need help with raley height (video)

pbfoot · Criminal Joined: 28 Jun 2005 Posts: 67 City: Grand Rapids

i'm having a hard time getting enough height to land the hs air raley. if i go for height i usually end up putting too much weight on my back foot and i end up twisted in the air. i've landed a few but they haven't been really high. most of the time this is what happens. sorry about the sun its hard to see when i lay it out =/; i guess i chose a bad time to try it.

http://www2.gvsu.edu/~vereshmj/help.html

Thanks,
Michael

kyle · Guest

pbfoot, you are taking a really nice even edge into the wake which is the most important thing to do. As for your height, you simply did not wait for your pop, and then in the words of the infamous Rhett Whatley, if you want to go real big on any raley based trick, scoop the wake. You litterally want to perform a scooping motion at the base of the wake with your board. Whenever i am learning any sort of glide, i will also put the rope out an extra 5 feet to give me the longest possible edging time, but the main thing here is scooping the wake and waiting a slight bit longer for your pop. Good technique though, you will being doing huge raleys in no time, and it is such an important base to have down because once you start doing glides, you will be thankful for a perfect raley.

pbfoot · Criminal Joined: 28 Jun 2005 Posts: 67 City: Grand Rapids

kyle what do you mean by scooping? i have no clue how to scoop and when to scoop haha.

kyle · Guest

this is going to be dificult to explain but i am going to try my best. When doing a raley, you need to make the transition of a very strong hard edge to the complete opposite positioning at the peak of the wake in a very short time. When you are coming up to the wake, the scoop is making that transition where at the bottom of the wake you push your legs in almost a scooping motion to your other edge and use the wake as almost a ramp. you push your legs through the wake as if you were going to scoop out some ice cream with a spoon. its almost something you need to see in person but i learned it from rhett who is one of the better junior mens riders on the pro tour. it probably doubled my height of my raleys and glides. Basically you aren't just charging the wake and hitting it, you are charging the wake and using technique to really pop and scoop yourself into the air. even on tricks like nuclear glides and indy glides, i do kind of a reverse scoop to really give me my pop.

kyle · Guest

if you watch your video, you kind of just go through the wake where when you are getting to the top of the wake you really need to drive your legs through and make that pop

kyle · Guest

and your roll to revert is really nice by the way, thats definately an r2r that ca be turned into a mobe

pbfoot · Criminal Joined: 28 Jun 2005 Posts: 67 City: Grand Rapids

rhett is awesome, im sure of that. he helped me learn the r2r and i've seen some of his clips. i'll see if i get a chance to go again b/c its getting cold up here in MI. i'll work on my scooping Smile

. thanks for the advice i appreciate it!

hyperlite22 · Outlaw Joined: 16 Oct 2005 Posts: 134 City: denton

so did you get it down

pbfoot · Criminal Joined: 28 Jun 2005 Posts: 67 City: Grand Rapids

nah i havent had a chance to go; i had 5 midterms last week and a regatta this past weekend and halloween is next weekend and i live almost 2 hours from my lake so i dont think ill get to go for the rest of the year ;/.

hyperlite22 · Outlaw Joined: 16 Oct 2005 Posts: 134 City: denton

oh that stinks,where is grand rapids?btw what college do you go to

pbfoot · Criminal Joined: 28 Jun 2005 Posts: 67 City: Grand Rapids

grand rapids is on the west side of michigan. i go to grand valley state university which is only division 2 but i like it. im in graduate school there...on my second year (physical therapy). where do u live and ride?

rhettb · Criminal Joined: 03 Jun 2003 Posts: 69 City: Raleigh

Thats a different Rhett, Im nowhere near as good as Whatley - but thanks anyway

ballywho · Wakeboarder.Commie Joined: 05 Feb 2005 Posts: 1725

You sail? or is that some other type of regatta?
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pbfoot · Criminal Joined: 28 Jun 2005 Posts: 67 City: Grand Rapids

well rhett ur still a really good rider, accept the complement :p. and i dont sail, its crew (rowing in one of those really long boats).

hyperlite22 · Outlaw Joined: 16 Oct 2005 Posts: 134 City: denton

pbfoot, i live in denton,texas bout 30 minutes north of dallas and i ride at ray roberts,and lake lewisville sometimes but mainly ray roberts...btw how hot do the summers get up thier in michigan

pbfoot · Criminal Joined: 28 Jun 2005 Posts: 67 City: Grand Rapids

hot for us is in the 90s, its rare we have a day above 100. we only have a few months out of the year to ride b/c it gets cold so fast and it takes forever for the ice to melt off of the lakes. i'd say we have about 5 months of riding in a year give or take a month if you're a die hard.

hyperlite22 · Outlaw Joined: 16 Oct 2005 Posts: 134 City: denton

that kinda sucks,im not a fan of cold weather...like right now here its like 40's 50's and i hate it

future gator · Newbie Joined: 14 Sep 2005 Posts: 23

sweet

HO-rider · Outlaw Joined: 08 Nov 2005 Posts: 102 City: MeXiCo!!

i really dont mind.. i ride in hot water jaja but i think i will ride anywhere i can!!!

HO-rider · Outlaw Joined: 08 Nov 2005 Posts: 102 City: MeXiCo!!

weather

sequitur · Newbie Joined: 05 May 2005 Posts: 26

Catch This Wake · Addict Joined: 03 Feb 2005 Posts: 590 City: Miami

pbfoot, I must say I am big fan of your board largely inpart that, that is what I ride too. 04 Byerly 137 w00t w00t

rhettb · Criminal Joined: 03 Jun 2003 Posts: 69 City: Raleigh

I was wondering the same thing - I can land raleys, hoochies, 911s, etc but every now and then, there is this one that is gigantic, the one that makes wakeboarding worth every penny and time spent on the water - I imagine thats when I accidentally use the technique you are speaking of - elaboration would be great

pbfoot · Criminal Joined: 28 Jun 2005 Posts: 67 City: Grand Rapids

yea i agree, when you get a chance you should elaborate. i wish the lake wasn't frozen or I would go. just getting massive air, whether or not i land it, is definately worth every second!

this was one of my first attempts at a raley, i obviously didnt know what i was doing but it was the most pop i have had off of my wake.

i wish i could sky them out like you guys Sad