2 1080s at Slider Spectacular

tarb24ve · Newbie Joined: 13 Oct 2006 Posts: 15 City: Indianapolis

Two 1080s were landed at the OWC Slider Spectacular by Julian Cohen and Robin Friday. They where off the kicker. Julian Cohens didn't officially count because it was started early but Robin Fridays did. There is video at wakeboardingmag.com

Firdays was started way after he left, it was huge.

midwest wake · Addict Joined: 13 Oct 2003 Posts: 629 City: Middleton

not ragging on either of them, but does anyone else think that these 1080s don't really count?

as insane as it is (i completly respect the abality to ride that well) i just don't see them as "official" 1080s.

i mean our sport is WAKEboarding.

i think this goes down as two Cable wakeboarding tens, not wakeboarding.

YELLOWMOBIUS · Addict Joined: 25 Apr 2004 Posts: 776 City: da region

yea i agree, the force of being pulled is a lot different

OuachitaWaker · Addict Joined: 16 Sep 2006 Posts: 577 City: Hot Springs

ya ide like to see them hit 1080s off a double up.

Also, i wonder what kinda stuff harf or parks could throw off a kicker? 1260's anyone?

03Belmont · Wakeboarder.com Freak Joined: 19 Aug 2003 Posts: 4656

i see this as awesome but i dont see this as a true 1080. Its not off the wake its off a kicker... that kicker is alot better and the pop is alot better from the kicker than you get from a wake

devon · Posted: Oct 16, 2006 1:56 pm Post subject:

they are the first 1080s landed at a cable park. i have never been to a cable park but you ccan see from the videos it has a different pull and parks could land a 1080 off one of those kickers at owc easily well before his knee injury
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scott a · Ladies Man Joined: 13 Jan 2003 Posts: 9810

Robin Friday rips, and I'm sure if he really dedicated himself he could land a 1080 behind a boat. The guy was spinnin like a top when I shot his sister out in FL.

RC · Addict Joined: 10 Sep 2006 Posts: 771 City: Tuscaloosa

i dont care whether it was off a kicker or not, a 1080 is still sick especially the fact that it was done by amatuer riders (i think..not quite sure, only heard of cohen and i dont think hes considered pro..) yeh the pull is different and yeh a kicker gives more pop but they were the firsts to do it this way.

nobody has flamed yet but everyone knows its coming so just have respect for the people that are pushing the sport and be glad that the 1080 does seem to be becoming more common. i know it pushes me to ride harder.

Ive been in germny fro 2 weeks and im dying to ride now. i can do all the inverts and raley based tricks but ive never taken the time to get passed a 360 on spinning. (dont flame me for bragging, i was pointing out a flaw in myself) now im pumped and jus want to ride. thats what wakeboarding is about, getting pumped and the want to ride and the love for the sport itself. it was disgusted when i read the 1080 thread on Rusty and people were saying it was nuthin special...but i guess i got out all i wanted to say.

thats my rant, peace.

Josh R · Posted: Oct 16, 2006 2:34 pm Post subject:

*This kinda turned into a general rant, and isn't really directed at specific people in this thread*

Not calling them 'true' 1080's, or saying they don't count at all is pretty stupid. They rotated 1080 degree's, feel free to point out the unthuth's involved in the trick. They certainly are different to a 1080 off the d-up, and on a lower level of difficulty, but not by a great deal. It sure as f**k isn't easy.

Hilarious to think that people actually believe Parks or Harf could just rock up to a cable park and throws twelves off a regular line, as though theres a different kind of gravity that effects those little plots of earth. Reality check people, the 10 is a hard trick no matter which way you look at it. And the trick involves some amazing body mechanics, whether it's thrown off a kicker, a d-up or across a slider.

I think it either says a lot about the maturity of members on here, or shows what sort of strange reality people are living in when something like a 1080 on a frickin wakeboard has already become passe'

As a footnote, I'd also like to add that cable has become very progressive over here in the last couple of years, with everything becoming very wake orientated, ie. very stylish and only focused on kickers and rails.

midwest wake · Addict Joined: 13 Oct 2003 Posts: 629 City: Middleton

Josh R, i can understand that they are very impressive. and i know that it's very hard. (not landed either, but can spin seven on cable off kickers pretty easy, but behind a boat usually just come up short.)

i guess what i'm saying is that when i think cable, i don't think that they count as much as boat (as you saw, julian started spinning on the kicker (and i know they didn't coun't it)).

*one of the coaches at a TWC a few years ago was sticking ts double backrolls of a kicker and popping the handle, but couldn't get close behind boat (off double up). it's just different all around*

I'd just rather watch and ride boat than cable. But yes, in no way is this not progression, and sick regardless.

*added*

03Belmont · Wakeboarder.com Freak Joined: 19 Aug 2003 Posts: 4656

I perfer riding rails and cable over the boat but we dont have a cable park around so i travel down to orlando as much as I can. I just dont see this as being as hard as a 1080 behind the boat. Its still amazing but not as much so.

I wouldnt dought it if both of these guys have been sticking these for a while off the kicker.... And I forgot who it what but there was talk of someone Hitting a 1080 off the kicker at TSR acouple years ago.

LFADAM · Posted: Oct 16, 2006 3:35 pm Post subject:

Thats pretty sweet, just one notch below a boat 1080 IMO.

Quick Q: In the May 2005 issue of WBM, in the "1080:hardest trick in wakeboarding, who is next?", Mike Ferraro says that one day a while back, Mark Kenney came to OWC and landed 2 1080s in one day and acted like it was no big deal. Ive never been to OWC but I think they have a boat there too. Were his 2 1080s there kicker or boat? (I know anyone who knows him says he was landing 1080s behind the boat, but Ive seen video of him landing a 9 off a kicker no sweat)

03Belmont · Wakeboarder.com Freak Joined: 19 Aug 2003 Posts: 4656

Mark was who i was thinking of... Im pretty sure they were off the kicker. There was rumor that he landed them off the double up also i belive. No dought if he were still here today he woould be throwing them left and right

jlaws · Addict Joined: 16 Sep 2006 Posts: 832 City: NC

Cool for them, i just want to see them do it behind a boat Razz

but it's still a pretty nasty trick eitherway you look at it

Justin 25 · Addict Joined: 29 Aug 2006 Posts: 797

Josh R, it's an amazing trick no matter what it's thrown off of. But i think a true 1080 should be thrown behind a boat rather than behind a kicker. Julian Cohen and Robin Friday are amazing riders, but i just don't think it should count as a true 1080.

JV · Posted: Oct 17, 2006 11:52 am Post subject:

pooser · Wakeboarder.com Freak Joined: 13 Jan 2003 Posts: 4738

it doesnt count? wtf. sure theyre different, maybe there not as hard but thats like saying someones 9 doesnt count cuz it was off axis and that made it easier. its just different thats all

Craig-R · Guest

robin friday from what it looked like in the video wasn't spinning nearly as fast as danny harf was on his 1080

sick nonetheless

craiger · Soul Rider Joined: 03 Feb 2003 Posts: 498 City: Plano

a 1080 is a 1080 is a 1080...

If it's not a "true" 1080, then what the hell are you going to call it? an "almost" 1080? A "asterik" 1080?? He still rotates the board 1080 degrees, and still has to pass the handle 5 times or so...

jb · Criminal Joined: 22 Jan 2003 Posts: 83

Yeah, it's a 1080, but come on, it's not at all as cool as one behnd the boat. I mean, if I do a bunny hop backside 180 out in the flats and claimed that it was as cool or the same thing as a wake to wake bs 180, yeah, the board rotated the same way, but one is way more respectable and bad ass for sure. What would you guys say if someone came on here and said I just learned tantrums! Sweet! Oh, by the way I land between the wakes. You would doo doo all over this guy's parade, and rightfully so. Yes it's still a tantrum, but it's a pretty dumb tantrum. Does this make any sense?

By the way, get over the whole Mark Kenny thing; he did a few 1080's. I can't understand why people are still debating whether or not he did them or not. I guess his sources aren't reliable enough.

I freakin hate 1080's now. The internet has ruined the whole trick for me.

aceofdymondz · Posted: Oct 17, 2006 4:07 pm Post subject:

yeah i'd have to agree withmidwest wake, these were cable 1080s not wake 1080s but still pretty awesome... i love how it was on a ronix kicker too hah ronix must be lovin' all the 1080 advertising...

Tyler~Moore · Posted: Oct 17, 2006 4:45 pm Post subject:

those two guys rotated 1080 degrees just like Parks, Danny, and Rusty. Sure it was off a kicker on a cable park. But be stoked for these guys... thats 3 complete rotations... hard whether it's behind a boat or on a cable...

jb · Criminal Joined: 22 Jan 2003 Posts: 83

Why do dudes always insist on posting the exact same thing and making the exact same point that a ton of other dudes have already made in a thread?

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devon · Posted: Oct 18, 2006 6:24 am Post subject:

is robin friday dallsa fridays brother
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Phil · Addict Joined: 14 Jan 2003 Posts: 636 City: Chattanooga

Yes Robin is Dallas's brother. I just saw a sequence of Julians on his myspace and he really doesnt do a 1080, he spins like more than 180 on the kicker. So more like a b/s 9 but still cool.