpad, higher freeboard, better seat to floor ratio and storage space (obviously all of these things are because it is a bigger boat). That said, I think the v210 might be a better wakeboard specific boat, but the v215 is definatley no slouch. It responds very well to weight and is easy to steer even with the weight.

DJew Jake · Posted: Sep 22, 2004 10:03 am Post subject:

flat sunpad? whats wrong with the 210s? the sanger website sucks...

chavez · RIP MHL 04/25/1958 - 01/11/2006

The 210 can have a flat sunpad if you opt for the Black Scorpion motor IIRC.

The 210 throws a steeper wake (note - not larger, just steeper).

I would say the 210 is their "all out wb boat" but the 215 is also an "all out wb boat" with more room.

I can honestly say the 215 is the best wake I have ever ridden. (OPINION!)

I am a huge fan of both, they would be on my potential purchase list above all others, with 'Bu second, Calabria third.

HyperRash · Posted: Sep 22, 2004 4:33 pm Post subject:

I have the snager v215 It has a perfect wake without ballest I think the sanger 215 is the best wake Ive ever ridden

Ralph · Posted: Sep 22, 2004 5:17 pm Post subject:

The 210 has a humped rear pad. It looks groovey imo but some people don't like it. Merc has stopped making the 330 scorp so the flat pad is no longer an option for the 210.

boardstiff · Soul Rider Joined: 02 Jan 2004 Posts: 264 City: Canada

aFramer...Do you know of any Sanger dealers in Ontario? I emailed them and they didn't reply.

DJew Jake · Posted: Sep 23, 2004 7:02 am Post subject:

No i havent looked for dealers yet im gona be doin this through the boat show prolly, sanger freeboard seems really low....

khoekz16 · Posted: Sep 23, 2004 9:21 am Post subject:

wait a minute, is it true that the dlx can be had for 30k out the door? is this a good boat? why is it so cheap? does it have ballast system, tower, etc? let me know boys

are there any dealers in the midwest (ie - michigan) ???

Duramax Dually · Posted: Sep 23, 2004 9:35 am Post subject:

Both are excellent. Chavez covered it. We liked the V210 over the V215 primarily for the financial difference. We usually only have 4-5 people out on the boat with us, storage(which both boats have a ton of BTW) and space was not a concern. We liked the little humped sunpad area as the water drained off very fast. We have the V210 WS with the front ballast option and it generates an excellent wake. My wife liked the steering feel and throttle response of the V210 over the V215. We test drove both models along with a variety of other boats(Mailbu, Moomba and Tige)

DJew Jake · Posted: Sep 23, 2004 9:40 am Post subject:

I repeat can someone confirm that sanger has the lowest freeboard i have ever seen?

Duramax Dually · Posted: Sep 23, 2004 9:43 am Post subject:

Well not the afficiondo here by any means, but it does sit lower in the water than any other boat I have ever seen or been in. Some early Ski Nautiques had low freeboard
I personally think it looks great in the water.

K-dub · Ladies Man Joined: 12 Jan 2003 Posts: 14760

eeven73 · Posted: Sep 23, 2004 10:18 am Post subject:

The 210 definatly has a low freeboard. This is because of its heritage, before there really were "wakeboard" boats. Compare it to ski boats of the 80's and 90's prostar 190's, responses etc. and you will get a feel that its low profile was very common in boats designed around the same time.

K-dub · Ladies Man Joined: 12 Jan 2003 Posts: 14760

Sanger's heritage is actually in making low profile drag boats, or "hot boats"...then they got into making ski boats.

wakedad1 · Addict Joined: 19 Sep 2003 Posts: 667 City: Discovery Bay

khoekz16, Yes you can get a Sanger dlx for around 30k with ballast and tower. Only problem is you have to come out west to get it.

chavez · RIP MHL 04/25/1958 - 01/11/2006

wakedad1 · Addict Joined: 19 Sep 2003 Posts: 667 City: Discovery Bay

There's actually a cool pic of an old sanger drag boat in an issue of wbm I'm not sure which issue though.

eeven73 · Posted: Sep 23, 2004 11:18 am Post subject:

DJew Jake · Posted: Sep 23, 2004 3:56 pm Post subject:

I cant handle that freeboard being so low its outa the question i usualy run 3000+lbs in my boats and that boa will be like 2 inches outa the water...

K-dub · Ladies Man Joined: 12 Jan 2003 Posts: 14760

aFramer, that's the thing though...you dont need 3000 pounds in the boat with a Sanger from my experience...maybe half of that at most, and the wake is very good.

chavez · RIP MHL 04/25/1958 - 01/11/2006

K-dub <-- is correct. You MIGHT want to put 1500 in the boat, but I think that you will find that the 210 is more than adequate with 1000 or so.

We had the 215 loaded down a few weeks back with factory weight (1100), full gas tank (45? gal), and 10 people (& gear etc.). Simply put, the wake was nuts.

Nor*Cal · Ladies Man Joined: 12 Jan 2003 Posts: 9479 City: Sac

K-dub · Ladies Man Joined: 12 Jan 2003 Posts: 14760

chavez, I bet it was...I remember one time last summer, we had a v-210 loaded to the gills...I think right around 2000#, plus 7-8 people. The wake was a damn monster. It took me a while to get used to getting booted every time. It was almost like hitting a D-up every time you hit the wake. Speaking of Double Ups, i'd have to say that my favorite of all time is behind that same sanger...cutting into that thing is intimidating.

chavez · RIP MHL 04/25/1958 - 01/11/2006

K-dub, it's pretty crazy - I'm not intimidated because I know beforehand I am going to wreck hard, so I just go with it!

The oops 3 to buttplant is a cool trick. I am going to work on my oops inverts next! Laughing

K-dub · Ladies Man Joined: 12 Jan 2003 Posts: 14760

LOL Chavez...I can see it clearly.

here's a pic. of Rich Facciano hitting a D-Up behind a V-210 on Old River..Dirty Delta style

Ralph · Posted: Sep 23, 2004 4:41 pm Post subject:

SICK PIC K-dub!!!!
#1800 + 11 is the most weight we had in ours. When the rider cut in to the double up all you could see was his head as he dropped into the trough. That was a fun weekend.
The V210 is a jandle with a V-8 in the back, that being said it is suprisingly dry, we never take wakes over the back, only over the front if your not paying attention.

DJew Jake · Posted: Sep 23, 2004 4:55 pm Post subject:

how in gods name does it pump such a big wake musta been a terible skiboat Razz

onthewater · Posted: Sep 23, 2004 5:16 pm Post subject:

it is not a ski boat

Ralph · Posted: Sep 23, 2004 5:22 pm Post subject:

Not being a swerver my self I haven't tried it but I'm sure it sucks poop.

DJew Jake · Posted: Sep 24, 2004 12:22 am Post subject:

onthewater, It started as a ski boat no manu designed wake specific hulls, they r all the second rate ski hulls.

Ralph · Posted: Sep 24, 2004 12:56 am Post subject:

Imagine Sangers glee when wakeboarding becomes popular, there crappy ski hull becomes a world class wakemaker. Pretty sure there DXII is an excellent 3 event and barefoot boat tho.

Duramax Dually · Posted: Sep 24, 2004 5:19 am Post subject:

Skiing behind the V210 is easy, Just use a 150 ft rope to get clear of the wake... Laughing

Stephan · Guest

I agree with all said, the wake is surprisingly easy to build. This is because it's narrow hull design & semi-V entry allows it to settle deep into the water with little effort. Have you guys ever emptied all the sacs & with only yourself gone hauling ass around the lake? That thing handles like a sportscar. Hard turns are fun in that thing as it barely leans.