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gene3x Addict


Joined: 31 Aug 2004 Posts: 759 City: Dallas
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Posted: Aug 18, 2006 6:51 pm Post subject: The most durable binding, period? |
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What is the most durable binding out there? Damn the comfort.
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bigwake77 Newbie

Joined: 16 Apr 2006 Posts: 47
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Posted: Aug 20, 2006 11:23 am Post subject: |
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ive had a pair of LF ultra suctions i've been using for 6 years now. they've held up extremely well
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Ediktid Chick Criminal

Joined: 19 Aug 2005 Posts: 50 City: Sacramento
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Posted: Aug 20, 2006 12:19 pm Post subject: |
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| i've been using liquid force bindings for years and never had any problems with them... and they're comfortable... but maybe that's just my good luck?
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Joined: 31 Aug 2004 Posts: 759 City: Dallas
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Posted: Aug 20, 2006 1:46 pm Post subject: |
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I am extremely hard on equipment since I weigh 225 and always try to go as big as possible. I have ripped several sets of bindings and was wondering what held up best over time as well. Thanks.
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pooser Wakeboarder.com Freak

Joined: 13 Jan 2003 Posts: 4738
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Posted: Aug 20, 2006 7:23 pm Post subject: |
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| every pair of bindings is gonna rip or break in some way eventually. i think that bindings with the least different parts are gonna be the most durable as in bindings without laces, boa, straps etc. these seem to be the parts that break most often. also go for bindings that arent super tight. the tighter they are the more likely they are to tear.
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Joined: 20 Jul 2006 Posts: 3182 City: Orlando, FL
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Posted: Aug 21, 2006 1:28 am Post subject: |
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2003 Hyperlite Belmonts, only had the overlays replaced once because of user error. Besdies that one time they have held up great and are pretty damn comfy. The 2002 yellow ultra suctions with the 03 overlays have held up extremly well also.
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pooser Wakeboarder.com Freak

Joined: 13 Jan 2003 Posts: 4738
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Posted: Aug 21, 2006 9:05 am Post subject: |
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| i had the 03 belmonts. wasnt so happy with them. they were pretty comfy. not as comfy as the new bindings. I ripped both overlays out and the toe piece of one binding out, but other than that they were great. oh and i think the little claw teeth got wron down when my bolt loosened and the binding shifted. I hate to be a negative nancy but for everyone who has a positive experience with a binding htere are two more who had a negatie experience.
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bmartin Addict

Joined: 05 Feb 2003 Posts: 794
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Posted: Aug 21, 2006 9:12 am Post subject: |
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| The older NICE bindings are pretty darn near indestructible.
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LakeIolaLuke Wakeboarder.com Freak


Joined: 10 Jul 2006 Posts: 3064 City: Lake Iola/Orlando
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Posted: Aug 21, 2006 9:26 am Post subject: |
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just get some older hyperlites, like highbacks or 30-60's. They're all foam and rubber, and anything that tears on them can be replaced for cheap.
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steve-o Outlaw

Joined: 15 Apr 2003 Posts: 181 City: Toronto, Canada
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Posted: Aug 21, 2006 11:49 am Post subject: |
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it doesn't seem like the newer bindings are nearly as durable as the older style ones.
case and point... my girlfriend got the LF minx 2 months ago and the "inner padded cuff" has worn so badly they've torn.
seems pretty silly to me
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gene3x Addict


Joined: 31 Aug 2004 Posts: 759 City: Dallas
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Posted: Aug 21, 2006 12:10 pm Post subject: |
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Has anyone had 04 or 05 Alpha's tear or become unridable? It seems those are actually pretty tough for some reason.
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pooser Wakeboarder.com Freak

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Posted: Aug 21, 2006 12:33 pm Post subject: |
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| steve-o, the new bindings are definitely seem to be more prone to breakage. this does not mean the older bindings dont break but with all the new parts and features there are more things to break.
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Joined: 25 Aug 2003 Posts: 5283 City: New York City
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Roger Outlaw

Joined: 16 Aug 2005 Posts: 145 City: Dallas
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Posted: Aug 21, 2006 1:46 pm Post subject: |
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| I really liked the look of the 05 Alpha's with the fixed plates. They just looked simpler and stronger. Nothing fancy or anything extra to break. Unfortunatly, the only new 05' Alpha's I could find recently, were XL and too big for me.
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chavez Ladies Man


Joined: 22 Sep 2003 Posts: 27375 City: Roseville
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Posted: Aug 21, 2006 1:50 pm Post subject: |
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My CD PS01 are 5 years old and still good as new.
PS: they are super comfy.
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gene3x Addict


Joined: 31 Aug 2004 Posts: 759 City: Dallas
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Posted: Aug 21, 2006 2:08 pm Post subject: |
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chavez, What are those? You seeem to be a veteran and I assume ride pretty hard right? Never had a problem in 5 years? That is what I am looking for. How big are you?
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SEATTLE Criminal

Joined: 18 Dec 2003 Posts: 92 City: Seattle
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Posted: Aug 21, 2006 2:59 pm Post subject: |
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1 - Wiley's Tri Axis are indestructable.
2 - The LF Ultra Sucks last forever if you like a loose fit above the ankle.
3 - Hyperlite High Backs are built extremely well.
My favorite bindings are a pair of 2002 Belmonts that I put 2000 original Belmont overlays on. I've ridden in them year round for five seasons now, and their still the most comfortable binding I've ever worn.
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Partyb Wakeboarder.Commie

Joined: 12 Jan 2003 Posts: 1810 City: Lantana, FL
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Posted: Aug 21, 2006 5:42 pm Post subject: |
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I would agree that the lf ultra suctions seem to last forever although I have never owned them, but all my friends who have them have had them forever and never have problems.
I disagree with the highback comments, I had those and they ripped all the time.
I now have Hyperlite Parks, the older version from like 3 years ago. Not one problem yet and I ride a lot and all year round living in S. Fl
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Liquidmx Addict

Joined: 26 Jul 2004 Posts: 755 City: San Jose
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Posted: Aug 21, 2006 6:19 pm Post subject: |
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I second the Collective developments, Those things are SUPER high quality IMHO.
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chavez Ladies Man


Joined: 22 Sep 2003 Posts: 27375 City: Roseville
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Posted: Aug 22, 2006 7:54 am Post subject: |
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| gene3x wrote: | | chavez, What are those? You seeem to be a veteran and I assume ride pretty hard right? Never had a problem in 5 years? That is what I am looking for. How big are you? |
No you have that backwards
| Quote: | | I assume ride pretty hard right? |
Should read:
| Quote: | | I assume you hardly ride, right? |
Seriously though, Collective Development was the absolute sh*t. You can thank them for ALL of the bindings we have today. You can also call out LF for stealing a good portion of their designs in 04.
Anyhow, that is water under the bridge. They made really really really high quality equipment, with great design, comfort, and hold.
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gene3x Addict


Joined: 31 Aug 2004 Posts: 759 City: Dallas
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Posted: Aug 22, 2006 8:24 am Post subject: |
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And the PS01 is the best of their lot?
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chavez Ladies Man


Joined: 22 Sep 2003 Posts: 27375 City: Roseville
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Posted: Aug 22, 2006 8:38 am Post subject: |
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gene3x, all of them are good.
PS01, PS02, FS01, FS02, AS01, AS02, WS01, WS02.
Good stuff.
Check them out at WW.Com. You will have to dig to find some though as they stopped producing in 04. http://www.wakeworld.com/boots/getcompany.asp?companyid=364
Alternatively, Concrete is made using similar process (IIRC they were the MFG behind CD). Ask itch about those.
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Liquidmx Addict

Joined: 26 Jul 2004 Posts: 755 City: San Jose
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Posted: Aug 22, 2006 8:45 am Post subject: |
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Look on ebay, the bindings pop up often on there. I search for Collective development bindings. Usually under 150 bucks.
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chavez Ladies Man


Joined: 22 Sep 2003 Posts: 27375 City: Roseville
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Posted: Aug 22, 2006 9:07 am Post subject: |
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Liquidmx, I just ran that search and got 3 auction hits and about 10 store hits.
gene3x, what size are you? I have a new Medium set in the box at home. Color is funky (black and yellow with blue), but they are spankin new.
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Posted: Aug 22, 2006 9:21 am Post subject: |
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gene3x, all of them are good.
PS01, PS02, FS01, FS02, AS01, AS02, WS01, WS02.
Good stuff.
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I'll second that. I love my PS01s. The ONLY problems with them is that they take forever to get into and the mounting screws can come loose after a day of hard riding. I've been abusing mine for 3 seasons now and they're still good as new. You can find them on ebay for super cheap these days, since they're discontinued and not many people know about them. I've seen them auction off for like $30 (I paid $160 on a "closeout" deal 3 years ago).
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gene3x Addict


Joined: 31 Aug 2004 Posts: 759 City: Dallas
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Posted: Aug 24, 2006 6:19 am Post subject: |
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I am a L or XL I wear a size 11.5 and am right inbetween sizes in the LF bindings so I chose the Large and stretch them out.
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Posted: Aug 24, 2006 6:25 am Post subject: |
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Looks like I would need an XL in the CD bindings. Do you guys know if this is true? It says Large fits size 8-10. I have a long narrow foot so sometimes can even get in an 11 shoe but my toe is always too long. They hang over the edge in the Large Transits.
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chavez Ladies Man


Joined: 22 Sep 2003 Posts: 27375 City: Roseville
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Posted: Aug 24, 2006 7:34 am Post subject: |
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gene3x, I am a L in CD, and I wear a 9. I think it is safe to say you are an XL.
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holdsworth PityDaFool Who Posts This Much

Joined: 01 May 2003 Posts: 5333 City: Knoxville
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Posted: Aug 24, 2006 7:46 am Post subject: |
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they have a website (collective development): www.cdwake.com
hasn't been updated since 04, but it still lists their stuff.
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BGeezy125 Newbie

Joined: 23 Aug 2006 Posts: 12 City: Toledo
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Posted: Aug 24, 2006 8:03 am Post subject: |
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| I don't see why everyone thinks the ultras are so durable. I ripped a pair in less than one summer.
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